Charlton Post-match

[AKCJ]

Did Powell take a penalty against Conrad?

Would have been amazing if he did.

[fleckneymike]

I do think he's better coming on for the last 20 to use his pace to cause problems against already tired defenders. I would give Knockaert a start now, see what he can do.

I still don't understand why people advocate him coming on late in the game. If he cannot cross he cannot cross. It doesn't matter what time you introduce him, he is incapable of crossing the bloody ball so he serves virtually no purpose what so ever.

[fleckneymike]

People really need to go to games before passing judgement !!!

Not long back in.

1st 20 mins I thought we dominated, but if u don't score when your on top you get punished. Which we did.

Second half was all city from start to finish . But if you don't score your one on ones.....

nugent and dyer

and a vardy header straight at keeper. You lose .

We played well ,worked hard !!

Overall chances missed cost us . We take them ? we would have won. Or got a least a point.

Move on to Blackburn sat . Knocky really needs to start .

I would say that is a fairly accurate summary.

[Libertine Dream]

Fair play to Charlton, exactly like us when we came up, not the most talented but the hardest working and effective football. They might well sneak the playoffs but they could also fade like Brighton did last year. I wish we had Chrissy P as coach still, they were solid at the back, unlike ourselves and Morrison was a class act tonight. Kermogant played target man well and Wriggt Phillips ran the defence ragged.

First 10 minutes we dominated, Dyer should have scored, Vardy could have scored but BWP did score in a rare attack for them and it chaanged the half. We made it too easy for them to score the first and after that appeared to give up on the half. The defending was calmitous at times, both goals were easily preventable. NP wasnt happy first half, the work rate wasn't there, the slickness wasn't there and the passing was crap. 2nd half we were unstoppable.

The substitutions changed the game, King was all over the pitch and worked well with James, and whilst Nugent didnt do much, he played a vital role in the goal. Knockaert was excellent when he came on, skilful and worked for the cause, must sure start on Saturday. We just disnt take our chances, on another day it could have been 5-2, well probably more 5-5. Given our 2nd half performance, I have no concerns about the rest of the season, but again if we put too many more 1st halves like that in then we'll struggle.

2nd half really was slick, quick and promotion football, not many teams will live with us like that and in fact if we hadnt been against such a well organised, solid side then we'd have had bags full of chances, which fills me with great hope.

Now onto Saturday, really cant afford to lose, in fact we really could do with winning it.

[ithuriel]

beckford, if you read this, score some goals please. fankyou very much.

If he is anything like last season, you'll have a long wait

[Grey Fox]

I still don't understand why people advocate him coming on late in the game. If he cannot cross he cannot cross. It doesn't matter what time you introduce him, he is incapable of crossing the bloody ball so he serves virtually no purpose what so ever.

Because his pace stretches the opposition defence and creates the space for other to do damage.

I think maybe we can agree to disagree here.

[fleckneymike]

Because his pace stretches the opposition defence and creates the space for other to do damage.

I think maybe we can agree to disagree here.

But his pace doesn't create space for others to do damage, it merely creates space for him to mishit a cross or screw a shot wide.

[Grey Fox]

But his pace doesn't create space for others to do damage, it merely creates space for him to mishit a cross or screw a shot wide.

He reminds me a bit of Forest Gump. We get the ball to him and all shout run Lloyd run! Then we need signs in the crowd that say stop, pass, when he gets near the box. He doesn't need to be good at crossing or shooting really, just okay would do. He should just learn to play a simple final ball.

It's a bit like Usain Bolt commented about what his coach said to him before the 100m final. He said don't worry about the start, if you get a bad start you can make it up, just focus on what you are good at, the end. Lloyd should just focus on what he can do, that is run, then just play a simple pass at the end. Let someone else cross it or finish.

[Daggers]

So, hands up who saw the game they're so busy commenting about...

[Lamby]

Me

[fleckneymike]

I can't speak for anyone else but I had a lovely time at the Valley.

[Grey Fox]

So, hands up who saw the game they're so busy commenting about...

I have not said anything specific about tonight's game. My comments are general and based on my experience from Saturday and before. For instance I have seen Dyer many times, I therefore feel I am able to defend him against someone who was at one game I wasn't.

[HEGGSY]

Just got home. Long journey Not much to say about the game that's not already been said.

Funniest moment of the night - A group of, what seemed to be, 11 year olds swearing and throwing stones at the Fox Travel and Supporters coaches" Propa Nawty.

[Thracian]

Frustrating as it was to see us waste such seemingly simple chances City's attacking tonight was as committed and exciting as I've seen it for a long time.

After a fast and promising start when we strung together some picture-book moves City were stunned by two quick goals - the second something of a shambles from a throw in - but second half we layed seige with increasing ferocity and did everything except force an equaliser.

City fans rightly clapped their heroes off cos they played their part in what was a gripping game of often high-quality football - a game crammed full of incident, inventiveness and drama.

How we failed to equalise left many of us stunned. But some of the football that gave us the chances offered every encouragement for the rest of the season cos this looks a far better side than we've had for a long time.

I still thought we handicapped ourselves by not playing our best team because we still creaked in places, particularly James and Marshall in midfield and Beckford up front.

But, while Charlton provided a far sterner test than Posh there were times when our passing, speed and movement tore the home defence to shreds. I just wish Kingy-the-calm could have been on the end of all our chances cos we might have scored four or five from just the more simple ones.

But the main offenders, Dyer, Nugent and Vardy, at least made things happen and not just those gift-horse chances so many have referred to. All three should be given credit for that. Dyer was involved almost constantly yet was still full of sufficient energy at the end to miss his easiest chance from Knockaert's deft through ball.

Others were hardly involved at all and we can't afford that to continue.

[Babylon]

So, hands up who saw the game they're so busy commenting about...

Well considering most of mine were saying "stop slating x player after two games" and "you weren't even there" that's a bit unfair no?

[Babylon]

Credit where credits due Pearson sorted us out for the second half but he has to realise that you don't always have to play the same team after a win. It was quite clear that James isn't upto the required standard yet to play an away game in a midfield two but he went ahead and picked him anyway.

If we want to win back to back it's time to make the correct decisions before reaching half time and having a mountain to climb. It happened so many times last season.

Oh hindsight is such a wonderful thing. Remind everyone of your reaction to King coming on?

[indierich06]

I wouldn't.

Play King against Murphy and the other geezer (forgot his bloody name) and he'll be overrun.

Danns in for me I reckon.

You keep saying this, but he's played twice, had two good games and scored two goals. Head and shoulders above our other centre midfielders so far.

[indierich06]

Frustrating as it was to see us waste such seemingly simple chances City's attacking tonight was as committed and exciting as I've seen it for a long time.

After a fast and promising start when we strung together some picture-book moves City were stunned by two quick goals - the second something of a shambles from a throw in - but second half we layed seige with increasing ferocity and did everything except force an equaliser.

City fans rightly clapped their heroes off cos they played their part in what was a gripping game of often high-quality football - a game crammed full of incident, inventiveness and drama.

How we failed to equalise left many of us stunned. But some of the football that gave us the chances offered every encouragement for the rest of the season cos this looks a far better side than we've had for a long time.

I still thought we handicapped ourselves by not playing our best team because we still creaked in places, particularly James and Marshall in midfield and Beckford up front.

But, while Charlton provided a far sterner test than Posh there were times when our passing, speed and movement tore the home defence to shreds. I just wish Kingy-the-calm could have been on the end of all our chances cos we might have scored four or five from just the more simple ones.

But the main offenders, Dyer, Nugent and Vardy, at least made things happen and not just those gift-horse chances so many have referred to. All three should be given credit for that. Dyer was involved almost constantly yet was still full of sufficient energy at the end to miss his easiest chance from Knockaert's deft through ball.

Others were hardly involved at all and we can't afford that to continue.

Absolutely spot on. Can't remember the last time I saw such a one-sided second half.

[Babylon]

Thank god for those who actually went!

[Guest ttfn]

But his pace doesn't create space for others to do damage, it merely creates space for him to mishit a cross or screw a shot wide.

Are you talking about Beckford or Dyer?

[Callabinho]

If we had a full strength back four out could the goals have been avoided? I haven't been able to get down yet this season so I can't comment at all!

[Reynard Bleu]

Only heard the RL commentary on the game and this is not always a fair reflection but it sounded like we paid the price for a couple of lapses at the back and despite improving as the game progressed we failed to convert at least two guilt edged chances. Easy to say same old Leicester, but its a bit early to lose faith or panic. We are light on options at the back at this moment in time, hopefully a fit Zak Whitbread and SSL will at least put some pressure on the others to concentrate on every ball in to the box.

Disappointment rather than dispair at this stage.

[Guest Col city fan]

So, hands up who saw the game they're so busy commenting about...

What point are you trying to make Daggers?

The thread was contributed to by over 80 different posters, many of whom posted more than once.

Are you suggesting that all of those people were at the game, or should have been there?

You yourself contributed 4 times during the thread... as far as I could see. Were you there?

Babs appears to be by far the biggest contributor, with 18 posts that I could see.

So what?

Personally, I was listening to it on the radio, so prefixed some of my posts with 'it sounds like'...cos it 'sounded like' on the radio. And most of my posts were about not getting on the players backs, cos it was 'only one game'.

[SE7]

Not gonna come on and gloat about the result, obviously we are extremely happy with the 3 points but thought you might like to hear the game from a Charlton persepctive.

First off, very cliche, but that was a game of two halves. First half i thought we were lively and your back 4 couldnt handle BWP and Yann. We kept Dyer & Marshall quiet. Im not just saying this as im a Charlton fan, but Solly & Wiggins are among the two best full backs in the league.

Second half was a tale of you wasting clear cut chances, especially Vardys. I dont think you should be too hard on him though, his pace and movement is well above the level he has been playing at for Fleetwood. Stick with him. King looks a player as well.

Plus points for you would be that going forward you will create a lot of chances, and on another night you could/should of had a couple more. Not that we didnt have our own chances and deserved to get beat, but you will win alot more than you will lose. Also impressed with the guy midfielder that came on for you, deserves a start by the look of things.

You seem to lack a bit of leadership in midfield, someone that can mix it up. You have some proper footballers, all comfortable on the ball and your movement is top notch, but there was an 'engine' missing from you play in the first half and we took advantage of it.

For us, its seems that the 4 years previous to last season have finally been erased. We were served up dire football from Dowie/Pardew/Parkinson but the feel good factor is back with Powell in charge. We are on a roll and this group of young players dont seem too keen on letting him down. They can play a bit as well.

looking forward to our trip in feb, also a tuesday night, altho i cant see us bringing 1600 like you did. good turnout and in good voice last night.

[paulsherwood1]

I was at the game. We dominated the first 20 mins and were caught with their first shot of the game. We weren't in it for the rest of the half, and could easily have gone in 3 down. Beckfords runs were good, but his control, awareness and passing were poor. For some reason we were just lumping long balls to vardy all of the first half. Marshall had 3 men on him at all times and simply couldn't get a touch.

Second half we controlled it. However, I was fed up with Morgan's distribution... The classic hoof down the middle EVERY time. And every time it gave possession away. Our midfield was much stronger second half. But same old Leicester Dyer missed a sitter, nugent missed when easier to score and vardy missed his sitter in the last minute.

It's all well and good people saying we are only two games in, but if we want promotion we have to win these games! For me nothing has changed vs last season. Say what you like about the second half performance but we still got no points! It's points that get u promoted not performances.