inckley fox Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 Cannot believe the mentality of the sack Pearson fans amongst you. The most successful club in this country stuck by their manager after a number of poor seasons and look where they are now? Alex Ferguson has been known to be curt and off hand with journalists and he doesn't get people calling for his head because he was rude to a well paid regional journalist. Adkins is no better than Pearson and hasn't had to deal with a club in turmoil (after sven left us in the shit) with a remit to significantly reduce the wage bill like Pearson has. If you want a manager who will give good interviews then why not get David pleat back? Awful manager but very polite to the press. Some very good points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiritwalker Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 Thought Adkins was either on gardening leave or fighting wrongful dismissal... So as far as the friend of a friend of a friend of a director goes... how does Adkins being approached fit with either of those two points... if they're true? Thought Adkins did a good job at Saints - sacking him was bizarre, but I think it fits with their owners wanting to attract certain players to St Mary's... (kind of like Pearson leaving here the day after AFI was formed to takeover the club & Sousa being appointed - maybe) I wouldn't be against him being manager of us in the right circumstances, which these aren't. How I understand it is, when a club sacks its manager rather than pay up the remainder of his contractmany now just continue to pay his wages( gardening leave) until he gets another job. When he gets another job they stop paying him and he is forced to sue for the remainder of his contract. Some therefore decide to just sit it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 Cannot believe the mentality of the sack Pearson fans amongst you. The most successful club in this country stuck by their manager after a number of poor seasons and look where they are now? Alex Ferguson has been known to be curt and off hand with journalists and he doesn't get people calling for his head because he was rude to a well paid regional journalist. Adkins is no better than Pearson and hasn't had to deal with a club in turmoil (after sven left us in the shit) with a remit to significantly reduce the wage bill like Pearson has. If you want a manager who will give good interviews then why not get David pleat back? Awful manager but very polite to the press. Do you mean Adkins who took Southampton to promotion in consecutive seasons? And who comes across as articulate, sensible and professional in interviews? Yes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cc_star Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 Hold on, is this the same Forest that are the most in-form team in the division and look highly likely to overtake us within the next week or so? As for players, that Vardy who he 'benched' is the most expensive non-league player in history, thanks to Pearson, and has started - what - sixteen or seventeen games this season. And Knockaert - well, I'm not a huge fan of Danns, but I'm not sure I could pick between the two of them right now. And can we be so sure that Whitbread is better than Mills? Or Marshall better than Vassell? James better than Abe? N'Guessan better than Gradel? Wood better than Howard at his peak? In general I prefer these additions to those they replaced, but I'm not convinced that the improvement is always as immense as we assume it to be. Danns is a headless chicken, bizarre how he's rated at all and never anything better than a bottom half player - His tackling is a hindrance to teams conceding free kicks in dangerous areas consistently. Knockaert plays good football, has the right attitude even when not playing - his form has gone now that negativity has taken over the player's minds, perhaps coming across from the crowd. But we've all seen the class he has & form is temporary. As for comparing Marshall & Vassell, Whitbread & Mills, Wood & Howard etc & etc Howard was very good in his prime, yes - that's why Pearson played him so long & Howard was a key part in any successes that came our way under Pearson before. Wood's scoring rate during his time with us is the best we've seen for as long as I can remember and over a longer period of time this season it's similarly great - He's also very young which fits in with what the owners seem to want - eg. they're an asset and have sell-on value, unlike Howard who had been awarded an extended contract in the high spending era despite being nowhere near good enough to play for us. Comparing Whitbread to Mills? Really? A free who was signed as backup to a £5m flop star-signing talisman on probably Premiership wages to get him to come to us rather than Wolves. Vassell was ok for us. Crap goal record, did ok-ish though which wasn't good enough... I'd have thought his deal was substantial too and it his age would only ever leave us on a free. But again with Marshall, he's an asset which will go up in value for a few years. He's been whipping real crosses in for a few games now and forwards haven't taken them. Kane today was the latest to miss an absolute sitter placed on his forehead with the goal at his mercy & he headed over. He's getting up & down the line well, and doing a good job on the wing... I'd like to see him play freer where he's a real danger, but it seems negativity has won over the team at the moment and we can't play the free attacking football which took us to the autos for some reason (perhaps our woeful home 'support' has finally rubbed off on the players mentality). Comparing £40k/week Abe to James? For £40k Taken as a whole though you're generally comparing players that when added together makes up a side that never ever once got out of midtable with players who when added together have never ever been out of the playoffs or above. All of them for less money, less wages & are all assets with sell on value I can't pretend things are all roses, they're pretty dire at the moment but you can't fault almost all the signings, the success rate of them & the fact he's had to do more with less is there for all to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chili_con_carne Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 Curbishley. Great manager. Get him in. How he's been unemployed for so long I don't know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEBIGJOHNSTEADER; Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 No. Just no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Fox Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 Isn't he in retirement now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom17LCFC Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_w Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 We've got a manager. We're in the top six. That's really all that needs to be said in response to all of those 'get so and so' threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john doe Posted 9 March 2013 Author Share Posted 9 March 2013 We've got a manager. We're in the top six. That's really all that needs to be said in response to all of those 'get so and so' threads. you are the waghorn fan nuff said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 Great manager. Get him in. How he's been unemployed for so long I don't know Think you've answered your own question. Did very well at Charlton, but no thanks. I'm sticking with Nige. you are the waghorn fan nuff said I know. I mean, how dare he support his team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acooling08 Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 If you look at Curbishleys record for both Charlton and West Ham, he appears to be a great manager. Lets keep Pearson though please!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Col city fan Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 The only manager I'd replace Pearson with is Nigel Adkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Fox Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 The only manager I'd replace Pearson with is Nigel Adkins Not even Roberto Di Matteo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munshi Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 C'mon you pearson haters. You can do better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cc_star Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 Do you mean Adkins who took Southampton to promotion in consecutive seasons? And who comes across as articulate, sensible and professional in interviews? Yes.... Who really gives a fvck about an interview with RL? Pearson talks candidly & just fine to Sky. And if you really want the local, specialist angle then take a look at Merc in which you can also get your manager 'insight' from, he's just fine with them too Common denominator in getting nothing out of NP is that nobber who failed on The Apprentice, so If you're that bothered about RL then write to the BBC about the clueless, amateurish buffoon in the hat. Pearson gets on great with the people he needs to get on with, the players & club staff - If you cast your mind back to Bruno Berner's blog post which talked about Pearson's leadership & management style, keep in mind Berner wrote that when Pearson was basically ending his career, having never played him on his return to the club. And fvck, Pearson (if he's still here tomorrow) really, really, really needs those skills now to stop this slide continuing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 Not even Roberto Di Matteo? No, Atkins knows this division inside out and I think DiMatteo would make wholesale changes to the squad, which I wouldn't want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen parva fox Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 I heard Neil Lennon was coming home! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfox Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 We've got a manager. We're in the top six. That's really all that needs to be said in response to all of those 'get so and so' threads. Then when we fall out of the play-offs next week, what happens then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen parva fox Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 Neil Lennon is coming home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Fox Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 No, Atkins knows this division inside out and I think DiMatteo would make wholesale changes to the squad, which I wouldn't want. Adkins, has only managed at this level for one season like Di Matteo has as well both managers gaining automatic promotion for their respective clubs. Di Matteo's philosophy would suit our side quite nicely same as Adkins either one of them and I will be well chuffed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 Adkins, has only managed at this level for one season like Di Matteo has as well both managers gaining automatic promotion for their respective clubs. Adkins had a few seasons at this level with Scunthorpe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Fox Posted 9 March 2013 Share Posted 9 March 2013 Adkins had a few seasons at this level with Scunthorpe. I totally forgot about that time he had at Scunny but he only seemed to me to make an impact at Southampton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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