Pride_Of_The_Midlands Posted 28 February 2012 Posted 28 February 2012 900 appearances for Manchester United is an amazing achievement. But 64 caps for Wales is shockingly low. For a player who had a 16 year international career he should have at least 100 caps, maybe even 150. I get the feeling that he was never really committed to playing for his country. After his international debut in 1991 against Germany, Giggs did not attend a friendly international until some nine years later, after which he missed a further 18 consecutive friendly games. Is Sir Alex to blame?
The Doctor Posted 28 February 2012 Posted 28 February 2012 I await someone saying that he wasn't committed to playing for Wales because he knew he should have picked England instead. Anyway, I wouldn't say Fergie is necessarily to blame without knowing what went on behind the scenes with Giggs at that time, I think maybe he just picked club over country, so skipped those matches that were somewhat trivial (friendlies).
Guest MattP Posted 28 February 2012 Posted 28 February 2012 The Giggs England thing is a myth, he never qualified to play for us.
Babylon Posted 28 February 2012 Posted 28 February 2012 The Giggs England thing is a myth, he never qualified to play for us. Can't you play for a team if you have been resident there for a certain amount of time and not played for another team?
Trav Le Bleu Posted 28 February 2012 Posted 28 February 2012 My guess is that Wales don't play as many games as teams such as England, Germany, France, Italy, etc since they don't often qualify for major tournament finals. I'd be interested to compare how many games England have played in the past 20 years, compared to Wales, but I'd guess that it's probably 20+.
Guest MattP Posted 28 February 2012 Posted 28 February 2012 Can't you play for a team if you have been resident there for a certain amount of time and not played for another team? That rule came in long after Giggs had to make his choice.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 28 February 2012 Posted 28 February 2012 Just done some quick research and over the past 5 years England have played 48 games and Wales 41 so it's not inconceivable that over 16 years England have played 20 matches more than Wales and Giggs would have 80+ caps - comparable to Englands more veteran players.
Webbo Posted 28 February 2012 Posted 28 February 2012 Should've chosen to play for England. He probably wishes he could have.
Pride_Of_The_Midlands Posted 28 February 2012 Author Posted 28 February 2012 Should've chosen to play for England. He's not English. He's Welsh.
Pride_Of_The_Midlands Posted 28 February 2012 Author Posted 28 February 2012 Just done some quick research and over the past 5 years England have played 48 games and Wales 41 so it's not inconceivable that over 16 years England have played 20 matches more than Wales and Giggs would have 80+ caps - comparable to Englands more veteran players. Gareth Bale is only 22 and he already has 33 caps for Wales.
Pride_Of_The_Midlands Posted 28 February 2012 Author Posted 28 February 2012 Can't you play for a team if you have been resident there for a certain amount of time and not played for another team? England and Wales are in the same country. If you move from France to England you can get a British passport after a certain amount of time. If you move from Wales to England you don't get a new passport.
ScouseFox Posted 28 February 2012 Posted 28 February 2012 I was joking like. But I'm almost certain if he wanted he could've found an English relative and played for us. But he didn't, clearly, he loved playing for Wales...
21st Century Fox Posted 28 February 2012 Posted 28 February 2012 It's not like he would have earned any more medals playing for England
AyewJoking Posted 28 February 2012 Posted 28 February 2012 If Giggs had been devoted to Wales, would he still be playing for Utd today, 900 apps strong? No
Corky Posted 28 February 2012 Posted 28 February 2012 He should've had more than that, definitely nearer to a century.
Bugg Posted 28 February 2012 Posted 28 February 2012 Giggs should have played for Sierra Leone instead.
Narborough_fox Posted 28 February 2012 Posted 28 February 2012 Giggs had 2 options to play for... Wales or Sierra Leone. He chose rightly to be honest,
whitlock Posted 28 February 2012 Posted 28 February 2012 Have wales even had that many games in Giggs's career? They're never in any championships!
Houdini Logic Posted 28 February 2012 Posted 28 February 2012 To be fair he never really was one for making a good decision, eh Rhodri?
Guest MattP Posted 28 February 2012 Posted 28 February 2012 It's not like he would have earned any more medals playing for England Behave. That Le Tournoi medal would have looked beautiful inbetween his champions league and PFA trophies.
Phube Posted 28 February 2012 Posted 28 February 2012 Bellamy (1998-2011) = 68caps Giggs (1991-2007) = 64 caps In 3 more years of games, he's played 4 less! Shameful!
Guesty Posted 28 February 2012 Posted 28 February 2012 He was always pulling out in the 90s/00s. Kept getting bad cases of skyvalitus. They were really bad though, I can sort of understand why Man U and himself wouldn't wanna risk getting injured in a pointless friendly or a worthless qualifier. The fact that they bring his name up as a future manager of Wales is a bit of a joke though. Rather have a shit commited player than a brilliant player who showed up when he could be arsed.
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