Guest MattP Posted 16 January 2013 Posted 16 January 2013 If you think horses in tescos are bad, you want to see teh camel toes in Primark. On a serious note horsemeat is lovely. I might even try some Tesco value burgers now.
ozleicester Posted 17 January 2013 Author Posted 17 January 2013 Are you bothered about the veggie burgers containing uniquorn?
ozleicester Posted 25 January 2013 Author Posted 25 January 2013 mmm Horse meat, anti-inflammatory drugs and now campylobacter A BBC investigation has revealed cases of campylobacter are increasing, with about 500,000 people a year infected. FSA research suggests two-thirds of shop-bought chicken is contaminated with campylobacter http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21029389
Jaspa Posted 25 January 2013 Posted 25 January 2013 mmm Horse meat, anti-inflammatory drugs and now campylobacter A BBC investigation has revealed cases of campylobacter are increasing, with about 500,000 people a year infected. FSA research suggests two-thirds of shop-bought chicken is contaminated with campylobacter http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21029389 Didnt a virus in cucumbers and sprouts kill quite alot of people in 2011 And Ive never had campylobacter
ozleicester Posted 25 January 2013 Author Posted 25 January 2013 Didnt a virus in cucumbers and sprouts kill quite alot of people in 2011 And Ive never had campylobacter Fair point...wash your sprouts kids
The Doctor Posted 25 January 2013 Posted 25 January 2013 Or alternatively - slaughter your own chickens. Now then, in recognition of the day: Oatmeal & sheep entrails
Webbo Posted 25 January 2013 Posted 25 January 2013 Or alternatively - slaughter your own chickens. Now then, in recognition of the day: Oatmeal & sheep entrails Poor, innocent ,wild haggis roaming free around the heather moors of Scotland, murdered for your enjoyment. I hope you're proud of yourself.
The Doctor Posted 25 January 2013 Posted 25 January 2013 Poor, innocent ,wild haggis roaming free around the heather moors of Scotland, murdered for your enjoyment. I hope you're proud of yourself. I am actually - it in a burger with whisky sauce and onion rings is delicious.
Guest MattP Posted 25 January 2013 Posted 25 January 2013 Forgot it was burns night. Think I'll have steak balmoral tomorrow. not had it for a while.
Mark_w Posted 25 January 2013 Posted 25 January 2013 I can never work out if this is the animal rights thread or MattP's food diary.
Saxondale Posted 25 January 2013 Posted 25 January 2013 I had haggis last night, completely unrelated to Burns Night. Add Baxter's Royal Game Soup as a sauce.
Guest MattP Posted 25 January 2013 Posted 25 January 2013 Ozleicester. Whats you opinion on people like me who see pigs, cows as fodder and fair game for food... but on the other hand think dogs, horses gorillas etc are fantastic, care passionately about them and that people who mistreat them should have ice picks stuck through their balls... weird?
ozleicester Posted 26 January 2013 Author Posted 26 January 2013 Ozleicester. Whats you opinion on people like me who see pigs, cows as fodder and fair game for food... but on the other hand think dogs, horses gorillas etc are fantastic, care passionately about them and that people who mistreat them should have ice picks stuck through their balls... weird? Weird to say the least, it intrigues me and has been something ive tried to understand throughout this topic. It is really less about what i think... what do you think? I assume at some point you must imagine that pig, sheep, cow etc as a living creature, no different to the puppy, kitten or the (virtually human) chimp. How do you rationalise in your head that eating the flesh of a living, breathing, thinking creature? But to answer your question. in my mind you are hypocrites...but your not alone, we all are.
Stand UP... Posted 26 January 2013 Posted 26 January 2013 Eating meat is fine as long as there bought up from a baby through to adult age and treated with respect. To roam free, be comfortable and be looked after and when there time comes it comes quickly. There's to many aspects to cover hear with different situations of what type of animal and different cultures beliefs etc so it's all down to individual beliefs. However to torture a animal to death for our sake is plain wrong. I can't stand people's response to animal cruelty with there reply being you eat pigs cows lambs etc why is it wrong to eat dog, monkeys etc. It's wrong because farmed animals most of the time are raised by farmers who actually care for them and ensure there death is quick where as animals you can get close to or admire our treated like hell. Dogs in Asia our left in cages with sharp food tins cut into there snouts to disable there barking with there front and back legs folded and broken to enable them to be tied until somebody strolls along to pick them for dinner. Bears are left with a drip draining there fat from there belly for medicine and many other species tortured for ridiculous beliefs and money.
ozleicester Posted 26 January 2013 Author Posted 26 January 2013 Eating meat is fine as long as there bought up from a baby through to adult age and treated with respect. To roam free, be comfortable and be looked after and when there time comes it comes quickly. There's to many aspects to cover hear with different situations of what type of animal and different cultures beliefs etc so it's all down to individual beliefs. However to torture a animal to death for our sake is plain wrong. I can't stand people's response to animal cruelty with there reply being you eat pigs cows lambs etc why is it wrong to eat dog, monkeys etc. It's wrong because farmed animals most of the time are raised by farmers who actually care for them and ensure there death is quick where as animals you can get close to or admire our treated like hell. Dogs in Asia our left in cages with sharp food tins cut into there snouts to disable there barking with there front and back legs folded and broken to enable them to be tied until somebody strolls along to pick them for dinner. Bears are left with a drip draining there fat from there belly for medicine and many other species tortured for ridiculous beliefs and money. Well.. (imo)..eating meat isnt fine, Whether they are allowed to wander free and happy and are cared for and loved is all irrelevant when they are killed (however "humanely") for our pleasure. What you say about dogs, bears and all of the horrendous cruelty throughout the world (including the UK) is indeed even worse.. but the final cruelty is killing something without need.
Stand UP... Posted 26 January 2013 Posted 26 January 2013 I'm glad you read my post clearly. I'm the biggest lover of animals you'll find unfortunately I don't take that next step in becoming vegetarian. I make myself feel better by thinking it's okay because they lived there life happily and if was not killed humanely then it would of died of disease or old age. I know that's not the case most of the time but still.
Stand UP... Posted 26 January 2013 Posted 26 January 2013 Ps how can you defer an animal which has lived a happy life so to speak to one that has been treated like hell? How can you say it's not okay for either when one has been treated well and the other has not
ozleicester Posted 26 January 2013 Author Posted 26 January 2013 Ps how can you defer an animal which has lived a happy life so to speak to one that has been treated like hell? How can you say it's not okay for either when one has been treated well and the other has not Im not sure i quite understand your comment... but if i do. I am agreeing, that being cruel (eg your mention of bile bears etc) is evil and bad. I am also saying that killing an animal for pleasure (eg food, leather etc) is also bad. If given the option, i would end the cruelty to animals whether it be evil torture or simple killing for pleasure. so, yes, torture then killing is more cruel than just killing, but killing is still cruel. hope that makes sense.
ozleicester Posted 26 January 2013 Author Posted 26 January 2013 Fair enough respect your comments. Cheers - ditto
Carl the Llama Posted 28 January 2013 Posted 28 January 2013 Genuine question here: Where do you stand, Oz, on pet food? Do you have pets of your own (and if so, what do you feed them)? I mean, it takes a bit of a leap of imagination to believe that cats would naturally have lived off the cows/pigs/sheep that are often included in cat food, or that a budgie would somehow get its talons on a cuttlefish etc. With dogs not so much - they are derived from wolves, famous for hunting in packs to take down larger prey, after all. But yeah, what's your take on the subject?
Manwell Pablo Posted 28 January 2013 Posted 28 January 2013 Genuine question here: Where do you stand, Oz, on pet food? Do you have pets of your own (and if so, what do you feed them)? I mean, it takes a bit of a leap of imagination to believe that cats would naturally have lived off the cows/pigs/sheep that are often included in cat food, or that a budgie would somehow get its talons on a cuttlefish etc. With dogs not so much - they are derived from wolves, famous for hunting in packs to take down larger prey, after all. But yeah, what's your take on the subject? He has a cat. He locks it up and doesn't let it out which is just about one of the cruelist things you can do to a cat (hypocrit) He feeds it mainly vegeterian diet with some meat. He is not saying we should end our reliance on meat striaght away but evolve blah blah blah waah waah wahh.....zzzzzzzzzzzzzz There you go Oz saved you 10 minutes.
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