Agent Fox Posted 7 June 2014 Posted 7 June 2014 Be a good chap and keep it to yourself next time yea? It's a forum pal and nice try with the patronisation but you've come across as a plonker. I'm not ashamed of my opinion, I don't feel as if I am wrong. I watched Nugent play a lot last season and he offers nothing that an average forward with a bit of pace couldn't do. He played his part last season but his impact on the team is overestimated in terms of importance within a gameplan, many players can do what he did.
cjslcfc Posted 8 June 2014 Posted 8 June 2014 It's a forum pal and nice try with the patronisation but you've come across as a plonker. I'm not ashamed of my opinion, I don't feel as if I am wrong. I watched Nugent play a lot last season and he offers nothing that an average forward with a bit of pace couldn't do. He played his part last season but his impact on the team is overestimated in terms of importance within a gameplan, many players can do what he did. I'm sure a lot of us watched Nugent play a lot last season. Of course everyone is entitled to an opinion but I just don't get some of the criticism he has had from sections of fans. But this is a thread about Frazier Campbell, not whether Nuge is good/bad, staying/not staying!
MPH Posted 8 June 2014 Posted 8 June 2014 If your Liverpool supporting mate knew anything about Liverpool he would know Bill Shankly's views on Leicester City, one of the most glowing tributes to our club In fact it was the late Bert Johnson ex-england and Leicester lad that Shankly's was referring to when he said " i can take no credit for my tactics here at Liverpool, I owe it all to my friend and mentor Bert Johnson".
MC Prussian Posted 8 June 2014 Posted 8 June 2014 It's a forum pal and nice try with the patronisation but you've come across as a plonker. I'm not ashamed of my opinion, I don't feel as if I am wrong. I watched Nugent play a lot last season and he offers nothing that an average forward with a bit of pace couldn't do. He played his part last season but his impact on the team is overestimated in terms of importance within a gameplan, many players can do what he did. Nugent isn't an "exciting" player to watch, he does what he's supposed to do in rather unspectacular ways. But to deny he was more than average with the amount of goals he scored (yes, penalties do count - you've got to hit them, after all) and in particular the amount of assists he dished in, his impact is underestimated, especially by fans like you who have a different set of expectations. And no, not many players can do what he does.
Rocky Dennis Posted 8 June 2014 Posted 8 June 2014 Amazed at how many people are spelling this lad's name wrong!
Callabinho Posted 8 June 2014 Posted 8 June 2014 It's a forum pal and nice try with the patronisation but you've come across as a plonker. I'm not ashamed of my opinion, I don't feel as if I am wrong. I watched Nugent play a lot last season and he offers nothing that an average forward with a bit of pace couldn't do. He played his part last season but his impact on the team is overestimated in terms of importance within a gameplan, many players can do what he did. Well done, you're are right it is a forum, fantastic observation. We are all allowed opinions yes, and can voice them if we wish, however the majority on here usually have sensible opinions. Slating our top goal scorer....... Plonker.
Babylon Posted 8 June 2014 Posted 8 June 2014 It's a forum pal and nice try with the patronisation but you've come across as a plonker. I'm not ashamed of my opinion, I don't feel as if I am wrong. I watched Nugent play a lot last season and he offers nothing that an average forward with a bit of pace couldn't do. He played his part last season but his impact on the team is overestimated in terms of importance within a gameplan, many players can do what he did. If you had actually watched him you would know he played a different role last year compared to previous ones, or do you think it's a coincidence his goals from open play dropped and his assists went up? As for any average striker could do what he was doing, well he had more assists than any other striker in the league, so perhaps not.
smudger63 Posted 8 June 2014 Posted 8 June 2014 Well done, you're are right it is a forum, fantastic observation. We are all allowed opinions yes, and can voice them if we wish, however the majority on here usually have sensible opinions. Slating our top goal scorer....... Plonker. I'm not saying i agree with agent fox's views on nugent, but for you to come out with " however the majority on here usually have sensible opinions" smacks of arrogance and the belief that only your view or people who share your views can be right.The truth is your views may seem sensible to you and many others, but his views will seem sensible to other people too. Just because someone doesn't share your view doesn't make ther opinion any less worthy.
Babylon Posted 8 June 2014 Posted 8 June 2014 I'm not saying i agree with agent fox's views on nugent, but for you to come out with " however the majority on here usually have sensible opinions" smacks of arrogance and the belief that only your view or people who share your views can be right. The truth is your views may seem sensible to you and many others, but his views will seem sensible to other people too. Just because someone doesn't share your view doesn't make ther opinion any less worthy. What makes his opinion less worthy are facts like top scorer three years running, top assister two out of the last three years, playing a different position this year compared to previous ones.Anyone can have an opinion, doesn't mean people can't rubbish it.
Callabinho Posted 8 June 2014 Posted 8 June 2014 I'm not saying i agree with agent fox's views on nugent, but for you to come out with " however the majority on here usually have sensible opinions" smacks of arrogance and the belief that only your view or people who share your views can be right. The truth is your views may seem sensible to you and many others, but his views will seem sensible to other people too. Just because someone doesn't share your view doesn't make ther opinion any less worthy. "Get rid of Nugent. Overpaid, overestimated, overvalued, overused and crap". This is why his opinions are less worthy.
jock2612 Posted 8 June 2014 Posted 8 June 2014 Think this would be a good signing BUT have just watched the Season DVD and am even more sure that we will need Nuge his work rate and assists won soooooo many points and he wiil be vital!!!
65RosesFox Posted 8 June 2014 Posted 8 June 2014 Hope he shows more promuse than the last Campbell we had here!! That's a little harsh, I thought Kevin did well when he was on loan here....
smudger63 Posted 8 June 2014 Posted 8 June 2014 What makes his opinion less worthy are facts like top scorer three years running, top assister two out of the last three years, playing a different position this year compared to previous ones. Anyone can have an opinion, doesn't mean people can't rubbish it. There will be opinions that you and everyone else has, that not everyone is likely to agree with, but you are still entitled to that opinion.The fact he has a different opinion about nugent to you, and me as it happens, doesn't mean that his opinion is not worthy in someone else's eyes. He has an opinion that he believes his right in his mind, and is willing to put it out there, despite knowing it wont be a popular one, and he will as usual, be ridiculed by others who believe that theres is the only right opinion.
Harry - LCFC Posted 8 June 2014 Posted 8 June 2014 There will be opinions that you and everyone else has, that not everyone is likely to agree with, but you are still entitled to that opinion. The fact he has a different opinion about nugent to you, and me as it happens, doesn't mean that his opinion is not worthy in someone else's eyes. He has an opinion that he believes his right in his mind, and is willing to put it out there, despite knowing it wont be a popular one, and he will as usual, be ridiculed by others who believe that theres is the only right opinion. I seem to remember you not thinking very highly of those who defended Pearson back in the day.
Babylon Posted 8 June 2014 Posted 8 June 2014 There will be opinions that you and everyone else has, that not everyone is likely to agree with, but you are still entitled to that opinion. The fact he has a different opinion about nugent to you, and me as it happens, doesn't mean that his opinion is not worthy in someone else's eyes. He has an opinion that he believes his right in his mind, and is willing to put it out there, despite knowing it wont be a popular one, and he will as usual, be ridiculed by others who believe that theres is the only right opinion. You can have your own opinion, you can't have your own facts. The facts speak for themselves as I have already pointed out. I can have an opinion on quantum mechanics, doesn't mean I know what they hell I'm talking about.
tommypello Posted 8 June 2014 Posted 8 June 2014 That's a little harsh, I thought Kevin did well when he was on loan here.... That's a little harsh, I thought Kevin did well when he was on loan here.... Surely he's on about Stuart?
Agent Fox Posted 8 June 2014 Posted 8 June 2014 "Get rid of Nugent. Overpaid, overestimated, overvalued, overused and crap". This is why his opinions are less worthy. As opposed to Nugent is irreplaceable, only he can play the number 10 role, he had a baby a year ago so maybe he is tired rubbish that other people spout. One extreme to the other, mine is just not supported by cheerleaders.
Harry - LCFC Posted 8 June 2014 Posted 8 June 2014 As opposed to Nugent is irreplaceable, only he can play the number 10 role, he had a baby a year ago so maybe he is tired rubbish that other people spout. One extreme to the other, mine is just not supported by cheerleaders. No-one says that. It isn't one extreme to the other at all.
LCFC31 Posted 8 June 2014 Posted 8 June 2014 As opposed to Nugent is irreplaceable, only he can play the number 10 role, he had a baby a year ago so maybe he is tired rubbish that other people spout. One extreme to the other, mine is just not supported by cheerleaders. Who would you have played or signed to play in the Nugent role last season?
smudger63 Posted 8 June 2014 Posted 8 June 2014 I seem to remember you not thinking very highly of those who defended Pearson back in the day.Nope thats not true at all.I may have had a different opinion with others at any one time on any given subject, but always believed they are entitled to have a different view to me. What i don't like, is people being belittled, and there certainly would be a very high probability that i would respond to that! If you want to use the the Pearson stick to beat me with, then go ahead. I'm absolutely delighted that he went on to prove me wrong. I still maintain that at most clubs he would have lost his job after the terrible run of that season, and while pearson has thankfully proved me wrong, i was still entitled to have that opinion at that time. It certainly doesn't make me any less of a fan than you.
Harry - LCFC Posted 8 June 2014 Posted 8 June 2014 Nope thats not true at all. I may have had a different opinion with others at any one time on any given subject, but always believed they are entitled to have a different view to me. What i don't like, is people being belittled, and there certainly would be a very high probability that i would respond to that! If you want to use the the Pearson stick to beat me with, then go ahead. I'm absolutely delighted that he went on to prove me wrong. I still maintain that at most clubs he would have lost his job after the terrible run of that season, and while pearson has thankfully proved me wrong, i was still entitled to have that opinion at that time. It certainly doesn't make me any less of a fan than you. Who said anything about that? Fair enough though, my mistake.
smudger63 Posted 8 June 2014 Posted 8 June 2014 You can have your own opinion, you can't have your own facts. The facts speak for themselves as I have already pointed out. I can have an opinion on quantum mechanics, doesn't mean I know what they hell I'm talking about. Now why wouldn`t that surprise me! Anyway back on subject, i think Campbell would be a decent signing. I`d see him more as competition for Vardy than Nugent. Similar player to Vardy, so an ideal replacement if Vardy was injured, suspended or out of form. I felt we missed Vardy when he was out at the end of last season, we lost his energy and pace, and his closing down, and Campbell has the same attributes, so if we pull this deal off, and especially at £800,00, i`d be happy with that myself.
Grantham Fox Posted 8 June 2014 Posted 8 June 2014 Now why wouldn`t that surprise me! Anyway back on subject, i think Campbell would be a decent signing. I`d see him more as competition for Vardy than Nugent. Similar player to Vardy, so an ideal replacement if Vardy was injured, suspended or out of form. I felt we missed Vardy when he was out at the end of last season, we lost his energy and pace, and his closing down, and Campbell has the same attributes, so if we pull this deal off, and especially at £800,00, i`d be happy with that myself. This!
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