Sack him now!

[katieakita]

MON, Lennon, Di Matteo, Mick McCarthy even Mark Hughes are better options than NP.

You could throw in Messi as player manager, they may or may not be better options but would they come?

[Bob Weasel Fox]

MON, Lennon, Di Matteo, Mick McCarthy even Mark Hughes are better options than NP.

The first three yes but not mccarthy or Hughes

[Mark_w]

MON, Lennon, Di Matteo, Mick McCarthy even Mark Hughes are better options than NP.

None of them would currently join Leicester City. So there's no point even discussing how many of them are better than Pearson. That post really isn't very helpful is it Happy Fox?

[martyn]

On what basis could anybody confidently state that Neil Lennon would be a better option than NP.

I could lead Celtic to the SPL title.

[Manwell Pablo]

On what basis could anybody confidently state that Neil Lennon would be a better option than NP.

I could lead Celtic to the SPL title.

Probably more convincingly than he has this season as well.

[kingfox]

This current run is nearly as bad as the one we had under Levein, and probably joint or even worse when we had Sousa.

Whoever defends that kind of form is deluded, regardless if he is one of our most successful managers of all time.

Forget looking back, this is now, and under Pearson currently, we are absolutely shit.

[inckley fox]

I mean this in the nicest possible way but **** off mate.

with the 10 years things your splitting hairs by 2 weeks, what do you want Mark to say? He's the best manager we've had in 9 years 11 months and 2 weeks? Behave.

I can recall our team, we had no budget, infact I believe we had a transfer embargo so we couldn't sign anyone, a fuking good job with Adams if you ask me, fortunatly we had lads at the club capable of doing a job and by far the best midfielder in the division, that is why we went up, end of.

Well, he achieved that less than ten years ago and was still our manager eight and a half years ago. So if we accept that Adams achieved more than Pearson, and he was manager less than ten years ago, and his greatest achievement occurred less than ten years ago, how can we keep saying that Pearson is our best manager in the past ten years?!

And another point. Of those eight and a half years, Pearson has been manager for three and a half of them, so what we're actually talking about is 'the best manager in the five of the last eight and a half years that Pearson hasn't been manager in'. Doesn't sound so good, does it?!

In seriousness though, I basically agree with you. Adams' transfer policy was completely scatter-gun and left us with a stack of aging players on short term contracts, out for their last day in the sun at Leicester. Levein and Kelly never had his squad-building opportunities, never reversed the decline and the rest was history. Of course, some day Sven and Pearson's squandering of our millions - especially if it ends in financial trouble - could be viewed as a far greater disaster.

But Adams, nonetheless, did get us to the top flight (and in the last ten years...).

[acooling08]

Anybody calling for the manager to be sacked now is, in my opinion, a complete moron.

Pearson is without question the best manager we have had for many years (Adams and before that O'Neil). He has got us closer to the Premiership than anybody else since. Yes, there may be a few decent managers out there but why do we need to change? Instant success is not something that happens much at all (excluding a good run of form immediately after the appointment). We need to stablise as a club and I think that Pearson is the man to do that.

He has recruited relatively unknown young, exciting players for next to nothing or on loan (Keane, De Laet, James, DD, etc and bought in some quality (Morgan, Wood, Knockaert) too. The wage bill is nearing sustainable after the damage Sven did.

Yes, he has his faults. He is stubborn, at times seems tactically inept and makes poor substitutions. But for the most part, he gets it right. Every club has its fans that get on the managers back... look at Wenger at Arsenal.

If you are one of those pointing at our recent terrible run of form as a reason to get rid, then firstly remind yourself who got us into 2nd in the first place, and then ask yourself how much blame can Pearson take for the terrible performances from our players? Some yes, but not all.

And now we have seemingly started to turn it around (5 minutes of football away from back to back wins) with some fantastic performances but unlucky results. How anybody can say Pearson has lost the players is beyond me. They have put so much into the last 2 games. The reaction when we went 2-1 up tonight showed how much it means, and the horror at conceding late again was clear to see. The players ARE committed and behind Pearson.

We still have 6th to play for, playing the teams above us and the teams above aren't exactly on winning streaks themselves.

For Christ's sake, can't the miserable bastards (sherwood, seenitall, waller etc etc) just get behind us for the last 4 games.

I'm sure if we fail to get promoted then you can have a go at Pearson (I'd give him another season anyway as the revolving door method DOES NOT work and never will) and enjoy feeling smug. (No doubt you would rather us fail so you can gloat).

LETS BE POSITIVE AND GET BEHIND THE PLAYERS/MANAGER FOR THE NEXT 4 MASSIVE GAMES.

COYB.

[Manwell Pablo]

Well, he achieved that less than ten years ago and was still our manager eight and a half years ago. So if we accept that Adams achieved more than Pearson, and he was manager less than ten years ago, and his greatest achievement occurred less than ten years ago, how can we keep saying that Pearson is our best manager in the past ten years?!

And another point. Of those eight and a half years, Pearson has been manager for three and a half of them, so what we're actually talking about is 'the best manager in the five of the last eight and a half years that Pearson hasn't been manager in'. Doesn't sound so good, does it?!

In seriousness though, I basically agree with you. Adams' transfer policy was completely scatter-gun and left us with a stack of aging players on short term contracts, out for their last day in the sun at Leicester. Levein and Kelly never had his squad-building opportunities, never reversed the decline and the rest was history. Of course, some day Sven and Pearson's squandering of our millions - especially if it ends in financial trouble - could be viewed as a far greater disaster.

But Adams, nonetheless, did get us to the top flight (and in the last ten years...).

The highlighted bit tells you all you need to know about your first paragraphs!

I personally, don't see how Pearson has done anything other than balanced the books. He has not spent big, in fact he's been quite shrewd in the transfer market, He sold on enough of Svens rejects to make his own money back. I'm not saying we can't do better his reducing of the wage bill and sales should not go over looked, if you asked me a the start of the season where we would be at this point of the season I'd say about where we are now or slightly lower.

As I said you can roll out the last ten years thing, was 9 years 11 months and two weeks ago, your tedious of splitting hairs sums up this forum at times. He was a joke in the prem, left us up shit creek knew he'd ****ed it and resigned.I view Pearson as a better manager than him and there is a reason Pearson is at Leicester City and a reason why Adams is down in League Two, Adams got lucky with a good team the fact he got us promoted does not make him a better manager than Pearson. Sadly I think Pearson has pound for pound been our best manager since O'Neil on both occasions.

[inckley fox]

The highlighted bit tells you all you need to know about your first paragraphs!

I personally, don't see how Pearson has done anything other than balanced the books. He has not spent big, in fact he's been quite shrewd in the transfer market, He sold on enough of Svens rejects to make his own money back. I'm not saying we can't do better his reducing of the wage bill and sales should not go over looked, if you asked me a the start of the season where we would be at this point of the season I'd say about where we are now or slightly lower.

As I said you can roll out the last ten years thing, was 9 years 11 months and two weeks ago, your tedious of splitting hairs sums up this forum at times. He was a joke in the prem, left us up shit creek knew he'd ****ed it and resigned.I view Pearson as a better manager than him and there is a reason Pearson is at Leicester City and a reason why Adams is down in League Two, Adams got lucky with a good team the fact he got us promoted does not make him a better manager than Pearson. Sadly I think Pearson has pound for pound been our best manager since O'Neil on both occasions.

Well, you know, I am sort of trying to be funny. Just ignore it.

And essentially I agree with what you're saying, except for that being play-off contenders beats actually getting promoted. Okay, you've rightly pointed out that it's not as simple as that, but it's difficult to confidently say that he's been our best manager for ten years because the manager who was in charge eight-and-a-half years ago also has a strong case. In fact, when you consider that before Adams we had Bassett, and before him Taylor, then if we work on the assumption that Pearson was better than Adams your thirteen years would make more sense than his ten.

I just find it a very arbitrary statement - 'our best manager in ten years!' And it ignores the fact that he's been in charge for over three of them, and most of the rest were the least successful period in our history with awful managers, a collapse in form, and financial ruin.

It's a bit like saying 'the best song on the Take That album...'

[paulsherwood1]

Anybody calling for the manager to be sacked now is, in my opinion, a complete moron.

Pearson is without question the best manager we have had for many years (Adams and before that O'Neil). He has got us closer to the Premiership than anybody else since. Yes, there may be a few decent managers out there but why do we need to change? Instant success is not something that happens much at all (excluding a good run of form immediately after the appointment). We need to stablise as a club and I think that Pearson is the man to do that.

He has recruited relatively unknown young, exciting players for next to nothing or on loan (Keane, De Laet, James, DD, etc and bought in some quality (Morgan, Wood, Knockaert) too. The wage bill is nearing sustainable after the damage Sven did.

Yes, he has his faults. He is stubborn, at times seems tactically inept and makes poor substitutions. But for the most part, he gets it right. Every club has its fans that get on the managers back... look at Wenger at Arsenal.

If you are one of those pointing at our recent terrible run of form as a reason to get rid, then firstly remind yourself who got us into 2nd in the first place, and then ask yourself how much blame can Pearson take for the terrible performances from our players? Some yes, but not all.

And now we have seemingly started to turn it around (5 minutes of football away from back to back wins) with some fantastic performances but unlucky results. How anybody can say Pearson has lost the players is beyond me. They have put so much into the last 2 games. The reaction when we went 2-1 up tonight showed how much it means, and the horror at conceding late again was clear to see. The players ARE committed and behind Pearson.

We still have 6th to play for, playing the teams above us and the teams above aren't exactly on winning streaks themselves.

For Christ's sake, can't the miserable bastards (sherwood, seenitall, waller etc etc) just get behind us for the last 4 games.

I'm sure if we fail to get promoted then you can have a go at Pearson (I'd give him another season anyway as the revolving door method DOES NOT work and never will) and enjoy feeling smug. (No doubt you would rather us fail so you can gloat).

LETS BE POSITIVE AND GET BEHIND THE PLAYERS/MANAGER FOR THE NEXT 4 MASSIVE GAMES.

COYB.

Admirable. However.

He took us to 2nd.... Hooray!! That means nothing at the end of the season. Fact is we are scrambling to get in the play offs after our worst run in 6 years.

I think we ( the fans ) have tried to be positive. But the fact is with the biggest investment, best squad and facilities, NP has successfully taken us to just outside the play offs.

I'm behind the team, I don't boo the team. I'm not a moron because I have a different view to you.

I'm also not a miserable bastard because I don't accept this appalling run of form that has taken an automatic promotion team to a team outside the play offs.

[Bob Weasel Fox]

This current run is nearly as bad as the one we had under Levein, and probably joint or even worse when we had Sousa.

Whoever defends that kind of form is deluded, regardless if he is one of our most successful managers of all time.

Forget looking back, this is now, and under Pearson currently, we are absolutely shit.

This sorry but this

[Happy Fox]

NFP is an okay manager if we want to do a Dierby County or trudge along in this division for the forseeable future which I doubt is the Thais ambition. We won't get promotion under his tenure from this division imo.

Best thing to do is the Thais bring in a manager that has got promotion from this level and is competent also at prem level as well.

[Mark_w]

NFP is an okay manager if we want to do a Dierby County.

No Nigel Clough is a good manager if we want to do a Dierby County, Nigel Pearson is good example of a manager who consistently builds sides that challenge for a play-off spot.

[inckley fox]

NFP is an okay manager if we want to do a Dierby County or trudge along in this division for the forseeable future which I doubt is the Thais ambition. We won't get promotion under his tenure from this division imo.

Best thing to do is the Thais bring in a manager that has got promotion from this level and is competent also at prem level as well.

You're probably right. But if we want an O'Neill or a Di Matteo we'll have to wait a little longer, because firing Pearson now wouldn't make us look a great prospect for potential candidates. In the meantime, let's just get behind them.

[Manwell Pablo]

Well, you know, I am sort of trying to be funny. Just ignore it.

And essentially I agree with what you're saying, except for that being play-off contenders beats actually getting promoted. Okay, you've rightly pointed out that it's not as simple as that, but it's difficult to confidently say that he's been our best manager for ten years because the manager who was in charge eight-and-a-half years ago also has a strong case. In fact, when you consider that before Adams we had Bassett, and before him Taylor, then if we work on the assumption that Pearson was better than Adams your thirteen years would make more sense than his ten.

I just find it a very arbitrary statement - 'our best manager in ten years!' And it ignores the fact that he's been in charge for over three of them, and most of the rest were the least successful period in our history with awful managers, a collapse in form, and financial ruin.

It's a bit like saying 'the best song on the Take That album...'

Well it's a debate that doesn't need to be had, I personally agree with him on resource etc Pearson nearly achieve back to back promotions, something much more admirable than taking advantage of administration and going back up. Taylor and Basset are irrelevant, we still had a Premier league squad and retained the vast majority of it.

Although that would make Pearson the best manager we've had for 11 years, but give Mark some breathing room, He's a young lad who thinks who knows it all because he can use a search engine. He seems a lad of reasonable knowledge for his age but I'm quite sure he wouldn't be able to have a discussion in person to the level he does on here without reaching for his iPhone, he's obviously seen the last time we were doing well was 10 years ago and his pretty much right so.........

[Happy Fox]

The argument would be similar to NFP in league one that he inherited a championship standard squad of players!

[inckley fox]

Well it's a debate that doesn't need to be had, I personally agree with him on resource etc Pearson nearly achieve back to back promotions, something much more admirable than taking advantage of administration and going back up. Taylor and Basset are irrelevant, we still had a Premier league squad and retained the vast majority of it.

Although that would make Pearson the best manager we've had for 11 years, but give Mark some breathing room, He's a young lad who thinks who knows it all because he can use a search engine. He seems a lad of reasonable knowledge for his age but I'm quite sure he wouldn't be able to have a discussion in person to the level he does on here without reaching for his iPhone, he's obviously seen the last time we were doing well was 10 years ago and his pretty much right so.........

[Bob Weasel Fox]

If we're happy with 1 win in 14 games then Pearson is the man

[Guest Basildon Fox]

The argument would be similar to NFP in league one that he inherited a championship standard squad of players!

Very good point there. And he had money to spend on players too.

[5waller5]

You know when you hear managers of the club bottom of the league, that get an average of half a point a game, at the end of the season saying it's not over if we win the next four games???

When i got in the car tonight and heard NP say the same it felt as realistic.

At what point are the guys sticking behind Pearson going to face reality??? He should have been sacked weeks ago - this is just humiliating for everyone, including NP, now.

We are not going to suddenly return top of the table form from bottom of the table form. Give it up.

[Guy]

I think NP himself would be amazed if he was still here for next season now if we fail to make the play offs, as looks to be the case now with all of our four remaining games against our nearest and dearest! He looked all at sea in the post match interview, probably because of the way things went against us again tonight - but even so 1 win in 14 is probably not what the Thais had envisaged on New Years Day after the false dawn Huddersfield 6-1 triumph. It all now makes what happened to Sven look more ridiculous still!

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

Pearson is a disgrace, now having turned us into the laughing stock of the Championship.

Pathetic, inept, negative, and not fit to manage this club. The bullshit has to stop now. He and many of his players have no place at this club.

Just pack your bags push off Pearson.. Do us all a favour.

[Guest Basildon Fox]

You know when you hear managers of the club bottom of the league, that get an average of half a point a game, at the end of the season saying it's not over if we win the next four games???

When i got in the car tonight and heard NP say the same it felt as realistic.

At what point are the guys sticking behind Pearson going to face reality??? He should have been sacked weeks ago - this is just humiliating for everyone, including NP, now.

We are not going to suddenly return top of the table form from bottom of the table form. Give it up.

At what point are you going to realise that he is not going to be sacked now this season with 4 ****ING GAMES LEFT? In upper case to make sure you see. If he gets binned in the summer then so be it but to call for his head with 4 games to go is moronic. Get behind the team ffs!!

[Mark_w]

Well it's a debate that doesn't need to be had, I personally agree with him on resource etc Pearson nearly achieve back to back promotions, something much more admirable than taking advantage of administration and going back up. Taylor and Basset are irrelevant, we still had a Premier league squad and retained the vast majority of it.

Although that would make Pearson the best manager we've had for 11 years, but give Mark some breathing room, He's a young lad who thinks who knows it all because he can use a search engine. He seems a lad of reasonable knowledge for his age but I'm quite sure he wouldn't be able to have a discussion in person to the level he does on here without reaching for his iPhone, he's obviously seen the last time we were doing well was 10 years ago and his pretty much right so.........

I started watching around 10 years ago, hence the fact that it's the time frame I'm focusing on. It's not that I've had a quick search to see when we were last doing well, whilst I was obviously quite young I was watching ten years ago and think that I've got every right to discuss it just as you do.

I take advantage of stats sites to back-up the points I want to make about players, but I think it's unfair for you to say that I couldn't have a proper debate over these players in person when you've never met me. When these stats are readily available I think it'd be a bit foolish not to use them, but that doesn't mean that I'm helpless without them, at least I don't think that's the case. Don't see why you've felt the need to post your appraisal of me anyway, I've not tried to judge you based on a handful of posts on a football forum.