Aus Fox Posted 17 August 2013 Posted 17 August 2013 He clearly doesn't know his best side. He's added two players and had the whole summer to work it out. Starting to lose optimism. Different qualities are required to beat different sides, if he picked the same 11 every week you would say no plan b always picks his favourites etc. give the bloke a chance...
Lambert09 Posted 17 August 2013 Posted 17 August 2013 Good to see Nigel is trying different things. Got to say though I don't trust schlupp at lb at the best of times, considering he's had very little game time recently It's a disaster waiting to happen
kingfox Posted 17 August 2013 Posted 17 August 2013 On a needs basis, he picked the right team and formation to beat Boro, this is what he feels will exploit Derby, he is doing everything people criticised him for not doing last season and still gets the moaners. 4-3-3 is shit, and hardly ever works, always turns into 4-5-1, and if Derby maintain possession today it will turn into 4-5-1, Wood will get isolated and we will struggle, because it always happens when we use this formation. You seen it in the second half against Monaco in pre season, yes it was Monaco, but Waghorn was basically played up front on his own, and did bugger all. It's the fact we are playing two strikers out wide as well, not Dyer, Schlupp or Knockaert, but Vardy and Nugent. Like I said if it works then great, but I wouldn't be surprised if this turns into a nightmare.
NewquayFox Posted 17 August 2013 Posted 17 August 2013 Great attacking line up, Rams to the slaughter.... ;0)
Aus Fox Posted 17 August 2013 Posted 17 August 2013 4-3-3 is shit, and hardly ever works, always turns into 4-5-1, and if Derby maintain possession today it will turn into 4-5-1, Wood will get isolated and we will struggle, because it always happens when we use this formation. You seen it in the second half against Monaco in pre season, yes it was Monaco, but Waghorn was basically played up front on his own, and did bugger all. It's the fact we are playing two strikers out wide as well, not Dyer, Schlupp or Knockaert, but Vardy and Nugent. Like I said if it works then great, but I wouldn't be surprised if this turns into a nightmare. Why so negitive before a ball has even been kicked? Talking about a friendly with a top European side as a reason this wont work makes you sound like an idiot. Can't we have one game were we actually get behind the side not slag them off before we start.
cc_star Posted 17 August 2013 Posted 17 August 2013 What's the story with Knockaert? If there is one Pearson said wasn't mentally ready to be in the squad then against Leeds he was embarrassing falling over all the time. Not sure where we go from there Personally I don't understand the general love-in he gets. If we're well on top in games, his flourishes are fantastic and he looks like he could play for Arsenal or Barca, but if we're not he's almost a liability.
kingfox Posted 17 August 2013 Posted 17 August 2013 Why so negitive before a ball has even been kicked? Talking about a friendly with a top European side as a reason this wont work makes you sound like an idiot. Can't we have one game were we actually get behind the side not slag them off before we start. Because 4-3-3, usually turns into 4-5-1 whenever we play it. Usually happens, and when used at the KP in past season's under Pearson, it's been very very frustrating to watch. Not being negative, it's a fact.
lgfualol Posted 17 August 2013 Posted 17 August 2013 Pearson said wasn't mentally ready to be in the squad then against Leeds he was embarrassing falling over once Not sure where we go from there Personally I don't understand the general love-in he gets. If we're well on top in games, his flourishes are fantastic and he looks like he could play for Arsenal or Barca, but if we're not he's almost a liability.
Aus Fox Posted 17 August 2013 Posted 17 August 2013 Because 4-3-3, usually turns into 4-5-1 whenever we play it. Usually happens, and when used at the KP in past season's under Pearson, it's been very very frustrating to watch. Not being negative, it's a fact. Pretty sure that's an opinion not a fact, search for the definition of fact.
cc_star Posted 17 August 2013 Posted 17 August 2013 4-3-3 is shit, and hardly ever works, always turns in to 4-5-1, and if Derby maintain possession today it will turn into 4-5-1, Wood will get isolated and we will struggle, because it always happens when we use this formation. You seen it in the second half against Monaco in pre season, yes it was Monaco, but Waghorn was basically played up front on his own, and did bugger all. It's the fact we are playing two strikers out wide as well, not Dyer, Schlupp or Knockaert, but Vardy and Nugent. Like I said if it works then great, but I wouldn't be surprised if this turns into a nightmare. What do you mean playing 2 strikers out wide, it's 433, they're hardly hogging the touchline but instead supposed to be working the channels & supporting the front. Personally think we should continue with 352, with Konch out it should work better... If not we have the personnel to play 442, or 4231. I'm also not a fan of 433. Anyway, it's all about our tempo & how we apply ourselves with effort & enthusiasm. If we do, we'll win. If not we'll get beaten.
sphericalfox Posted 17 August 2013 Posted 17 August 2013 Leicester City â€@OfficialFOXES1m Shakey confirms a 4-3-3: "We wanted a bit more going forward, a bit more creativity. Schlupp has been patient, happy to play LB."
Strokes Posted 17 August 2013 Posted 17 August 2013 Pretty sure that's an opinion not a fact, search for the definition of fact.Crikey, you got out the wrong side of the bed today. Whats up grumpy bum?
Ric Flair Posted 17 August 2013 Posted 17 August 2013 Bizarre line-up but at least there's a bit more firepower in there. We've never been any good when any of our strikers have had to play out wide and there's still no real creativity but perhaps a long ball will eventually fall to one of the front three and we'll get a shot registered before we have to bring Knockaert on. Sick and tired of Pearson's inability to see the blatant weakness when either Knockaert or Marshall don't play. Big game for Matty James, he's carrying an injury and yet he's continued to be picked, hope he can get in the game and dictate play.
AKCJ Posted 17 August 2013 Posted 17 August 2013 Different qualities are required to beat different sides, if he picked the same 11 every week you would say no plan b always picks his favourites etc. give the bloke a chance... This is our 4th game now and he's played about 5 formations. I'm not suggesting we should play the same 11 every week whatsoever. Only that we havn't played anything close to well and results have glossed over our poor performances. If he doesn't get his act together then we'll probably get found out very quickly. The bloke has had his chance. He's had all summer to settle down the same side not to mention 2 years previous.
Foxymcoxy Posted 17 August 2013 Posted 17 August 2013 If we are playing 4-3-3 I would have preferred to see Vardy on the left and Marshall or Knockaert on the right. Still not convinced of these 3 together in the middle either but there are some encouraging signs I guess...
whoareyaaa Posted 17 August 2013 Posted 17 August 2013 Interesting line up today, happy with that will be interesting to see how the front 3 link up. Moaners will moan.
ScouseFox Posted 17 August 2013 Posted 17 August 2013 Did Shakespeare really say "we wanted more creativity going forward" after leaving Knockaert on the bench?! Is he a retard?
kingfox Posted 17 August 2013 Posted 17 August 2013 What do you mean playing 2 strikers out wide, it's 433, they're hardly hogging the touchline but instead supposed to be working the channels & supporting the front. Personally think we should continue with 352, with Konch out it should work better... If not we have the personnel to play 442, or 4231. I'm also not a fan of 433. Anyway, it's all about our tempo & how we apply ourselves with effort & enthusiasm. If we do, we'll win. If not we'll get beaten. We have seen Nugent played out wide before, and he has performed poorly. Vardy might do a bit better because of his pace. We won away from home using 3-5-2, so why change it, and if we wanted to go 4-3-3 why isn't he playing Dyer or Knocky instead. Doesn't make sense to me, but like I said if it works then great. I'm gonna shut up until kick off anyway, because I'm not going to sit here clogging this thread up.
Bilbo Posted 17 August 2013 Posted 17 August 2013 Moan, moan, moan, moan and we haven't even kicked off yet.
Bagworthblue Posted 17 August 2013 Posted 17 August 2013 Derby play 3 up front and have pace on the flanks - bit dangerous to play 3 at the back today which is why I assume he is playing 4 at the back with pace at LB and RB although Konch not on bench so either ill, injured or on his way (for a haircut).
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