Jace Posted 30 August 2013 Posted 30 August 2013 Sour grapes from Brighton fans? Its strange how bitter and bitchy they can be sometimes
SmithyFox12 Posted 30 August 2013 Posted 30 August 2013 Liking the idea of a midfield three being King, James and Hammond.
Greatness_Since_1884 Posted 30 August 2013 Posted 30 August 2013 Points towards a midfield 3 this season
lgfualol Posted 30 August 2013 Posted 30 August 2013 Woo, a signing! Haha Brighton, play-off hopefuls haha. haha haha
theessexfox Posted 30 August 2013 Posted 30 August 2013 -------------------------------------------Kasper----------------------------------------------- RDL-------------------------Moore--------------Morgan--------------------------Bakayogo ------------------------------------------Hammond------------------------------------------ -----------------------------King------------------------James--------------------------------- ----------------------------------------Knockaert---------------------------------------------- ----------------------------Nugent------------------Vardy------------------------------------ Just a suggestion.
Tielemans63 Posted 30 August 2013 Posted 30 August 2013 Its strange how bitter and bitchy they can be sometimes I really hope you meant that joke Jace!
Fox42 Posted 30 August 2013 Posted 30 August 2013 Hammond's nicked Marshall's #7 shirt. Why does Pearson have a habit of immediately replacing a player's shirt number that has recently departed with a new signing? Doesn't like dwelling on the past one bit?
kingfox Posted 30 August 2013 Posted 30 August 2013 Personally I don't see where he fits, if we are going to go three across midfield, at the minute with James, King and Drinkwater that is a pretty negative approach, replace Drinkwater with Hammond who is even more defensive the midfield set up still remains negative. I honestly expected to see an attacking minded central midfielder come in. This lad played the majority of games for Brighton last season, so realistically he will want to start. So hopefully this means Danns will be shipped out either permanently or loan, but then we still have Drinkwater, is he going as well, or he will become one of those players who get's frustrated and wants game time. I still hope Pearson, has one more signing in his locker, but attacking minded. A player like Hammond will be useful in some games, but I wouldn't start him as a regular.
Stadt Posted 30 August 2013 Posted 30 August 2013 Sour grapes from Brighton fans?Have we not learnt our lesson from the Sousa or Mills situation?
Tielemans63 Posted 30 August 2013 Posted 30 August 2013 Have we not learnt our lesson from the Sousa or Mills situation? Good point!
Mark_w Posted 30 August 2013 Posted 30 August 2013 Personally I don't see where he fits, if we are going to go three across midfield, at the minute with James, King and Drinkwater that is a pretty negative approach, replace Drinkwater with Hammond who is even more defensive the midfield set up still remains negative. Perhaps with the more defensive Hammond in a three/four man midfield, Pearson would be happier playing Knockaert in behind the strikers?
muzzy1981 Posted 30 August 2013 Posted 30 August 2013 It will be pretty harsh if drinky automaticailly loses his place, hammond like all our players will need to prove he is better. We are joint top of the league. I just hope that we rotate players a bit more this season. and don't over play some and freeze others out
Jimothy Posted 30 August 2013 Author Posted 30 August 2013 Personally I don't see where he fits, if we are going to go three across midfield, at the minute with James, King and Drinkwater that is a pretty negative approach, replace Drinkwater with Hammond who is even more defensive the midfield set up still remains negative. I honestly expected to see an attacking minded central midfielder come in. This lad played the majority of games for Brighton last season, so realistically he will want to start. So hopefully this means Danns will be shipped out either permanently or loan, but then we still have Drinkwater, is he going as well, or he will become one of those players who get's frustrated and wants game time. I still hope Pearson, has one more signing in his locker, but attacking minded. A player like Hammond will be useful in some games, but I wouldn't start him as a regular. So like tennis, football is another sport you seem to know nothing about about. A more defensive minded player will allow others to attack more, or the manager to pick more attack minded players. Whilst none of Drinkwater, King or James are full out and out attacking midfielders, they aren't naturally sitting ones either. So to fulfill their defensive requirements they all feel they have to chip, meaning none of them really attack as much as you would like from a 3 man midfield. By playing a player who is happy to just sit in front of the back 4 it then gives the others licence to attack, or it give Pearson the option of starting Knockaert. He wouldn't have dared start Knockaert with two of Drinkwater, King or James because he knows for those three to work as midfield 3 all of them have to chip in defensively, and Knockaert wouldn't. Now Hammond will happily sit in that role he'll be more happy for Knockaert to run rampage at the other end. It's commonly called the Makelele roll and was a major reason why Lampard banged in 20 odd goals most seasons a few years back.
kingfox Posted 30 August 2013 Posted 30 August 2013 Perhaps with the more defensive Hammond in a three/four man midfield, Pearson would be happier playing Knockaert in behind the strikers? I'm trying not to sound negative, but with a defensive midfielder and with the midfielders we currently have, there is no need for him to play every week, yet in the Championship and League 1 for Southampton, he was playing week in week out, and same for Brighton last season, would he be happy on the bench? The only way I can see us getting quite a bit of game time out of him, is if we go with the formation Essex suggested. But there we go again, it's another change in formation again, we have tried 3-5-2, 4-3-3 & 4-4-2. Personally 4-3-3 is not a formation we should adopt so scrap mentioning that altogether. He could start in a 3-5-2, but with Hammond-King-James as a midfield three sometimes it will look negative especially if we start it against teams, we should really be going out and beating comfortably and should be attacked. 4-4-2 in the past two games has looked effective, Dyer has been instrumental in the last two games, does he deserved to be dropped, just because we are changing formation again, and if we do go 4-4-2, we will more than likely start with James and King, where does that leave Hammond and Drinkwater? Then that leaves the formation Essex suggested, which will probably be our best bet, if we are to play him regularly. But will Pearson actually think of playing that formation, does he want to change formation again, it's early in the season, but we have played five matches, and yet it seems he doesn't know what the best formation is, home and away. We will see, but the concerning thing from my point of view is two things, due to him being more of a defensive midfielder, I just can't see the point of him starting week in week out, but as he played the majority of games for Brighton last season, will he be happy on the bench? And if we decide to go 4-4-2, where does that leave him and Drinkwater, because two central midfielders left out of the team, one probably won't be on the bench, could leave to that player getting frustrated.
Bettsj2 Posted 30 August 2013 Posted 30 August 2013 When are people going to realise that we CANT sign anyone permanantly because of FFP. We're so in the shi.....oh no hang on.
foxfanazer Posted 30 August 2013 Posted 30 August 2013 Suprised that a few haven't heard of him. Great signing imo
fazzyfox Posted 30 August 2013 Posted 30 August 2013 Hope that in a game some time he tries to chip a keeper who reacts with an overly dramatic tip over the bar, so we hear the commentary:- "Hammond chips, the keeper makes a meal out of it"
Guest MattP Posted 30 August 2013 Posted 30 August 2013 Strong, captain, good passer, solid, dependable, been promoted recently from this league.
Sharpe's Fox Posted 30 August 2013 Posted 30 August 2013 A lot of people wanted a CDM for the second part of the season in January. Now we have one. However I struggle to see, like Kingfox, where he will fit in to the squad, especially as none of us knows what formation we will play each week. Will he play in a 4-4-2 in away games allowing more midfielders and full backs to get forward? As part as a three linking up the defence and midfield and sitting? I do, though, see him being invaluable against teams like Watford, Reading and Bolton as I see him stifling their main creative midfielders to use Abdi, Drenthe and Eagles as respective examples.
kingfox Posted 30 August 2013 Posted 30 August 2013 So like tennis, football is another sport you seem to know nothing about about. A more defensive minded player will allow others to attack more, or the manager to pick more attack minded players. Whilst none of Drinkwater, King or James are full out and out attacking midfielders, they aren't naturally sitting ones either. So to fulfill their defensive requirements they all feel they have to chip, meaning none of them really attack as much as you would like from a 3 man midfield. By playing a player who is happy to just sit in front of the back 4 it then gives the others licence to attack, or it give Pearson the option of starting Knockaert. He wouldn't have dared start Knockaert with two of Drinkwater, King or James because he knows for those three to work as midfield 3 all of them have to chip in defensively, and Knockaert wouldn't. Now Hammond will happily sit in that role he'll be more happy for Knockaert to run rampage at the other end. It's commonly called the Makelele roll and was a major reason why Lampard banged in 20 odd goals most seasons a few years back. Nahhhhh. You are suggesting and explaining basically the formation Essex put up. And as I've explained above, I agree that, that formation should be played, if Hammond is to play regularly. But you are basically saying, that is going to be the formation Pearson will play from now on, you don't know that, the whole Leicester City fanbase don't know that, until Hammond plays his first game, and if it is to be that formation, then jackpot, amazeballs!!! But I'm trying to explain, with the formations we have played already, where does he fit in those, 4-3-3 is a useless formation, and we had to change that at half time against Birmingham, and we scrapped it in midweek in the cup, and went 4-4-2. But like I said lad, 4-4-2 has looked good in the last two games, but that means if we play that formation, two central midfielders will be left out, and in my opinion that doesn't look great, plus Dyer has been brilliant the past two games, does he deserve to be dropped just because we are changing formation again, because the only way to play him is in a 4-4-2.
NGoloMode Posted 30 August 2013 Posted 30 August 2013 Saints fans are very fond of him. http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?46555-Dean-Hammond-signs-for-Leicester-City#.UiEpLBt9CSo
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