Alf Bentley Posted 13 March 2013 Posted 13 March 2013 if sky choose a match to be moved clubs/football league have no say in the matter and your proof of this fact is where ????? In the statement the club released and the contract they all signed. Babylon, do you have a link to, or direct quote from that contract? As for the statement, maybe I'm turning into a conspiracy theorist, but I'd exercise caution over trusting a statement issued by any individual or organisation that suited their own interests. After all, Clinton stated that "he did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky", Blair stated that there were WMDs in Iraq and Huhne spent a year denying that he'd passed speeding points on to his missus....
Dan Posted 13 March 2013 Posted 13 March 2013 The game of football is a joke because it's not at 3pm on a saturday all the time?? Jeez ..... lighten up .... It's entertainment and it's following the market for entertainment - Ie, at times when it can be televised. Personally I'm not a creature of habit so i don't have to have a hissy fit because the time of a kick off is moved .... don't get why it's such a big deal. Lighten up my arse. For a club that seems to focus so much of its matchday around kids, don't you find it slightly contradictory that they keep agreeing to change fixtures for when kids for example can't go? It's just a further reflection at who the game is aimed at today - matchgoing fans, in-particular those who can't go to these games, have every right to feel pissed off.
J.Lisemore Posted 13 March 2013 Posted 13 March 2013 So you wont get a season ticket because we might have to play a few friday night games if we stay in the champpionship, but you will get one if we go up, when we could and will be moved to Sunday and Monday nights? Personally I'd prefer Firday night games to Sunday and Monday We all have different working hours lad. I don't work on Saturdays, I thought we'd be playing most Saturdays with the odd midweek game to be expected... if I'd known it was gonna be a midweek season ticket, then I wouldn't have renewed.
soulsister Posted 14 March 2013 Posted 14 March 2013 good morning one and all !! So to try and get this sorted I've emailed the Football League direct to ask the question regarding the obligatory 1 match that they state is required? So if they bother to respond ill let you all know.. then when we have the full facts, and can put this one to bed.. As im still in the belief that Sky are not the ultimate power on this and that the club are using the '' we are obliged b******t'' as an excuse to market the brand take the 80k a match So watch this space.............
5waller5 Posted 14 March 2013 Posted 14 March 2013 Lighten up my arse. For a club that seems to focus so much of its matchday around kids, don't you find it slightly contradictory that they keep agreeing to change fixtures for when kids for example can't go? It's just a further reflection at who the game is aimed at today - matchgoing fans, in-particular those who can't go to these games, have every right to feel pissed off. Maybe all the whinging people on here going on about how the atmosphere is ruined by the introduction of families, will have their time to shine and show, the people like me that take my kids, just how good it is without them!
Jakemoore Posted 14 March 2013 Posted 14 March 2013 I can see why you lot are annoyed by this, I would be too if I was a season ticket holder! It's great for me though.
demon_dog Posted 14 March 2013 Posted 14 March 2013 Huddersfield have gotten away with it all season! Their Safety Advisory Group has constantly vetoed games, it was only just recently that the club pointed out to the S.A.G that they must be allowed to have one game shown on Sky otherwise they would be in breach of league rules and be fined and deducted points accordingly. The S.A.G. relented and allowed the match to be screened, allbeit a "fans fixture" with as little police invovement as possible. Purely a financial matter as far as the S.A.G. are concerned as it saves the local authority a lot of money in policing the matches.(away from the ground) Why don't Leicester do the same, get the S.A.G to refuse pointing out the above. But then again it's was clearly safe for fan's to try to get to the ground in a snow storm recently, so much for Leicester's S.A.G.
soulsister Posted 14 March 2013 Posted 14 March 2013 Right then................ my reply from the Football League I think you will find the sentance................but in this economic climate clubs need the revenue generated by these deals to help them to survive and they rarely oppose any change of fixture for TV. that the oportunity to do so is there.............. I rest my case your honour.. Alison, Thank you for your email with regards to the Leicester City and the recent fixture change. Whilst we understand your frustrations it is worth noting that within our contract with Sky there is an eight week window for fixture rescheduling although this can be flexible in that changes can be made up to 28 days before. Occasionally the deadline will be even tighter. The contract with Sky is obviously very important financially to our clubs and in return there has to be a certain level of flexibility with regard to fixture changes. That is not to say that we ignore the wishes of fans either. We try to accommodate all parties involved where possible but sometimes this can be difficult. Our Clubs ultimately dictate whether we sign commercial agreements with our broadcasting partners, but in doing so they have to acknowledge and accept the consequences that this has for their club and its supporters. Obviously this is not always ideal for supporters, but in this economic climate clubs need the revenue generated by these deals to help them to survive and they rarely oppose any change of fixture for TV. Thank you for contacting The Football League. Kind Regards Amanda
unreachable Posted 14 March 2013 Posted 14 March 2013 Why can't "kids" go to an evening match when there's no school the following day?
fordy_uk2005 Posted 14 March 2013 Posted 14 March 2013 Money is clearly more important than are support why buy season tickets when the games get changed constantly
acooling08 Posted 14 March 2013 Posted 14 March 2013 Already discussed mutliple times before. The club have released a statement apologising and saying that they cannot oppose TV changes to the season schedule.
Harry - LCFC Posted 14 March 2013 Posted 14 March 2013 We've had more than one. Sheffield Wednesday and...? I can't think of any others, might be wrong but I don't think we've had more than one.
Alf Bentley Posted 14 March 2013 Posted 14 March 2013 Right then................ my reply from the Football League I think you will find the sentance................but in this economic climate clubs need the revenue generated by these deals to help them to survive and they rarely oppose any change of fixture for TV. that the oportunity to do so is there.............. I rest my case your honour.. Alison, Thank you for your email with regards to the Leicester City and the recent fixture change. Whilst we understand your frustrations it is worth noting that within our contract with Sky there is an eight week window for fixture rescheduling although this can be flexible in that changes can be made up to 28 days before. Occasionally the deadline will be even tighter. The contract with Sky is obviously very important financially to our clubs and in return there has to be a certain level of flexibility with regard to fixture changes. That is not to say that we ignore the wishes of fans either. We try to accommodate all parties involved where possible but sometimes this can be difficult. Our Clubs ultimately dictate whether we sign commercial agreements with our broadcasting partners, but in doing so they have to acknowledge and accept the consequences that this has for their club and its supporters. Obviously this is not always ideal for supporters, but in this economic climate clubs need the revenue generated by these deals to help them to survive and they rarely oppose any change of fixture for TV. Thank you for contacting The Football League. Kind Regards Amanda Thanks for chasing this up, Soulsister Alison. The response you've received is as unclear as the ones I got from the Football League last year, when I emailed them about the Norwich ticket fiasco...I assume they are vague on purpose. However, as you say (and as Demon Dog suggests above re. Huddersfield), it does seem that the clubs do have an option to contest having matches moved for TV, even if they rarely use that option...and even if they're contractually obliged to accept at least 1 match being moved. Of course, if a lot of clubs did start refusing to move matches for TV, presumably that might affect whether Sky signed the contracts - and on what terms, which could have a detrimental effect on the clubs financially. You'd imagine that the League would lean on clubs that jeopardised the TV deal by refusing to move matches. However, having your last 4 home games moved for TV seems like justified circumstances in which to refuse, at least for 1 or 2 of those matches....if you're thinking of your supporters, and not (a) promoting your brand on TV; and (b) looking to make some extra cash. It seems pretty clear what LCFC's priority is.... It is unclear whether "Safety Advisory Groups" are the only means of stopping matches being moved. Babylon and Demon Dog seem to think so, but we've yet to see any evidence.....and, interestingly, the Football League don't mention SAGs in their letter. They merely imply that the clubs are under a moral obligation to agree such moves so that they don't all lose out financially.
Dan Posted 15 March 2013 Posted 15 March 2013 Maybe all the whinging people on here going on about how the atmosphere is ruined by the introduction of families, will have their time to shine and show, the people like me that take my kids, just how good it is without them! Families going aren't the problem. The emphasis of the matchday experience that Leicester City base around families certainly is - and their poor attitude towards those who make atmosphere.
Mark_w Posted 15 March 2013 Posted 15 March 2013 Sheffield Wednesday and...? I can't think of any others, might be wrong but I don't think we've had more than one. Sorry, I just think season whenever someone says year if they're talking about football.
Head Honcho Posted 15 March 2013 Posted 15 March 2013 Just counted. Only 7 of our 23 home games will have been Saturday 3pm. (Dunno if that is 100% right but doing off memory) Here they are: Peterborough Bristol City Palace Ipswich Barnsley Cardiff Sheff Weds Have I missed any? Didn't we lose 5 of thoses?
Munshi Posted 15 March 2013 Posted 15 March 2013 Didn't we lose 5 of thoses? We lost 3 Cardiff,Palace,Weds
Bayfox Posted 15 March 2013 Posted 15 March 2013 They kill the atmosphere if anything. That says more about modern day football fans than anything. I like a few pints friday. Football and a sing song tops it off.
Kitchandro Posted 18 March 2013 Posted 18 March 2013 Changed from platinum to gold fixture. Good, at least that's some common sense.
cjslcfc Posted 20 March 2013 Posted 20 March 2013 Didn't we lose 5 of thoses? lost 3, drew 1... F**k Saturday 3 pm. We want to be on sky every game...
flowwolf Posted 20 March 2013 Posted 20 March 2013 ? Who the Feck are you Flowwolf to call someone spineless? Time you gave in really, your often obnoxious on here and you appear to think being insulting is in some way hilarious. The 'Jack Dee' style humour is long dead, get a new name and try to re-invent yourself, you may then learn to enjoy life,. I take it back you are not spineless you have just ripped me up good and proper well done.
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