Jace Posted 8 August 2012 Share Posted 8 August 2012 Where did Vicki Vixen go? Is she still around? Sven signed her up for the City womens team on a £25,000 a week contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester_Numan Posted 8 August 2012 Share Posted 8 August 2012 All this talk of wingers. Surely the only time you need an honest to goodness out and out touchline hugging winger is if your playing the prehistoric flat 442. Pretty much any other formation can utilise wide midfielders/attackers. We never played a flat 442 under Sven so its not actually that surprising that we didnt have many wingers on the books (although we did have too many CMs) so I dont neccessarily buy all this needing wingers to balance out the squad. Therefore the complete lack of any alternatives when his preferred formations didn't work. We have a midfield now that can play in different formations without being square pegs in round holes apart from having no specialist DM. That's why it's better balanced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetintedspecs Posted 8 August 2012 Share Posted 8 August 2012 That'll be the piss in your pants! (obviously I am being gently rude there as to full blown offensive) My rather crudely made point is the hypocrisy in some of Nigel's claims, I didn't disagree with him that the squad would maybe benefit from some additional width, I just found it a bit rich that he did the same thing but at no stage bemoaned an unbalanced squad. Tena pads work a treat.....I suggest you get some anal ones (gentle retort) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 8 August 2012 Share Posted 8 August 2012 Sven signed her up for the City womens team on a £25,000 a week contract She only plays well on the TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace Posted 8 August 2012 Share Posted 8 August 2012 She only plays well on the TV. Or cup games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevelcfc Posted 8 August 2012 Share Posted 8 August 2012 Sven signed her up for the City womens team on a £25,000 a week contract All she does is score .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 8 August 2012 Share Posted 8 August 2012 All she does is score .... Her names Vicky Vixen and she scores when she wants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_w Posted 8 August 2012 Share Posted 8 August 2012 Her names Vicky Vixen and she scores when she wants Yeah, but she's too expensive for my taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubbins Posted 8 August 2012 Share Posted 8 August 2012 Therefore the complete lack of any alternatives when his preferred formations didn't work. We have a midfield now that can play in different formations without being square pegs in round holes apart from having no specialist DM. That's why it's better balanced The lack of a decent DM is a far more serious problem in the modern game than lacking wingers as shown by our centere mids getting dominated so often last season, particularly when there was only 2 of them. You only need true wingers in a 442 but you need a DM no matter what formation you play. You might even say it leaves the midfield unbalanced! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfox Posted 8 August 2012 Share Posted 8 August 2012 God knows how a thread like this went to a discussion about Vicky Vixen but anyway... Still about the same numbers, but we have just cut down the number of central midfielders which was always going to happen anyway, still quite a large number we have especially when Wellens comes back October time. But the wingers are more are balanced, two choices each side now, and they are all players capable of turning a game on it's head which is a good thing. Two younger players along with two more experienced players in Dyer and Gally which is also good to have. Still think we could do with that tall, athletic defensive midfielder but you can hardly cut anybody out now from central midfield, if we was to get someone it would be unlikely for someone like King to even make the bench and we need him for goals this season. Happy with the wingers, but like many others have said there are still concerns about central midfield, not because of numbers but because of the quality of the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BNET Posted 8 August 2012 Share Posted 8 August 2012 Pearson's unbalanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitchandro Posted 8 August 2012 Share Posted 8 August 2012 All this talk of wingers. Surely the only time you need an honest to goodness out and out touchline hugging winger is if your playing the prehistoric flat 442. Pretty much any other formation can utilise wide midfielders/attackers. We never played a flat 442 under Sven so its not actually that surprising that we didnt have many wingers on the books (although we did have too many CMs) so I dont neccessarily buy all this needing wingers to balance out the squad. Sven me old china what have you been doing since you left!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester_Numan Posted 8 August 2012 Share Posted 8 August 2012 The lack of a decent DM is a far more serious problem in the modern game than lacking wingers as shown by our centere mids getting dominated so often last season, particularly when there was only 2 of them. You only need true wingers in a 442 but you need a DM no matter what formation you play. You might even say it leaves the midfield unbalanced! Are they true wingers or wide players? But they are still able to play as wide attackers or wing backs as well as wingers, the likes of Marshall & Gallagher can play behind the front 2 in a 4-3-1-2 the point being there are more alternatives and better balance in general in midfield. I do agree about needing a DM in the squad though, always have. The problem with Sven's midfield was that in playing centre midfielders wide they tended to naturally drift inside creating a very narrow midfield and after the 4-3-3 and diamond didn't work all he could do was change personnel which didn't solve the problem, it just gave him the same problem with different players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chap84 Posted 8 August 2012 Share Posted 8 August 2012 Drinkwater because Fernandes threw his toys out the pram, Johnson was never fit, Abe was leaving imminently and he didn't think Oakley and Moussa were any longer good enough. He also brought in Marshall improving the balance in the squad by bringing in a winger. Sorry but I need you to clarify this for me again 'cause I'm a bit thick, is this thread about the number of wide men we had two years ago or is it about the balance of the squad now compared to when Nigel took over as the first post suggests... I love how nobody is allowed to discuss or air their criticism of Pearson on here! Its a forum for gods sake that's what it's for. There are some people on here that won't have a bad word said unless it suits there opinion or the latest bandwagon they have jumped on. Will some of these people/kids be as quick to post if Pearsons gamble fails? Probably...... To say that they seen the problems before the season started! Just discuss it without being so f..king cocky... My opinion of what pearson has done regarding the wingers is he's done a good job so far in getting them in but we need to see if there any good first! There is a lot of youth and inexperience but that's Pearsons gamble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_w Posted 8 August 2012 Share Posted 8 August 2012 I love how nobody is allowed to discuss or air their criticism of Pearson on here! Its a forum for gods sake that's what it's for. There are some people on here that won't have a bad word said unless it suits there opinion or the latest bandwagon they have jumped on. Will some of these people/kids be as quick to post if Pearsons gamble fails? Probably...... To say that they seen the problems before the season started! Just discuss it without being so f..king cocky... My opinion of what pearson has done regarding the wingers is he's done a good job so far in getting them in but we need to see if there any good first! There is a lot of youth and inexperience but that's Pearsons gamble. I asked a genuine question about what he was trying to get at countless times and he avoided answering it, I just wanted to be clear about what his point was because it seemed to me that he had quickly tried to change what the debate was about. All I did was respond to his opinion with my own, yes it's a forum but that doesn't mean everyones opinion has to go unchallenged, that would be ****ing boring. It's not just jumping on the bandwagon, I've been a big fan of Nigel ever since he came in first time around, he was one of the first managers in a long time to create a Leicester side that we could be proud of, that said I don't jump to defend him at every oppertunity but in this case Fleckneymike didn't have a leg to stand on. I'm a fan of Wellens and Gallagher, while I think Beckford needs to be moved on, can hardly be accused of jumping on the bandwagon. My opinion will not change as a result of this season unless we are bad at the level we were under Sousa because I genuinley rate Pearson as a manager. It seems kids aren't allowed to voice an opposing opinion (on a forum for god sake) without some boring old fart jumping down their neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BNET Posted 9 August 2012 Share Posted 9 August 2012 Could you really see Pearson managing a Premiership side ? Could you see Wellens and Gallagher playing regularly in a side anywhere near the top of the Championship ? I've nailed my colours to the mast regarding Pearson, l think he is a terrible manager and whats more his way of playing the game is as boring and ineffective given the players and money he's had available as anything since Taylor. His stats are rubbish as a manager if you take out our jaunt into division three and the following season. MOF got rid of him because he knew he was limited as a manager and l agree with him. To take him back was just crazy and ill advised. Why pick a man who as had no real success in a job if you plan on gaining promotion to the Premiership. l hope he gets us promoted, he really should, given the backing he's had, but to watch us in the top flight with him pulling the strings could be one horrendous experience as a city fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 9 August 2012 Share Posted 9 August 2012 I love how nobody is allowed to discuss or air their criticism of Pearson on here! Its a forum for gods sake that's what it's for. There are some people on here that won't have a bad word said unless it suits there opinion or the latest bandwagon they have jumped on. Will some of these people/kids be as quick to post if Pearsons gamble fails? Probably...... To say that they seen the problems before the season started! Just discuss it without being so f..king cocky... My opinion of what pearson has done regarding the wingers is he's done a good job so far in getting them in but we need to see if there any good first! There is a lot of youth and inexperience but that's Pearsons gamble. Errr excuse me, were his posts deleted? Was he banned? No. He was allowed to make his point and still is, just as me or anyone else is free to point out his argument (whatever the hell it was) is massively flawed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxoffderby Posted 9 August 2012 Share Posted 9 August 2012 Could you really see Pearson managing a Premiership side ? Could you see Wellens and Gallagher playing regularly in a side anywhere near the top of the Championship ? I've nailed my colours to the mast regarding Pearson, l think he is a terrible manager and whats more his way of playing the game is as boring and ineffective given the players and money he's had available as anything since Taylor. His stats are rubbish as a manager if you take out our jaunt into division three and the following season. MOF got rid of him because he knew he was limited as a manager and l agree with him. To take him back was just crazy and ill advised. Why pick a man who as had no real success in a job if you plan on gaining promotion to the Premiership. l hope he gets us promoted, he really should, given the backing he's had, but to watch us in the top flight with him pulling the strings could be one horrendous experience as a city fan. Not This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 9 August 2012 Share Posted 9 August 2012 Could you really see Pearson managing a Premiership side ? Could you see Wellens and Gallagher playing regularly in a side anywhere near the top of the Championship ? I've nailed my colours to the mast regarding Pearson, l think he is a terrible manager and whats more his way of playing the game is as boring and ineffective given the players and money he's had available as anything since Taylor. His stats are rubbish as a manager if you take out our jaunt into division three and the following season. MOF got rid of him because he knew he was limited as a manager and l agree with him. To take him back was just crazy and ill advised. Why pick a man who as had no real success in a job if you plan on gaining promotion to the Premiership. l hope he gets us promoted, he really should, given the backing he's had, but to watch us in the top flight with him pulling the strings could be one horrendous experience as a city fan. Could you see Bendan Rogers managing Liverpool after getting Sacked at Reading? Could you have see Holloway being one after getting sacked here? Just because he hasn't got a team promoted doesn't mean he won't at some point. Whether its here or somewhere else. I've already seen them play for a team near the top.... us. Terrible manager? Hardly. He has his limitations but calling him that just makes you look bitter an twisted. The money he's had? He spent £3m in Jan and the team was in play off form post Christmas. He's been selling before he can buy (around 20 players gone), so let's not make out he's been given a Sven style blank cheque book. Not sure what this has to do with the balance of the team anyway. Just looks like another Bentleys Roof misery spreading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxoffderby Posted 9 August 2012 Share Posted 9 August 2012 Could you see Bendan Rogers managing Liverpool after getting Sacked at Reading? Could you have see Holloway being one after getting sacked here? Just because he hasn't got a team promoted doesn't mean he won't at some point. Whether its here or somewhere else. I've already seen them play for a team near the top.... us. Terrible manager? Hardly. He has his limitations but calling him that just makes you look bitter an twisted. The money he's had? He spent £3m in Jan and the team was in play off form post Christmas. He's been selling before he can buy (around 20 players gone), so let's not make out he's been given a Sven style empty cheque book. Not sure what this has to do with the balance of the team anyway. Just looks like another Bentleys Roof misery spreading. All of This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LcFc_Smiv Posted 9 August 2012 Share Posted 9 August 2012 All she does is score .... But only in cup games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indierich06 Posted 9 August 2012 Share Posted 9 August 2012 So take away his two most successful seasons as a manager and his managerial stats don't look as good? What the hell do you expect?! If you're going to make cretinous arguments like that you can **** off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Fatboyslow_ Posted 9 August 2012 Share Posted 9 August 2012 Did he forget yuki Abe? And Fat Boy Johnson and Frenades or how ever you spell it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 9 August 2012 Share Posted 9 August 2012 Could you see Bendan Rogers managing Liverpool after getting Sacked at Reading? Could you have see Holloway being one after getting sacked here? Just because he hasn't got a team promoted doesn't mean he won't at some point. Whether its here or somewhere else. I've already seen them play for a team near the top.... us. Terrible manager? Hardly. He has his limitations but calling him that just makes you look bitter an twisted. The money he's had? He spent £3m in Jan and the team was in play off form post Christmas. He's been selling before he can buy (around 20 players gone), so let's not make out he's been given a Sven style empty cheque book. Not sure what this has to do with the balance of the team anyway. Just looks like another Bentleys Roof misery spreading. Good post Babs.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyFromLE Posted 9 August 2012 Share Posted 9 August 2012 Could you really see Pearson managing a Premiership side ? Could you see Wellens and Gallagher playing regularly in a side anywhere near the top of the Championship ? I've nailed my colours to the mast regarding Pearson, l think he is a terrible manager and whats more his way of playing the game is as boring and ineffective given the players and money he's had available as anything since Taylor. His stats are rubbish as a manager if you take out our jaunt into division three and the following season. MOF got rid of him because he knew he was limited as a manager and l agree with him. To take him back was just crazy and ill advised. Why pick a man who as had no real success in a job if you plan on gaining promotion to the Premiership. l hope he gets us promoted, he really should, given the backing he's had, but to watch us in the top flight with him pulling the strings could be one horrendous experience as a city fan. Fair enough, however. I think it would be largely unfair, to ask Pearson to get us promoted, then look for a new manager. The club needs consistency and structure - another managerial change AFTER promotion would be an absolute death wish. Pearson is clever and I personally trust him more than I did Sven. Pearson's had less than 50% of the budget Sven had - and so far has dealt with transfers well and bought in some real talent e.g - Vardy, Knockaer and Marshall in January (who I am most looking forward to seeing his career develop ) these signings would have NEVER happened under Sven I feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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