Rocket-Ron Posted 13 November 2014 Posted 13 November 2014 FIFA report wrong http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30037729
Maybes Posted 13 November 2014 Posted 13 November 2014 "Qatar were subsequently accused of paying Fifa officials £3m to secure backing for its bid. However, they have now been cleared of wrongdoing, although the report said that there were "certain indications of potentially problematic conduct of specific individuals". It concluded that payments by former Fifa vice-president Mohamed bin Hammam were judged to be for the disgraced Qatari's personal political interests, not the 2022 bid." Are you fvcking joking ?? And they then point the figure at us... Sponsoring a gala dinner for the Caribbean Football Union, at a cost of $55,000, around £35,000 lol FVCK FIFA.
RowlattsFox Posted 13 November 2014 Posted 13 November 2014 Would be good if there could be some sort of organised protest at Wembley on Saturday. But thats probably the least likely thing to happen ever.
Super_horns Posted 13 November 2014 Posted 13 November 2014 Where else would an organisation be allowed to conduct their own investigation into such serious allegations? Wouldn't surprise me if they decide to punish England/The FA now..
babylad92 Posted 13 November 2014 Posted 13 November 2014 fifa are trojan forces of corruption qatar is a cockfest i woudnt go there even if i was the best looking cherry in town no point in going to a place full of men
Fox92 Posted 13 November 2014 Posted 13 November 2014 Where else would an organisation be allowed to conduct their own investigation into such serious allegations? Wouldn't surprise me if they decide to punish England/The FA now.. I'd probably say so considering they seem to hate us anyway!
Leicesterpool Posted 13 November 2014 Posted 13 November 2014 Where else would an organisation be allowed to conduct their own investigation into such serious allegations? Wouldn't surprise me if they decide to punish England/The FA now.. They already do
Dan Posted 13 November 2014 Author Posted 13 November 2014 I hope they do punish us as it moves us that bit closer to wanting to pull out of it all.
davieG Posted 13 November 2014 Posted 13 November 2014 Football = a world full off corruption. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30039419
foxoffderby Posted 13 November 2014 Posted 13 November 2014 Only FIFA could pulish such a shite report that it criticised England on sone minor issue because we fully co-operate, but completely overlook millions in Bribes paid by Qatari businessmen who did not speak to the enquiry at all, on the basis of a statement that he was not involved in the bid. Any other organisation would be ****ing ashamed to release such a load of utter bollocks with their name on it. I would fully support England leding a breakaway competiton. FIFA are a ****ing Joke. If we got even 2-3 of the major European nations on board FIFA would be ****ed. totally agree. They've gone too far now and taking the piss. Time to pull out
Nalis Posted 14 November 2014 Posted 14 November 2014 FIFA accusing the FA of corruption is like being accused by the Nazis of breaking the law for jaywalking.
Vacamion Posted 14 November 2014 Posted 14 November 2014 If you think about it, what do we get from our membership of Fifa? Because of the seeding system, we usually play one middling country and a load of small and economically backward countries to qualify. If we win during qualification, we consider that we were always going to win and our press finds reasons to criticize the way we played, or worse concentrates on what Rooney or whoever is doing with his old fellah. If we lose, there is gnashing of teeth at our failure to beat a country with the population of Norfolk or the social and economic development of 1968. When we qualify, we tend to get 3 or 4 games of underwhelming defensive minded underperformance followed by crashing national disappointment. We put up with Fifa, its de facto Life President and all its cash in brown envelopes for THAT? We should walk away, flicking them the middle finger...
bovril Posted 14 November 2014 Posted 14 November 2014 They might as well have written "I know you are but what am I?" on the report.
Merging Cultures Posted 14 November 2014 Posted 14 November 2014 I just signed up on the FA's website to tell them to leave FIFA. Everyone should write to them, sign petitions etc. We need to leave that organisation.
davieG Posted 14 November 2014 Posted 14 November 2014 England and Leicester soccer legend Gary Lineker has called for FIFA - the international football governing body - to be disbanded. The 53-year-old former Foxes striker made the call on Twitter after FIFA found no evidence of any corruption in the world cup bids of Russia and Qatar. A FIFA judge cleared Russia and Qatar of corruption in their winning bids for the 2018 and 2022 World Cups respectively in a report published on Thursday. FIFA ethics judge Hans-Joachim Eckert formally ended an investigation into the bidding contests almost four years after the vote by the governing body's executive committee. No proof of bribes or voting pacts was found in an investigation that was hampered by a lack of access to evidence and uncooperative witnesses. Gary, who host BBC TV’s Match of the Day, tweeted: “If I had one wish for football, it would be that FIFA was disbanded and replaced by a transparent governing body that put its sport first.” The FIFA report heavily criticised England over its bid to host the 2018 tournament. Gary reacted to that with another stinging tweet. He posted: “The FA being slammed for its ethics by FIFA is like being chastised by @GordonRamsay for bad language after uttering the word 'bloody'.” Read more: http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Gary-Lineker-calls-FIFA-disbanded-world-cup/story-24534511-detail/story.html#ixzz3J3RW9s6o Follow us: @Leicester_Merc on Twitter | leicestermercury on Facebook
davieG Posted 14 November 2014 Posted 14 November 2014 Fifa corruption report: Judge 'surprised' at Garcia criticismBy Dan RoanBBC sports editor Ethics judge Hans-Joachim Eckert says he is "surprised" by public criticism from Fifa colleague Michael Garcia over his report into the bidding process for the 2018 and 2022 World Cups. Eckert's report into allegations of corruption was published on Thursday. A few hours later, Garcia, who spent two years investigating the claims of wrongdoing, publicly criticised it. Garcia revealed to the BBC that he did not see Eckert's final report before it was released to the media. Eckert's 42-page document cleared Russia and Qatar of corruption after they were chosen to host the 2018 and 2022 World Cups respectively, but it criticised England of flouting bid rules. Fifa ethics chief Hans-Joachim Eckert "A lot of my report was word for word from the Garcia report." But less than four hours after its publication, Garcia, an American lawyer, issued a statement claiming it was "erroneous". Just what Garcia thinks is wrong in Eckert's report is not yet clear, but he said he intended to appeal to Fifa. Eckert, chairman of the adjudicatory chamber of Fifa's independent ethics committee, responded: "I'm surprised, not shocked. I'm a long time in the job here. I don't think anything surprises me." Play media Jump media player Media player help Out of media player. Press enter to return or tab to continue. Dyke wants Garcia report published He also defended his work. "A lot of my report was word for word from the Garcia report," he said. Garcia's criticism prompted a number of key football figures, among them English Football Association chairman Greg Dyke, to call for his original findings, which are contained in a document that runs to several hundred pages, to be published in full. Those calls were echoed on Friday by Fifa executive committee members Jeffrey Webb and Sunil Gulati. They claim that the "disagreement" between Eckert and Garcia as well as the need for "complete transparency" means the full report should be made public "as soon as possible". They added: "Providing the entire independent report for inspection is in the best interest of the game and Fifa." Despite these pleas, Eckert said he would not take that step. "I don't think that's possible because I have to respect the rights of confidentiality for continental law," said the German. "Maybe it's another thing in the US, but in continental law I can't do it, and I can't do it in total even by the Fifa code of ethics. I will not do it." Following Garcia's statement, Dyke said Fifa's report into World Cup corruption was now pointless and "a joke". Eckert, who said he planned to speak to Garcia later, rejected that claim. Meanwhile, the man who led the technical bid inspections into the 2018 and 2022 World Cups is under investigation by Fifa for allegedly breaching its code of ethics. Harold Maynes Nicholls, a Chilean national who is considering standing against Sepp Blatter in next year's Fifa presidential election, is under scrutiny for his links with a Qatari sporting academy. When there is any accusation from FIFA it seems to always be someone that could challenge Blatter.
potter3 Posted 15 November 2014 Posted 15 November 2014 Germany warns Uefa may quit Fifa if World Cup report not published
davieG Posted 16 November 2014 Posted 16 November 2014 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2836114/FIFA-whistleblowers-break-silence-question-governing-body-prepared-crucified.html Two whistleblowers who provided significant assistance to Michael Garcia’s investigation into alleged corruption in the bid process for the 2018 and 2022 World Cups have voiced their respective ‘rage’ and disappointment at how their evidence was portrayed in FIFA’s 42-page summary of Garcia’s unpublished report. Speaking together publicly for the first time, exclusively to the Mail on Sunday, Bonita Mersiades, a former Australia bid insider, and Phaedra Almajid, who worked on the Qatar 2022 campaign, said the summary by FIFA’s ethics judge, Hans-Joachim Eckert, is a ‘deliberate denigration of two women who have been courageous enough to say something’. Eckert said their evidence was unreliable and inaccurate. But they scoffed at the notion the bid process was uncorrupted. Almajid spoke about her difficult, painful and at times dangerous role as a whistleblower. She also revealed for the first time how she was pressured into retracting previous accusations. +12 Two whistleblowers have slammed FIFA and revealed their 'rage' at how their evidence was portrayed in FIFA's 42-page summary of Michael Garcia's report into alleged corruption in the World Cup bidding process. This picture shows FIFA president Sepp Blatter (right) and the Emir of Qatar, Sheik Hamad bin Khalifa Al-Thani (left) as well as his wife, receiving the trophy after the state was awarded the 2022 competition ‘When it comes to FIFA, be prepared to be crucified, not once or twice but over and over again,’ Almajid said of her experience. ‘Be prepared to suffer and pay for your actions. Be prepared never to feel safe and never to feel you can trust anyone. But most importantly, be ready to be betrayed by those who have promised to protect you.’ Both women provided Garcia with detailed knowledge of the bids they worked on, respectively Australia’s and Qatar’s. Their information was fundamental to Garcia concluding there were indications of ‘problematic conduct’ by both bids. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2836114/FIFA-whistleblowers-break-silence-question-governing-body-prepared-crucified.html#ixzz3JF42yDz0 Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
Nick Posted 16 November 2014 Posted 16 November 2014 I listened to a radio report the night it was announced that Qatar had won their bid....... A fella working over there said the pyrotechnic displays around the country that went off with the announcement would have taken an age to prepare - Qatar knew they had won it long before any other country knew they hadn't...... The whole thing stinks as does FIFA.
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 17 November 2014 Posted 17 November 2014 How can we not pull out of FIFA now? I've not wanted to pull out of something this much since I heard my missus was up the duff.
davieG Posted 17 November 2014 Posted 17 November 2014 World Cup: Former FA chief David Bernstein calls for boycottBy David OrnsteinBBC Sport The English Football Association has been urged to lobby Uefa for a European boycott of the next World Cup - unless Fifa implements meaningful reform. Former FA chairman David Bernstein said it was time for drastic action against football's world governing body. "England on its own cannot influence this," he said. "If we tried something like that, we'd be laughed at." He says a World Cup would be weakened without Europe's top teams and that a boycott would have public backing. "If I was at the FA now, I would do everything I could to encourage other nations within Uefa - and there are some who would definitely be on side, others may be not - to take this line," he added. "At some stage, you have to walk the walk, stop talking and do something." Bernstein said he also wanted Fifa president Sepp Blatter to step down but described him as "formidable, very shrewd, very smart", conceding it would "not be easy" to bring his reign to an end. In an exclusive interview, the 71-year-old also said: Fifa is a "totalitarian" set-up that reminds him of "the old Soviet empire" and is "beyond ridicule" The credibility of football is "suffering enormously" under the current Fifa regime Choosing Qatar to host the 2022 World Cup was "one of the most ludicrous decisions in the history of sport" Bernstein has chosen to speak out after a report into the bidding process for the 2018 and 2022 World Cups cleared Russia and Qatar of wrongdoing but was critical of England, accusing the FA of flouting bid rules in its attempt to win the right to stage the 2018 event. Yet less than four hours of the document's release, it was questioned by Michael Garcua, the man who conducted the two-year investigation into corruption claims. The furore surrounding the report is the latest controversy to hit football's world governing body, which has been riddled with allegations of corruption in recent times. Now Bernstein, who led the FA for three years from January 2011, wants Fifa to change its ways or face a challenge it finds impossible to ignore. When asked again if he was calling for the FA to unite with Uefa to boycott Fifa and the World Cup, he replied: "Unless it (Fifa) could achieve the reforms that would bring Fifa back into the respectable world community, yes I would. "It sounds drastic, but, frankly, this has gone on for years now. It's not improving, it's going from bad to worse to worse." He said there were 54 countries within Uefa and described Germany, Spain, Italy, France and Holland as "all powerful". He added: "You can't hold a serious World Cup without them. They have the power to influence if they have the will." Similar views have been expressed by German Football League president Reinhard Rauball, who suggested Uefa could leave Fifa if the findings of the two-year investigation into corruption claims are not published in full. As for criticism of England by the Fifa report, Bernstein accused football's world governing body of trying to deflect attention from its own failings. "I don't think much to these accusations," he said. "I don't think we should get away from the real issue. The real issue is Fifa governance and trying to achieve real change. But it won't happen easily." "Fifa is sort of a totalitarian set-up. Bits of it remind me of the old Soviet empire. People don't speak out and if they do they get quashed." Play media Jump media player Media player help Out of media player. Press enter to return or tab to continue. Simon Johnson, who led England's 2018 bid, denies Fifa claims that they flouted bid rules Bernstein also described the decision to award the 2022 World Cup to Qatar, where blistering summer temperatures means the event could be switched to winter, "as one of the most ludicrous decisions in the history of sport". He added: "You might as well have chosen Iceland in the winter. It was like an Alice in Wonderland sort of decision. The attempt to change the timing is also absolutely wrong." He felt the decision to choose Qatar as 2022 hosts could come under further scrutiny. "There's also a background of political, social and employment issues that keep emerging and I think there's a danger that Fifa and football might be embarrassed by what emerges in the coming years," said the former Manchester City chairman. "It's certainly not sour grapes. England didn't lose to Qatar, we lost to Russia. Qatar is clearly a totally unsuitable place to hold a World Cup." Bernstein also revealed he had quit Fifa's anti-discrimination taskforce. He described it as "ineffectual" and wishes to end his ties with Fifa. Explaining his decision to quit Fifa's anti-discrimination taskforce, which was introduced in 2013, Bernstein said: "I've resigned for two reasons. "Firstly, the body has been pretty ineffectual. I've been on it for more than a year and we only had one meeting. Secondly, because frankly I don't wish to be personally associated with Fifa any further. "Fifa sets up these things - and we've seen it with their regulation - that look good in theory but don't seem to do very much in practice."
bovril Posted 17 November 2014 Posted 17 November 2014 Bernstein wasn't so quick to speak out against the 'fit and proper' people that have been running Man City since he left. The FA are the most hypocritical fvckers around.
Maybes Posted 17 November 2014 Posted 17 November 2014 Always the ex-chairmen isn't it. I would bet a large amount of money on him not saying that if he was still in the chair. Nothing will happen.
Nalis Posted 17 November 2014 Posted 17 November 2014 The FA will not pull out of FIFA in my lifetime unless FIFA, as a whole, collapse. Feel free to throw this back in my face if I'm wrong.
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