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Premier League 2013/14 Stuff it in here!

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He looked really excited after the goal.

 

so lonely.

 

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Didn't notice that, maybe he was reading lol certainly very much unlike Rooney to not get involved with the celebration.

 

I'm sure Rooney set that goal up and knocked his thigh in the process. So that maybe explains why he didn't run over to celebrate, it's great for the press though.

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Hull haven't got any fans in the top tier by the looks of it. Shocking support for the opening day of the prem.

 

They've sold out.

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Crystal Palace are fvcking shit, would have been more than one goal if Bale played. Soldado looks a good signing for Spurs, the Monday night game should be good, too.

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They only took 1,600 of the tickets apparently. They sold them all, but they could have had up to 3,000 lol.

 

Ohh, I heard Tyler say "they've sold out" and then something along the lines of "away support in the Premier League is good".

 

That wasn't a free kick either which Lampard scored, Chester didn't even touch Torres.

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Niall Quinn was in love with Jedinak in the Palace game, sounded like a proud father every time he mentioned him.

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Sold first allocation, they should be taking the full whack.

 

Yeah sorry, didn't realise they only sound the first lot.

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They only took 1,600 of the tickets apparently. They sold them all, but they could have had up to 3,000 lol.

 

It was £50 a ticket though apparently. Would we have 3000 fans willing to pay that? Maybe, and fair play to those who can afford that but it's certainly out of my price range for one football match.

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It was £50 a ticket though apparently. Would we have 3000 fans willing to pay that? Maybe, and fair play to those who can afford that but it's certainly out of my price range for one football match.

 

I think we would, first day of the Premier League season.

 

Our context is different though; we're a bigger club in terms of away following and we've been out of the Premier League for a decade.

 

You could give us 5,000 at Old Trafford on a Sunday when on Sky at £50 a ticket and we'd probably sell out.

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I think we would, first day of the Premier League season.

 

Our context is different though; we're a bigger club in terms of away following and we've been out of the Premier League for a decade.

 

You could give us 5,000 at Old Trafford on a Sunday when on Sky at £50 a ticket and we'd probably sell out.

 

Hopefully we'll get the opportunity find out in the not too distant future!

 

We need to be ready when it happens though, watching Hull and Palace to an extent today makes me realise how miserable watching your team getting battered every week can be although they have both been handed very tough opening fixtures.

 

On a sidenote, looking at that Chelsea physio, I wonder how many regularly report in with groin strains!

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Hopefully we'll get the opportunity find out in the not too distant future!

 

We need to be ready when it happens though, watching Hull and Palace to an extent today makes me realise how miserable watching your team getting battered every week can be although they have both been handed very tough opening fixtures.

 

On a sidenote, looking at that Chelsea physio, I wonder how many regularly report in with groin strains!

Lookiing at our squad and the standard of the premiership (even though its declined somewhat), I get the feeling we would have been whipping boys, as strange as it sounds I'm actually kind of glad we didn't go up.

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Lookiing at our squad and the standard of the premiership (even though its declined somewhat), I get the feeling we would have been whipping boys, as strange as it sounds I'm actually kind of glad we didn't go up.

 

We would have the opportunity to strengthen our squad, we obviously wouldn't start the season with this squad if we had been promoted. 

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Lookiing at our squad and the standard of the premiership (even though its declined somewhat), I get the feeling we would have been whipping boys, as strange as it sounds I'm actually kind of glad we didn't go up.

That's the thing, I don't think many actually grasp this.

 

If and when we do go up the best thing about it will be that day. The instant feelings of joy with success. But once you've calmed down and looked at it, your next season and any other after it assuming we stayed up would consist of us paying extortionate amounts of money to see us get whipped by most teams every week, far less often on a Saturday at 3pm than last season. Shitty Sunday and Monday kick off times etc. We moan about some ticket prices to see Championship matches, you wait til it's Arsenal, Spurs Chelsea, Man Utd and Citeh away

 

Going up will be the best short term buzz followed by months of realising it's not all its cracked up to be. Unfortunately being in the PL is a necessary evil what with the financial gains of it.

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Whilst I agree to an extent teams like Norwich and Swansea have proved it is easier to stay up...

 

Of the 3 Cardiff are probably the ones who need to stay up the most as they have spent an awful of money for a promoted side (like Southampton did I guess)

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Whilst I agree to an extent teams like Norwich and Swansea have proved it is easier to stay up...

 

Of the 3 Cardiff are probably the ones who need to stay up the most as they have spent an awful of money for a promoted side (like Southampton did I guess)

Yeh they've now become established premiership sides, but now what? There's nowhere for them to progress to. I know swansea are the cup holders but anyone can win the cup without being in the PL.

I'm just saying I don't think its all its cracked up to be.

Of the 3 teams this season coming up Cardiff must be the best bet on staying up. It'd be hars to get much worse than hull and palace on todays showing

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Lookiing at our squad and the standard of the premiership (even though its declined somewhat), I get the feeling we would have been whipping boys, as strange as it sounds I'm actually kind of glad we didn't go up.

 

We'd strengthen no doubt, and we'd struggle, I reckon our home form would be quite good, away would be a different matter.

 

Hull went up scoring 61 goals and losing 15 games. Palace won one of their last 10 or something and failed to score in six straight games at one point. You'd expect the teams that go up this year to be a better quality.

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Yeh they've now become established premiership sides, but now what? There's nowhere for them to progress to. I know swansea are the cup holders but anyone can win the cup without being in the PL.

I'm just saying I don't think its all its cracked up to be.

Of the 3 teams this season coming up Cardiff must be the best bet on staying up. It'd be hars to get much worse than hull and palace on todays showing

 

Have to disagree with you massively on this, Now they get to play in the best league in the country if not the world against some of the top top players, challenge for Europa League and continue to progress.

 

Or they could just relegate themselves to Championship football every year fighting for a top six finish and watching average players perform week in week out.

 

I would take the seasons we have been in the Prem over the last 10 years in championship every day of the week.

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Yeh they've now become established premiership sides, but now what? There's nowhere for them to progress to. I know swansea are the cup holders but anyone can win the cup without being in the PL.

I'm just saying I don't think its all its cracked up to be.

 

Yes - that is true.

 

You cannot progress too much more and actually its a shame teams do seem to by pass the chance of cup success for coming 13th rather than 15th but money talks I guess.

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The one to Welback was brilliant he lost his man and slide the ball through. Welbeck had work to do but it was put in the perfect place to where Welbeck was placed. Plus to take away the assist for Van Persie goal is silly, his running allowed Van Persie the space to turn and score. It was very intelligent play by Rooney in both cases, I suppose you are just one of those who can only watch the ball rather than the movement off it.

The player that was on Van Persie didn't even clock Rooney's run and instead tre to get the ball off RVP who shimmied and smashed it in from 20 yards, I'm just saying I wouldn't class that as an assist really.

And you don't have a clue why sort of person I am so leave it out ;)

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We probably would be the whipping boys, I mean Hull looked poor, but if we were to get relegated at least we'd be financially secure. One of my mates supports Hull and he said even if they go down at least they'll be healthy, which is actually true.


 


Sadly though money and the Premier League has ruined football. I mean, if you stay up (like Norwich, Southampton etc) then what? You'll never win the league itself so you're just competing for the FA Cup and League Cup. It's not bad though, I mean, I'd take that over the football league.


 


The attendance debate always crops up but is always boring. Hull City arn't exactly a massive club, they are more of a rugby City anyway, and at £50 (maybe even more) on a Sunday afternoon horrible kick off, I wouldn't expect them to take many. Sky don't really care. Tomorrow night; Newcastle will fill it because they always do, but a journey from Newcastle to Manchester and then back on a Monday night is horrible.


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I think the early signs of FFP suggest that Premiership / Championship teams are going to be split largely into three groups:

  1. Long standing Premier League teams
  2. "Yo-yo" teams
  3. Long standing Championship teams

I think that FFP is going to create a fairly rigid group of yo-yo teams (maybe 9 or 10 teams after a few seasons) who aren't quite good enough to establish themselves long-term in the Premiership, but will have too much money and too much of an advantage in the Championship due to parachute payments to stay down there for long. The challenge for us is to get from category 3 to 2 as soon as possible otherwise promotion will become harder and harder as the seasons pass by and that group of yo-yo clubs becomes bigger.

 

Also while I agree the Premiership seasons have the potential to be as miserable as sin, at least a few ups and downs would be considerably more interesting than in the Championship season after season.

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Have to disagree with you massively on this, Now they get to play in the best league in the country if not the world against some of the top top players, challenge for Europa League and continue to progress.

 

Or they could just relegate themselves to Championship football every year fighting for a top six finish and watching average players perform week in week out.

 

I would take the seasons we have been in the Prem over the last 10 years in championship every day of the week.

Yes but football clubs want success and fans want their teams to be successful. A playoff final win would be the highlight of winning promotion more so than playing in the premiership. This may not be true for the first season which visiting half of these grounds wouod be a novelty for me having not followed city away last time we were preniership. But after that first season assuming we stayed up the novelty would soon wear off particularly if you dont have a bottomless bank balance.

If striving to finish in the Europa league places is the highest realistic target once youre established in the premiership is the only thing you've got to look forward to as a fan it'd probably be easier going for the cups as the route into Europe.

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I'm not sure I agree that we'd be cannon fodder, though I think we'd be very fortunate to replicate the likes of Swansea, Norwich and West Brom.

 

The Thais have thrown a lot at turning us into a Premier League club, and I think they'd want us to stay there as long as possible so as to build our popularity in their domestic market. Whether we like it or not, few people outside of England give a damn about anything outside the Premier League. This is why our games aren't broadcast so regularly, if at all, in Thailand any more. The Thai people probably haven't even heard of Yeovil and Barnsley, let alone harbour a burning desire to see Leicester play against them. 

 

If we are promoted though, it'll be Leicester v Manchester United/Arsenal/Chelsea and the Thai public will be interested. This'll be the money spinner for Vichai and Top and that's why they've lobbed money at us. Therefore, they'd want us to have rather more than a one season cameo in the top flight. They'd want Leicester City to be an established Premier League name and a household name in Bangkok and Pattaya. 

 

In short, Pearson's transfer budget would probably match Cardiff's if we were to be promoted. 

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