Dylan Posted 28 August 2013 Posted 28 August 2013 From what it sounds, as the player didn't even receive treatment he can't have been that hurt and Birmingham have just kicked it out to waste time and kill the game. Don't think Yeovil were wrong to then carry on and score (as the injury wasn't genuine). They made themselves look stupid though after by letting them score after going up.
Harry - LCFC Posted 28 August 2013 Posted 28 August 2013 Bit off topic here but if players are found to be faking an injury to waste time they should be booked for it. No better than goalkeepers dawdling on goal kicks.
Craig Posted 28 August 2013 Posted 28 August 2013 All the more funnier because of their time wasting at our place on Saturday.
leicesterisme Posted 28 August 2013 Posted 28 August 2013 Not surprised it was Dan Burn down by the sounds of it trying to feign an injury. On Saturday he spent 90 minutes screaming at the ref anytime one our players went near him, absolute willy puller.
Super_horns Posted 28 August 2013 Posted 28 August 2013 BTW Lee Clarke talks about respect and sportsmanship. Isn't he the guy who whilst a Sunderland player wore a Newcastle shirt slagging his own club off when Newcastle played at Wembley? Pot kettle and black come to mind.
ScouseFox Posted 28 August 2013 Posted 28 August 2013 Shouldn't have given them a goal back, Yeovil did nothing wrong.
Danizen Posted 28 August 2013 Posted 28 August 2013 If a players goes down injured it's the refs jobs to make sure time is added on. Yeolvil knew they had done wrong hence the goal in ET. Justice was done. The one tiny bit of sportsmanship left in the game and people want to remove it? I don't want to see that kind of sportsmanship go out the game, of course not but it will do if teams like Birmingham seek to exploit it to their own advantage. Yeovil were right to score and Birmingham should have gone out.
Captain... Posted 28 August 2013 Posted 28 August 2013 If a players goes down injured it's the refs jobs to make sure time is added on. Yeolvil knew they had done wrong hence the goal in ET. Justice was done. The one tiny bit of sportsmanship left in the game and people want to remove it? Disagree with you here Matt. We all know what would have happened if Yeovil had thrown it back to the keeper, he would have controlled it with his feet waited until he got closed down then booted it as far as possible. Yeovil players would have got stick if they closed him down quickly. Alternatively Yeovil could have booted it out of play for a goal kick then the keeper would have ambled over to get the ball, ambled back to the far side of the box, then taken as long as possible over the kick. Either way the ball would be miles away and a few minutes would have been wasted. Birmingham are a dirty cynical team, they knew what they were doing. I don't agree with calling it sportsmanship to just let them get away with it. It is called being a mug.
Guest MattP Posted 28 August 2013 Posted 28 August 2013 You must both be watching different pictures to me, he did look tired from what I could see and looked like he was genuinely hurt, hence he didn't even run back when Yeovil decided to launch a sneaky attack down the wing. If this was the other way round and Birmingham had done it to little Yeovil I think a lot of people may just have a different opinion. If the keeper kicks it out of play the ref should stop his watch and not restart it until he has kicked it back out properly, solves the problem then.
ADK Posted 28 August 2013 Posted 28 August 2013 Yeovil shouldn't have done that really although I can see why they might have been annoyed.
Wycombe Fox Posted 28 August 2013 Posted 28 August 2013 I really dislike the 'kicking the ball out of play' scenario as it creates too much of a grey area. As far as I'm concerned (and it's probably in the Laws of the Game) it's up to the ref to decide whether a player is sufficiently injured to warrant stopping the game for treatment, with the restart by virtue of a good, old-fashioned competitive drop-ball. With regard to the timewasting, have a timekeeping official and when no actual play is taking place, stop the clock. It would help put an end to feigning unjury, late substitutions of players who are on the opposite side of the pitch who then walk slowly over to the touchline etc Give the fans a full 90 minutes of football rather than 65 plus 25 minutes of fannying about.
Finnegan Posted 28 August 2013 Posted 28 August 2013 If a players goes down injured it's the refs jobs to make sure time is added on. Yeolvil knew they had done wrong hence the goal in ET. Justice was done. The one tiny bit of sportsmanship left in the game and people want to remove it? You want to reward cheating with sportsmanship? Don't be soft.
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 28 August 2013 Posted 28 August 2013 Is it just me that think this was a time wasting ploy from Birmingham?
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 28 August 2013 Posted 28 August 2013 Yeovil shouldn't have given the goal back. Should have taken the win and let it be a lesson to pathetic, time wasting, cheating *****. Brum have blagged their way through and have no right to be angry. We complain all the time about footballers diving, faking injury, time wasting and generally being puffs yet people want to be outraged at Yeovil here? Fvck off. If the Brum player was properly hurt and had to go off? Fair play. Otherwise sod em. Ah, knew I could rely on you.
Finnegan Posted 28 August 2013 Posted 28 August 2013 Ah, knew I could rely on you. Rowan Vine is a fcking donkey.
Guest MattP Posted 28 August 2013 Posted 28 August 2013 You want to reward cheating with sportsmanship? Don't be soft. No. I think if a player is genuinely injured he has the right to go down and be treated. Surprised at you, for a guy who usually wants all the evidence in the World to condemn someone as having donw wrong you have been pretty clear to label this as cheating, the video evidence I can see is very inconclusive.
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 28 August 2013 Posted 28 August 2013 Rowan Vine is a fcking donkey. Going to be a long, long season for our boys.
Finnegan Posted 28 August 2013 Posted 28 August 2013 No. I think if a player is genuinely injured he has the right to go down and be treated. Surprised at you, for a guy who usually wants all the evidence in the World to condemn someone as having donw wrong you have been pretty clear to label this as cheating, the video evidence I can see is very inconclusive. If you don't require a stretcher or immediate medical attention to your head there's **** all wrong with you. Maybe it's my inner rugby fan but seriously. And yeah, I can't see where goals are coming from for Hibs this season.
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 28 August 2013 Posted 28 August 2013 It's been downhill since they got rid of Le Coq Sportif!
Mark_w Posted 28 August 2013 Posted 28 August 2013 I could understand Yeovil giving Birmingham the goal back straight away. I could understand Yeovil not giving them a goal and going through. I can't for the life of me understand why they'd let Brum score when they did, did they honestly think that it was going to make them look good? All Yeovil accomplished is making themselves look bad and ensuring that they aren't going to be in the next round, I honestly don't think they could have done a worse job.
MrSpaM Posted 29 August 2013 Posted 29 August 2013 Happend before, think it was arsenal vs sheff united. The game was called off that time and it went to a re-match.
Manwell Pablo Posted 29 August 2013 Posted 29 August 2013 Funny situation for me, on Yeovil's actions I am with Mark, going on to give them the goal back is basically an admission that they had done wrong and the fact that they waited until they had taken a lead in the game just makes them look very very stupid. On whether they had done it in the first place, I don't know really, you can call time wasting cheating but unfortunately it's more gamesmanship that is tolerated in the game of football, much as I dislike it. Taking a quick throw and scoring when you're fully aware your opponents are expecting the ball back to their keeper is sneaky and under handed. If they had made it clear they weren't giving the ball back to Birmingham and given them a few seconds to regain something resembling a shape I might say fair enough but to take advantage of the situation like doesn't sit well with me.
AyewJoking Posted 29 August 2013 Posted 29 August 2013 Yeovil were ok to score, bit naughty but thats the game for you. Brum didnt have to kick the ball out. their player didnt need treatment. surprised Brum want the cup distraction anyway, wouldve thought theyd be prioritising promotion.
Captain... Posted 29 August 2013 Posted 29 August 2013 Happend before, think it was arsenal vs sheff united. The game was called off that time and it went to a re-match. Difference with that one was it was very much the culture back then to kick the ball out if someone has broke a nail, and get it back. Now players have been told it is not up to them and to leave it to the ref to stop the game. That happened because people took the piss and started abusing that unwritten rule to time waste. You cannot kick the ball out and expect it back, that is not in the laws of the game and I'm pissed off at Yeovil for giving the goal back and making the debate all about how stupid they are and not making sure that every player in every league knows that you cannot expect the ball back if you kick it out of play.
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