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[MooseBreath]

Didn't agree with the stick she got for the motivational speaker. He was clearly the only remotely professional aspect of their whole day. No doubt the vast majority of what the client was willing to pay was down to him. Had they done it themselves they would have saved the £500 but ended up having to give back more as a refund.

Louisa should have gone. Blatant poisonous influence.

[ealingfox]

I disagree when you say that Kurt should have been fired over the cm/inches thing.

For a start blokes always get them mixed up!

And secondly it did not cost them the failure of the task. It cost them £10-£15 at most (I'm not exactly sure but i know it wasnt a lot). Therefore if he hasn't made this mistake they still would have lost...

Glad Leah didnt lose last night or she was a gonner! Phew

 

 

Blokes who are in primary school maybe. I don't even really know how they made the mistake, the items on the list have their specifications written underneath, why did they not just read out what it said on the sheet?

 

It also cost them time as well as money. How can you trust a 250k business venture with someone who makes mistakes like that?

[StanSP]

Didn't agree with the stick she got for the motivational speaker. He was clearly the only remotely professional aspect of their whole day. No doubt the vast majority of what the client was willing to pay was down to him. Had they done it themselves they would have saved the £500 but ended up having to give back more as a refund.

Louisa should have gone. Blatant poisonous influence.

 

Probably. But given how the whole day went, they probably would have been better off saving the money and adding a personal touch to it. After all, that's what the other team got praised for - getting to know the customers on a personal level - it was about customer satisfaction too, and by talking to the customers individually (looks like Neil and Myles especially), it appeared that that was a key factor in winning the task.

[Captain...]

Probably. But given how the whole day went, they probably would have been better off saving the money and adding a personal touch to it. After all, that's what the other team got praised for - getting to know the customers on a personal level - it was about customer satisfaction too, and by talking to the customers individually (looks like Neil and Myles especially), it appeared that that was a key factor in winning the task.

I'm with moose here, any motivational speech given by anyone on that team would have been horrendous, getting in a professional war the right thing to do, although they could have negotiated better on price, it was a days notice, so assuming he was free and didn't cancel anything he had the option of earning something or nothing and they could have got a good discount.

They also went to Morrison's instead of a cash and carry for crying out loud, that would have cost them a fair amount too.

Louisa was just horrendous though that exchange with the chocolate maker was just bizarre.

[StanSP]

I'm with moose here, any motivational speech given by anyone on that team would have been horrendous, getting in a professional war the right thing to do, although they could have negotiated better on price, it was a days notice, so assuming he was free and didn't cancel anything he had the option of earning something or nothing and they could have got a good discount.

They also went to Morrison's instead of a cash and carry for crying out loud, that would have cost them a fair amount too.

Louisa was just horrendous though that exchange with the chocolate maker was just bizarre.

 

Fair enough.

 

But regarding the shopping, that's what I was saying earlier - they spent way too much there. Nearly £300!!

 

Yeah, Luisa had some nerve there. I think Jason is scared in her presence .

[The Horse's Mouth]

I really want to punch that Jordan feller in the face, he's a fvcking ****.

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

I really want to punch that Jordan feller in the face, he's a fvcking ****.

 

I like him. 

 

YES GET IN!

[ADK]

Not watched the appentice in years, amazed it's still going. Have the winners ever gone on to achieve anything?

[StanSP]

Not watched the appentice in years, amazed it's still going. Have the winners ever gone on to achieve anything?

 

A healthy bank balance.

[The Year Of The Fox]

Although you shouldn't bite the hands that potentially feed you, I agree with Luisa. There is so much corporate bollocks nowadays, a slogan for this, a slogan for that, a 'thinking outside the box' phrase for this, and a 'one step ahead' phrase for that. I respect that people have jobs to do, so not knocking anyone on here if they do this sort of stuff.

 

Do these 'away days' really benefit you as a person and in your 'office aims'? It strikes me as bloody daft that some clearly astute business men and women feel the need for what is effectively a career based life coach.

 

I'd throw myself willingly into any team tasks such as those last night, but would take any advice from some twit standing up in front of me speaking in riddles with a massive pinch of salt. It really does seem like a lot of hot air gets spouted out. As someone used to say, 'I don't want to hear someone talk and talk and talk and don't say nothing'!  

 

Communication seemed like a huge factor in what these corporate people said they need to focus on. That's always been the case surely? These days just seem so patronising to some very intelligent people.

[MooseBreath]

Team building events are useful. But I think the motivational speaking is probably an American addition and I would have thought almost every British person would react to that with deep cynicism.

[The Year Of The Fox]

Team building events are useful. But I think the motivational speaking is probably an American addition and I would have thought almost every British person would react to that with deep cynicism.

The team building thing is great- if you're new to the team. If you've been in the same office with Andrew, Rory Ian and Rachael for the past 10 years, is the team building thing necessary? Whilst Neil and Myles were clearly on the ball with what Sugar and the clients wanted I struggled to 'get it' from the off. How can you link the activities they were doing with what goes on in an office they've never set foot in?! The motivational speaker thing- was he there to try and motivate the clients? Or was he there to pass on tips and teach the clients how to do motivational speeches of their own?? He certainly seemed entertaining and he grabbed my attention, but other than enjoy listening to him for the sake of it killing time, I'd find no other benefit from him IMO.

[SystonFox]

The best team building is a few pints. Should have just done that really then eh. I should project manage next week

[Vlad the Fox]

I disagree when you say that Kurt should have been fired over the cm/inches thing.

For a start blokes always get them mixed up!

And secondly it did not cost them the failure of the task. It cost them £10-£15 at most (I'm not exactly sure but i know it wasnt a lot). Therefore if he hasn't made this mistake they still would have lost...

Glad Leah didnt lose last night or she was a gonner! Phew

He deserved to stay for the comedy 'Spinal Tap' moment.

[Captain...]

The team building thing is great- if you're new to the team. If you've been in the same office with Andrew, Rory Ian and Rachael for the past 10 years, is the team building thing necessary? Whilst Neil and Myles were clearly on the ball with what Sugar and the clients wanted I struggled to 'get it' from the off. How can you link the activities they were doing with what goes on in an office they've never set foot in?! The motivational speaker thing- was he there to try and motivate the clients? Or was he there to pass on tips and teach the clients how to do motivational speeches of their own?? He certainly seemed entertaining and he grabbed my attention, but other than enjoy listening to him for the sake of it killing time, I'd find no other benefit from him IMO.

I always hate these kind of away days but I always end up with the other cynical cvnts in the corner. As a corporate tool they are useful and they do work, maybe not as how they wanted it to work on the apprentice, but they get people talking together away from the office.

[The Year Of The Fox]

I always hate these kind of away days but I always end up with the other cynical cvnts in the corner. As a corporate tool they are useful and they do work, maybe not as how they wanted it to work on the apprentice, but they get people talking together away from the office.

I just find that strange though. Perhaps I'm lucky, perhaps plumbers aren't as 'stuffy' as office workers, but I know the 14 of us on our firm constantly ring one another and go out for a few drinks every week. Surely if your fellow employees were decent you'd want to get to know them outside of work anyway?!

I'm very glad I never ended up in an office despite being told that it was the way forward and that I'm probably more academic than practical even if my job will limit my future salary. You never find backstabbing and one upmanship anywhere as rife as in an office, all filled with some pretentious people only intent on arse licking the boss. Perhaps they should do away with these event days and the boss just asks that once a month on a Friday that all his staff go for q pint!?

[MooseBreath]

Your views on office work are quite stereotypical, which I guess isn't surprising since you've never actually worked in one.

In any decent office there is plenty of social life, but also a variety of tastes and interests which means some people never attend the same gatherings which can lead to poor communication. Away days force everyone to get together.

As a plumber your peers are probably all much the same as you so it's a lot easier. Plus communication skills aren't nearly as important for you.

[Captain...]

I just find that strange though. Perhaps I'm lucky, perhaps plumbers aren't as 'stuffy' as office workers, but I know the 14 of us on our firm constantly ring one another and go out for a few drinks every week. Surely if your fellow employees were decent you'd want to get to know them outside of work anyway?!

I'm very glad I never ended up in an office despite being told that it was the way forward and that I'm probably more academic than practical even if my job will limit my future salary. You never find backstabbing and one upmanship anywhere as rife as in an office, all filled with some pretentious people only intent on arse licking the boss. Perhaps they should do away with these event days and the boss just asks that once a month on a Friday that all his staff go for q pint!?

Every office is different, some offices will have a few hundred people spread out across all departments, or a company could have 10 offices spread around the country, it is very easy to communicate with someone on a daily basis without ever actually meeting them in the flesh.

[The Year Of The Fox]

Your views on office work are quite stereotypical, which I guess isn't surprising since you've never actually worked in one.

In any decent office there is plenty of social life, but also a variety of tastes and interests which means some people never attend the same gatherings which can lead to poor communication. Away days force everyone to get together.

As a plumber your peers are probably all much the same as you so it's a lot easier. Plus communication skills aren't nearly as important for you.

Possibly so though my dad has worked in an office all his life. We also do enough work in offices to get a gist of what most I've been to are like.

Communication in our job is very important especially when trying to tie in our job with other trades as well well as if another bloke is taking over a job they've not been to before.

We just spend more time actually communicating with one another rather than talking about the idea of communicating with one another.

[digitalalba]

Thought Neil did very well last week. Upto then he came accross quite arrogant. Ive got a feeling Miles will win, but the 'best' contestant is ALWAYS the one Alan thinks has the best business plan. Was it last year Tom won it, not the best Apprentice.

[MooseBreath]

That Leah bint is a right miserable cow. Looks likes she's missing her regular dose of hard anal sex. Can see her getting shafted by sugar the way things are going.

[Rincewind]

I do love constructive criticism. Well said.

[MooseBreath]

I do love constructive criticism. Well said.

Clever boy Jonathan!

[The Horse's Mouth]

Doesn't surprise me that Jason gets along with old people

[Swarles Barkley]

Jason "well we are all very good". Oh the wonderful irony

Thank god that whiny bîtch natalie has gone though