Wolves away post match

[shen]

Also people don't feel Danns warrants a chance... well today Drinkwater was dreadfull.

He was first half, he improved massively second half (bar his shooting).

That's not true today, may have been at the other 2 but definitely not today.

Even if you were judging it on just the second half, we didn't create many chances, we had so much of the ball but created very little. Wolves were crap, they were decent defensively, good at setpieces (though our defending made it easy) and very physical. But we had no answer to them. They sat back and invited pressure. We didn't overrun, they let us have the ball and we barely created anything in the scheme of things. We still played poorly in the second, it's just we were so unbelieveably bad and Wolves were more positive in that half, that's the only reason the second half encouraged some people.

But for me, the second half wasn't good at all. We had a lot of the ball, but still played very badly.

After their second goal Wolves created one double chance (SEB through ball to Doyle) and one big chance for Doyle near the end. In the same space of time, Nugent had three decent chances (first half shot, second half header x2), Marshall had a good long shot first half and spurned a great ball by Knocky second half, Waggy hit the post and mistimed a header while Konch scored. How can you say we created little? And we played the ball so quickly and directly second half, we had them running in rings. They didn't 'let us have the ball'. We played it out well from the back, James and Drinky, particularly, suddenly realising how to pass a ball again. They had no answer to Knockaert who was creating openings left, right and centre with his runs and immaculate passing. I'm as frustrated as anyone, but never in a million years would I say we played 'very badly' when we looked the best side for most of the game.

[Albert]

First half defending was woeful....second half we were by far the better team and looked a real decent outfit creating chance after chance but yet again finishing was poor.

You could see that we were creating chances and in need of a clinical finisher so I can't get my head around Waghorn coming on??? All he needed to do was be cool and side foot it past the keeper but as always he tries to burst the net. I know he has his critics but I would bet my house that Beckford would of finished that chance.

How Knockhaert isn't starting is beyond me....i dont buy into all the "hes bedding in" bollocks....you don't see Chelsea starting Hazard on the bench!! Surely he's got to be in the first 11 against Burnley. I would also bring Ledge/Whitbread in for De Laet and move Moore to RB. This would add much needed experience and organisation to the back 4 and hopefully iron out these costly errors.

A lot of pressure on the Burnley game now....not that I would agree with it but if we lose it could be curtains for Nigel especially if certain managers that are being touted around are interested in the job

Keep the faith!

[cc_star]

First poor performance over a whole match of the league season.

Konchesky an absolute liability as he has been in each game this season, yes he thrashed a corker in but he just plain & simple didnt do his job today.

Moore made uncharacteristic errors, don't know if its just an off day or if playing with a cart-horse to his left is unsettling.

Short on guile after King went.

Didn't roll for Vardy today, deservedly subbed.

Nugent makes poor choices

We didn't unleash Dyers pace

Marshalls crossing aimless today

Drinkwater was off

Basically everyone was off until Knockaert changed things.

Hope King isn't properly injured we need his guile & vision.

Roll on Wednesday

[The Bear]

I can't believe how ridiculous people are who call in....Conrad Logan back in goal and Pearson sacked eh!!!

You should hear some of the cretins that call in Radio WM to talk about Wolves. Most of them slate the players performances yet only listen to the games on the radio.

[Foxhateram]

Knockaert - What positive impact did Dyer have today then? Because whilst the defenders may have 'shit bricks', they didn't actually have to deal with a thing in the first half. So I couldn't care less if their whole back 4 had to change shorts at half time, Dyer did fvck all. Knockaert, on the other hand, actually created 2 great chances, Waggy's which hit the post, and the one two with Marshall where his first touch cost him scoring a goal. So tell me, Dyer might look really scary because he's so quick, but lets hear what he actually does.

Nugent - It's not just he hasn't scored, it's not just he's wasted good chances, it's he's really struggled to get into the game. For most of last season, he wasn't standing around whinging to the ref, he was looking for the ball and making things happen himself. Where is that now? He is a good player, but he's playing shit.

Moore - was dogshit, end of. I'm not overly bothered if a centre back isn't Franz Beckenbauer, but FFS he should be able to pass it to his own players, if he's playing straight to their strikers we've got no fvcking chance. And even if that wasn't an issue, his positional sense is poor and he's just not a very good defender. Similar to Mills.

If you thought we were good today you need your head checked. We were extremely poor for most of it.

Dyer moves defenders, oh you know what I give up trying to point out what happens off the ball at games because it seems that most people are too blind to see the obvious, I am wasting my breath.

You can talk down Nuge as much as you want and yes I agree he hasn't been great so far but he is a better option than anything else we have right now. Beckford has been useless, he was even useless against a really poor Torqauy side.

Not going to go into the Moore argument the lad has not directly cost us goals so far but I can name another defender who always escapes criticism who has.

As for today's performance overall first half should have been better but how anyone can dis the second half performance where we dominated possession throughout and created chance after chance I do not know. Our strike force just aren't playing to there best right now but what is Nige supposed to do? He has set up a team that creates chances that is all a manager can do, we just need someone to actually finish them. Whether that is via Nuge, Vardy, Beckford, Waggy, Futacs whoever we just need someone to step up, I can garuntee that once Nuge gets that goal then he will fly.

[tylesta]

I can't believe how ridiculous people are who call in....Conrad Logan back in goal and Pearson sacked eh!!!

LOGAN

[tylesta]

Yes because that is what I meant! Well done, give this guy a medal.

don't get cocky with me!! you think dyer is the answer to all our problems as you think the full backs he comes up against bricks it

[foxsake123]

Babylon, if I say 'pearson out' this week will I get another ban?

[tylesta]

Dyer moves defenders, oh you know what I give up trying to point out what happens off the ball at games because it seems that most people are too blind to see the obvious, I am wasting my breath.

You can talk down Nuge as much as you want and yes I agree he hasn't been great so far but he is a better option than anything else we have right now. Beckford has been useless, he was even useless against a really poor Torqauy side.

Not going to go into the Moore argument the lad has not directly cost us goals so far but I can name another defender who always escapes criticism who has.

As for today's performance overall first half should have been better but how anyone can dis the second half performance where we dominated possession throughout and created chance after chance I do not know. Our strike force just aren't playing to there best right now but what is Nige supposed to do? He has set up a team that creates chances that is all a manager can do, we just need someone to actually finish them. Whether that is via Nuge, Vardy, Beckford, Waggy, Futacs whoever we just need someone to step up, I can garuntee that once Nuge gets that goal then he will fly.

and knocky didn't you really are a tool!!! knocky had them shitting bricks (as you would say)

[James18]

no you cannot blame pearson, no one can. he made a huge mistake bringing waghorn on, we was putting cross after cross into the box yet we have a 6f 5 guy sitting there but he thinks waghorn will change the game!!

I admit that was a poor change, but apart from that he had his tactics right.

[5waller5]

You should hear some of the cretins that call in Radio WM to talk about Wolves. Most of them slate the players performances yet only listen to the games on the radio.

.... one of our most prolific posters on here only listens to some on the radio and yet has managed a post every few seconds it seems!!! They are everywhere!!

[kingfox]

This frustration is hilarious.

Sack them all...good one you idiot.

It's still early doors, Wolves was always going to be tough, on paper they are one of the favourites to go up, they have fantastic players all over the field, and sooner or later they were going to get a win they needed, it's just a shame it was against us.

We was woeful first half, but second half we were much better we were all over them towards the end of the match, but yet again luck wasn't on our side.

Just wait till Burnley instead of losing patience again, at home we have looked excellent lets see what Burnley brings, two home games next both very winnable which means six points which will get us back into the top six mix if we win them both.

Changes are needed after today, but it wasn't as bad as people were making out people are really concentrating on the first half instead of the second, second was very positive in my opinion, especially after our goal.

Yes we could do with loan signings, and yes we could do with starting Knockaert, but Liam Moore has been one of our best players at home this season, so lay off the lad a little bit because he is a talent.

Keep the Faith, and fook the depressing frustrated haters.

[Jace]

Vardy selling programmes next week hopefully

[Number 6]

Not in terms of where we end up in the table, no. But in terms of Nigel Pearson's position? Absolutely. We have what look to be two winnable home matches coming up. If we struggle in those games I think the owners will be making plans for a replacement. That's just the way the game is, particularly when a club has owners who have invested a lot of money in the hope of a quick return on their gamble.

I fear you may be right on that front. I hope, even if the next results aren't perfect, that we don't change manager so soon. League will be tight right the way through, no-one will run away with it. Fingers crossed for 6 points at home then!

[Kitchandro]

I think we need midfielders with some balls and determination. I know King is beloved by most on here but the way he played early on in this game is far too common for him. He should be a Premiership player but he lets himself down because he's too weak and doesn't do what he's good at enough.Like today, got the ball in some decent positions - got shrugged off it, or opted for the pussy pass instead of striding forward more and shooting. He could take games by the scruff of the nec with his talent, but he doesn't do it enough.

It wouldn't be such an issue if Drinkwater wasn't the same, he's also too weak and I'm rarely impressed when he tries to play the ball forward. He's usually good at passing it sidewards, retaining possession, but in games like today it's not enough. We can't just think 'lets give it to Marshall because he's the only one who can do anything' everytime we get the ball. Even if Marshall had played well today, it would have been irrelevant, sending good crosses in wouldn't have got us anymore goals than we did today. We need to find an alternative route to goal, through the middle for example. With out lack of creativity, physical strength and confidence to make something happen in the middle we are going to struggle.

People say 'lets play 3 in the middle away from home' but you could have 8 players in the middle - if they don't complement the balance of the team they won't do anything.

[tylesta]

Vardy selling programmes next week hopefully

i heard he is signing for allexton and new parks

[Foxhateram]

don't get cocky with me!! you think dyer is the answer to all our problems as you think the full backs he comes up against bricks it

Haha good one, please go and find where I said Dyer was the answer to all our problems and don't quote where I said he is effective at bringing defenders out of position, that is a true fact but he is by all means not the 'answer' as you put it. The answer is to get one of our strikers in form.

The way we play leaves us exposed at the back so we therefore need to finish our chances. Once this happens we will end up winning games like that 4-2 rather than losing 2-1. You can't play open possession and nice link up play and be perfect at the back, if we had that we would be playing at the top of the premier league.

[Guest ttfn]

I can remember barely any. Certainly not 3 mins worth.

Fvck me, what an odd life you must lead to celebrate your team's victory by coming onto another team's message board and bickering about added time that didn't matter in the end.

For what it's worth I thought 5 was too much, but there was an incredible amount of timewasting going on (not that we wouldn't have done the same).

Congratulations on a deserved win and good luck for the rest of the season.

[I am Rod Hull]

Roast dinner, eases the pain

[tylesta]

Haha good one, please go and find where I said Dyer was the answer to all our problems and don't quote where I said he is effective at bringing defenders out of position, that is a true fact but he is by all means not the 'answer' as you put it. The answer is to get one of our strikers in form.

The way we play leaves us exposed at the back so we therefore need to finish our chances. Once this happens we will end up winning games like that 4-2 rather than losing 2-1. You can't play open possession and nice link up play and be perfect at the back, if we had that we would be playing at the top of the premier league.

No just saying but after todays performance fair do's he only played 1st half and knocky second who was the most effective? wasn't dyer for sure! he may have defenders on the back foot game after game but when he beats his man what happens sweet fa. aint all about beating your man there is a lot to do after beating the man and knocky did that today!! he needs to start next game fact

[tylesta]

Fvck me, what an odd life you must lead to celebrate your team's victory by coming onto another team's message board and bickering about added time that didn't matter in the end.

For what it's worth I thought 5 was too much, but there was an incredible amount of timewasting going on (not that we wouldn't have done the same).

Congratulations on a deserved win and good luck for the rest of the season.

after??? he's been here all day, think he's a closet leicester fan

[Guest ttfn]

He should be a Premiership player but he lets himself down because he's too weak and doesn't do what he's good at enough.Like today, got the ball in some decent positions - got shrugged off it, or opted for the pussy pass instead of striding forward more and shooting.

He could take games by the scruff of the nec with his talent, but he doesn't do it enough.

King was up against Karl Henry, a brutal thug, and Doumbia, who looked about 6'4 and 16 stone.

The correct way for players like King and Drinkwater to "impose" themselves in that situation is through moving the opposition about with short passes so they can't exert their physical domination.

What you seem to want is the equivalent of putting two chess players in a ring with two heavyweight boxers and suggesting they settle their differences with a punch up.

[Kitchandro]

He was first half, he improved massively second half (bar his shooting).

After their second goal Wolves created one double chance (SEB through ball to Doyle) and one big chance for Doyle near the end. In the same space of time, Nugent had three decent chances (first half shot, second half header x2), Marshall had a good long shot first half and spurned a great ball by Knocky second half, Waggy hit the post and mistimed a header while Konch scored. How can you say we created little? And we played the ball so quickly and directly second half, we had them running in rings. They didn't 'let us have the ball'. We played it out well from the back, James and Drinky, particularly, suddenly realising how to pass a ball again. They had no answer to Knockaert who was creating openings left, right and centre with his runs and immaculate passing. I'm as frustrated as anyone, but never in a million years would I say we played 'very badly' when we looked the best side for most of the game.

Long shots aren't chances. Half chances aren't real chances.

The real chances we created were - Marshall miscontrolling it, Waghorn hitting the post and (and I think I'm being generous here) Nugent heading wide late on (if I'm being kind to him it was a bit too high for him and he was under pressure).

We gave the ball away so often, most of our crosses were crap, we did bugger all through the middle.

They did let us have the ball, hence why there was no pressing like there was first half.

When did Drinkwater remember how to pass the ball? He still gave it away at almost every opportunity in the second half. You're way off the mark there.

Wolves went for it first half, they were crap, but we were even crapper. We went for it second half, and were still too crap to create numerous chances and score 2 goals.

You say most of the game - even if you were right about the second half, that would have to mean we played well at one point in the first half too. So when was that?

Anyway, even if we looked a Premiership side for 90 minutes, is that really a good enough thing to be positive about now when we've lost 3 out of 3 in away games? For how many seasons are we going to be taking positives out of about 3 chances in away games when we've ended up losing? For how long are we going to make out we've been unlucky when actually we're the masters of our own downfall?

I'm not having it today, we deserved to lose, we lost the game ourselves, we gave it to them because we played appallingly, and more specifically, we defending appallingly.

No excuses this time.

[shen]

The point he's making is that one minute of those subs was first half and at half time.

Ah right, of course

[Foxhateram]

and knocky didn't you really are a tool!!! knocky had them shitting bricks (as you would say)

Oh dear god! Really? You really want to start this? Do you seriously think that Knocky is going to be effective like that throughout a game? He can play the way he does when he comes on for the last ten minutes because the defenders have run out of steam. If he were to start and play like that he would be burnt out within the first ten minutes. Dyer plays completely differently. and also keeps shape, where as Knoky doesn't. I am not saying he isn't an excellent player because he is but he will just get chopped in this league and burn out quickly.

Oh and btw you sir are the tool.