Guest Col city fan Posted 7 June 2012 Posted 7 June 2012 How about if he doesn't even rate him particularly anyway? Do we keep a player he doesn't rate, just because some other idiot paid well over the odds and gave them a stupid contract. You hit the nail on the head methinks..
LCFC_FAN_1995 Posted 7 June 2012 Posted 7 June 2012 If that was the best out of Beckford and SSL then we had better get rid quickly. Well Beckford didn't want to even chase the ball under Sven if it wasn't where he wanted it!
Guest bss9401 Posted 7 June 2012 Posted 7 June 2012 For Mills we would have to accept 1-2 mill tops because he will have to take a pay cut to go anywhere. The rest will supplement that wage otherwise he may as well watch from the stands while being paid a fortune.
Bluetintedspecs Posted 7 June 2012 Posted 7 June 2012 You hit the nail on the head methinks.. Exactly.... NP is having to clear out after Svens 'loads a money in sweety shop' transfer policy
dannythefox Posted 7 June 2012 Posted 7 June 2012 Exactly.... NP is having to clear out after Svens 'loads a money in sweety shop' transfer policy Agree. Sven has a lot to answer for spending money like its going out of fasion!
escos Posted 7 June 2012 Posted 7 June 2012 Well Beckford didn't want to even chase the ball under Sven if it wasn't where he wanted it! He is a ****ing striker, a finisher! It's not his job to chase the ****ing ball! It's his job to receive the ball and put it in the net!! It's not his fault the service to him was conference standard!!
Mark_w Posted 7 June 2012 Posted 7 June 2012 He is a ****ing striker, a finisher! It's not his job to chase the ****ing ball! It's his job to receive the ball and put it in the net!! It's not his fault the service to him was conference standard!! It was good enough for Nugent.
escos Posted 7 June 2012 Posted 7 June 2012 It was good enough for Nugent. Completely different type of player! And he hardly scored a hatful more than Beckford did he. When will people step back and realise the whole team did not play good enough last season and stop blaming individual players.
Mark_w Posted 7 June 2012 Posted 7 June 2012 Completely different type of player! I thought you said the only thing a striker needed to do is score goals? Nugent did that, Beckford not so much. I realise the whole team wasn't good enough last season, so don't you think replacing a few of them should be first on the agenda, otherwise we'll end up in the same position as last year.
MGLCFC Posted 7 June 2012 Posted 7 June 2012 Beckford and Nugent are different players and I would say Beckford is more of a natural goal scorer, whereas Nugent more of a channel player. Both are capable of scoring 20+ goals in a season. Beckford was only 2 goals behind Nugent and played fewer games. With the correct service, and this comes from a better midfield, including wingers, both will do well next season. Alas, I don't think Beckford will be here.
LCFC_FAN_1995 Posted 7 June 2012 Posted 7 June 2012 He is a ****ing striker, a finisher! It's not his job to chase the ****ing ball! It's his job to receive the ball and put it in the net!! It's not his fault the service to him was conference standard!! Oh so if the ball was 1 or 2 yards away then it's fine for him to stop and not bother chasing or even trying? Now under Pearson some games he chased the ball, put the defence under pressure and sometimes won corners, throw ins and got the ball.
escos Posted 7 June 2012 Posted 7 June 2012 I thought you said the only thing a striker needed to do is score goals? Nugent did that, Beckford not so much. I realise the whole team wasn't good enough last season, so don't you think replacing a few of them should be first on the agenda, otherwise we'll end up in the same position as last year. I have never once said we don't need new players I am simply stating that in my opinion people need to stop blaming so called 'non fan favourites' and look at everyone including Sven. And Becford a different type of player to Nugent so he doesn't chase the ball I didn't mean that all strikers should just stand there but players in the Beckford mould do. Yes it can be frustrating for fans but if you watch him closely you can see him always anticipating the defender missing the ball or waiting for that million dollar pass in to space, the bad news is it never came.
escos Posted 7 June 2012 Posted 7 June 2012 Oh so if the ball was 1 or 2 yards away then it's fine for him to stop and not bother chasing or even trying? Now under Pearson some games he chased the ball, put the defence under pressure and sometimes won corners, throw ins and got the ball. So surely that should tell you it was the managers fault not the players.
LCFC_FAN_1995 Posted 7 June 2012 Posted 7 June 2012 Beckford was only 2 goals behind Nugent and played fewer games. In the league Beckford only scored 9 goals, Nugent scored 15 in the league. Beckford simply wants to go back to Leeds. So surely that should tell you it was the managers fault not the players. How can you blame the manager for a player who's not bothering to chase the ball?
escos Posted 7 June 2012 Posted 7 June 2012 And whilst I'm on the subject of going against the popular opinion, I think mills should stay and would not have looked half as bad if he wasn't having to cover for a piss poor full back all the time!
MGLCFC Posted 7 June 2012 Posted 7 June 2012 So scoring goals in cup competitions don't count as goals for leicester - 4 of these goals were against opposition in our league or a league higher. By the way, Leeds won't pay his wages, even with investment.
Mark_w Posted 7 June 2012 Posted 7 June 2012 Beckford was only 2 goals behind Nugent and played fewer games. If you count cup games against a League Two side and a Forest side that had to field a CM in defence then yes he did. Bit hypocritical though when lots of people claim that Fryatt was no good even though he scored the number he did against League One opposition, because 'It was only in League One', but when it suites them they feel it's fine to have a go at people excluding Beckford's cup goals against even worse opposition. Funny that. If the service was good enough for Nugent it was good enough for Beckford, I'm not saying he can't come good for us, but you're deluded if you think he had a good enough season this time around, or if you think he has done anything to prove himself better than Fryatt or Waghorn. I have never once said we don't need new players I am simply stating that in my opinion people need to stop blaming so called 'non fan favourites' I rate Gallagher and Wellens. And Becford a different type of player to Nugent so he doesn't chase the ball I didn't mean that all strikers should just stand there but players in the Beckford mould do. Yes it can be frustrating for fans but if you watch him closely you can see him always anticipating the defender missing the ball or waiting for that million dollar pass in to space, the bad news is it never came. So, Nugent works hard and scores goals, Beckford doesn't work hard and doesn't score goals. Yet Beckford absolutley deserves no critisism, because he's 'A differeny type of player'.
LCFC_FAN_1995 Posted 7 June 2012 Posted 7 June 2012 So scoring goals in cup competitions don't count as goals for leicester - 4 of these goals were against opposition in our league or a league higher. By the way, Leeds won't pay his wages, even with investment. League goals are more important in my opinion. Yes 4 goals, 3 against a shocking Forest side, 1 tap in against Chelsea and also 2 against a League 2 team. Also I think leeds can afford 30k wages max, he only came here for the because it took all day to get him on deadline day, that says to me that he wanted more money, whereas his heart and passion is in Leeds, also how do you know that they can't afford him?
MGLCFC Posted 7 June 2012 Posted 7 June 2012 I didn't say he had a good season - I pointed out that his scoring record wasn't disimilar to Nugent and he played less games. So there is no delusion there, just facts. What I am saying, with better service, Beckford and Nugent will both score 20+ goals next season. Whether we get the right sort of players in to provide the service is another matter.
MGLCFC Posted 7 June 2012 Posted 7 June 2012 Leeds will not pay more than £15000 - they are trying to offer Snodgrass this in a 'bumper deal to keep him at the club' according to Leeds fans
Mark_w Posted 7 June 2012 Posted 7 June 2012 I didn't say he had a good season - I pointed out that his scoring record wasn't disimilar to Nugent and he played less games. So there is no delusion there, just facts. What I am saying, with better service, Beckford and Nugent will both score 20+ goals next season. Whether we get the right sort of players in to provide the service is another matter. Unless the better service is Ronaldo, Xavi, Iniesta and Messi, that isn't going to happen.
MGLCFC Posted 7 June 2012 Posted 7 June 2012 Well this is true if the midfield is Wellens, King, Dyer and Gallagher. However Marshall, Danns, Drinkwater and James may be a little more promising (and potentially Stewart) as an alternative to one of the central midfielders.
Dan Posted 8 June 2012 Posted 8 June 2012 I'd have possibly considered saying give Beckford a go myself, I do agree with the right service he will get goals, but I simply can't be fvcked with us running the risk of once again another poor season from someone on Premier League wages, who doesn't fit the manager's style of play, who doesn't even want to be here. That is why Beckford has to go. I don't get how you can expect a successful player for this club when that player doesn't even want to be one here himself.
ronnup Posted 8 June 2012 Posted 8 June 2012 These threads a turning into drivel. Can't we have a special thread for discussing current players?
Babylon Posted 8 June 2012 Posted 8 June 2012 He is a ****ing striker, a finisher! It's not his job to chase the ****ing ball! It's his job to receive the ball and put it in the net!! It's not his fault the service to him was conference standard!! But it is his fault that his control is conference standard, if he'd been able to control the ball we might have been able to link up much better. As it was it would hit his feet and bounce off in a random direction. He also missed a shit load of sitters, so his finishing wasn't great either.
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