ibbosuk Posted 8 September 2012 Share Posted 8 September 2012 A clown would be paying someone Premiership wages of probably in excess of £25,000/week just to sit on the bench, who lets face is it never going to do the business for us Unless anyone thinks that doing 'the business' is scoring about 1 in 7 or 8, whilst simultaneously not really helping the team out Nugent hasn't scored for at least 10 games....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cc_star Posted 8 September 2012 Share Posted 8 September 2012 Nugent hasn't scored for at least 10 games....... Yep, as I said "whilst simultaneously not really helping the team out" Nuge does generally help the team, playing other players in, links up well with winger or midfield, holds the ball up, always available to receive it... generally he's there or thereabouts without the ball going in, it will come for him. Beckford on the other hand if he's not scoring, he's losing possession with the touch of a donkey, not linking up with anyone and as far as most people can see actually hinders rather than helps... Case in point, his woeful Bambi-esque performance in his cameo the other day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyBoy Posted 8 September 2012 Share Posted 8 September 2012 This.... Do people really judge strikers on what they see in the warm up? if strikers are gonna do the business on the pitch, you expect them to be able to have a decent shot:goal ratio in warm up. Its like saying he can Run before walking hes not good enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyBoy Posted 8 September 2012 Share Posted 8 September 2012 in this division you cant rely on tap ins, its the hard efforts, wrong footers that get the 3 points, not an U7's training session where they walk it into an empty goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyBoy Posted 8 September 2012 Share Posted 8 September 2012 that why Pearson would be a Clown to let Beckford go, a talent can clinically finish. Give him until the end of the season. if he still doesnt cut it, boot him out and get 2 mil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_w Posted 8 September 2012 Share Posted 8 September 2012 if strikers are gonna do the business on the pitch, you expect them to be able to have a decent shot:goal ratio in warm up. Its like saying he can Run before walking hes not good enough That's in this division you cant rely on tap ins, its the hard efforts, wrong footers that get the 3 points, not an U7's training session where they walk it into an empty goal ****ing that why Pearson would be a Clown to let Beckford go, a talent can clinically finish. Give him until the end of the season. if he still doesnt cut it, boot him out and get 2 mil stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Phil Posted 8 September 2012 Share Posted 8 September 2012 that why Pearson would be a Clown to let Beckford go, a talent can clinically finish. Give him until the end of the season. if he still doesnt cut it, boot him out and get 2 mil We won't be getting 2mill if he hasn't cut it by the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyBoy Posted 8 September 2012 Share Posted 8 September 2012 That's ****ing stupid. ok........ so you would give Waghorn a chance at starting?? Wow, glad you aren't the manager Suppose you think Dyer is clinical infront of goal too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_w Posted 8 September 2012 Share Posted 8 September 2012 ok........ so you would give Waghorn a chance at starting?? Wow, glad you aren't the manager Suppose you think Dyer is clinical infront of goal too... I think judging a player as awful because of their shooting in the warm up is ridiculous and makes you come across as being incredibly narrow minded. I don't think Beckford is a natural finisher from what I've seen of him. (On the pitch, not in the warm up like). I think if Beckford has another poor season making only a 400k loss on him would be incredible, there isn't a chance that would happen, especially considering his wages, and find people who say things like, 'Give him a chance and if he does poorly sell him for x amount of money' to be incredibly annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 8 September 2012 Share Posted 8 September 2012 ok........ so you would give Waghorn a chance at starting?? Wow, glad you aren't the manager Suppose you think Dyer is clinical infront of goal too... I'm afraid the continued claim that Beckford is a 'clinical finisher' or whatever is simply not backed up by the statistics. I've put up tables of Championships goal scorers, assists etc etc and can't be bothered to do it again. As far as I can see its STILL all hope with Jermaine. Not reality. Unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyBoy Posted 8 September 2012 Share Posted 8 September 2012 I think judging a player as awful because of their shooting in the warm up is ridiculous and makes you come across as being incredibly narrow minded. I don't think Beckford is a natural finisher from what I've seen of him. (On the pitch, not in the warm up like). I think if Beckford has another poor season making only a 400k loss on him would be incredible, there isn't a chance that would happen, especially considering his wages, and find people who say things like, 'Give him a chance and if he does poorly sell him for x amount of money' to be incredibly annoying. ' to suggest that the shooting in the warm up should be overlooked is narrow minded in my opinion. I don't know any top strikers that consistently have a bad warm up, I agree we would make a loss but i guess thats a gamble we were prepared to take. There is still time yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_w Posted 8 September 2012 Share Posted 8 September 2012 to suggest that the shooting in the warm up should be overlooked is narrow minded in my opinion. I despair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyBoy Posted 8 September 2012 Share Posted 8 September 2012 I'm afraid the continued claim that Beckford is a 'clinical finisher' or whatever is simply not backed up by the statistics. I've put up tables of Championships goal scorers, assists etc etc and can't be bothered to do it again. As far as I can see its STILL all hope with Jermaine. Not reality. Unfortunately. He did alright at his spell at Everton in the Prem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayday Posted 8 September 2012 Share Posted 8 September 2012 Am i missing something as i just don't get this Beckford is quality and a finisher...besides the Forest game last season when has he ever stood out? David Nugent may be struggling for goals but you cannot fault his work rate as for Beckford he offers nothing to the side, the quicker Pearson can get shot of him the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_w Posted 8 September 2012 Share Posted 8 September 2012 He did alright at his spell at Everton in the Prem... Not really, apparently he was shite in the warm up, and let's face it that's what really counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 8 September 2012 Share Posted 8 September 2012 Not really, apparently he was shite in the warm up, and let's face it that's what really counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry - LCFC Posted 8 September 2012 Share Posted 8 September 2012 I think the warm up does give a slight indication of a player, for example, I'd be a little alarmed if all our strikers were continuously slicing the ball twenty yards wide each time. But the warm up obviously doesn't actually prove anything - just like friendlies really, means nothing, you just have to perform during the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 8 September 2012 Share Posted 8 September 2012 I think the warm up does give a slight indication of a player, for example, I'd be a little alarmed if all our strikers were continuously slicing the ball twenty yards wide each time. But the warm up obviously doesn't actually prove anything - just like friendlies really, means nothing, you just have to perform during the match. I usually watch the warm ups and, no word of a lie, one of those usually on target is Lloyd Dyer. So I think warm ups actually mean shit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry - LCFC Posted 8 September 2012 Share Posted 8 September 2012 I usually watch the warm ups and, no word of a lie, one of those usually on target is Lloyd Dyer. So I think warm ups actually mean shit! I've noticed that too, he seems to take it a bit more seriously than the others - he is that sort of person after all. Nugent seems more interested in having a laugh than warming up, as do a few others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 8 September 2012 Share Posted 8 September 2012 I've noticed that too, he seems to take it a bit more seriously than the others - he is that sort of person after all. Nugent seems more interested in having a laugh than warming up, as do a few others I've noticed that too.. Nugent's a bit of a cheeky chappy. Better not say the name of one of the players that usually misses... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
body102 Posted 8 September 2012 Share Posted 8 September 2012 Not about Beckford , but my son plays for Aylestone Park as a keeper , I warm him up before games and he was absolutely shocking last week , I just said to him 'best to get the mistakes out of the way before the game' . And it worked he played an absolute blinder . He is a good keeper must be cos he is playing for City elite development a week on tuesday and Florist are also interested . In fairness a warm up means sod all , it does not make a player crap because he is poor in the warm up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted 8 September 2012 Share Posted 8 September 2012 I've noticed that too.. Nugent's a bit of a cheeky chappy. Better not say the name of one of the players that usually misses... he doesn't miss,he always hits Row Z ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesta Legend Posted 8 September 2012 Share Posted 8 September 2012 I usually watch the warm ups and, no word of a lie, one of those usually on target is Lloyd Dyer. So I think warm ups actually mean shit! :: Exactly... People can't be serious saying this matters....oh they are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 8 September 2012 Share Posted 8 September 2012 :: Exactly... People can't be serious saying this matters....oh they are I think some actually are.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannythefox Posted 8 September 2012 Share Posted 8 September 2012 Beckford was a very good player for Leeds and did ok at Everton but he's done next to nothing at Leicester and to be fair I thought he'd be ok but he's been well below parr. Let him go out on loan then sell him he will not be missed because he's done nothing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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