les-tah Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 if we got relegated matty james would be the best player next year as every game hes getting better in the prem, drinkwater is a proven best midfielder in the championship (just not made the step up). Dont forget we have a very talented set of younger lads who maybe wernt ready.
Guest Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 I'm amazed how many players people think will leave when most of them are under contract (let alone they play for the bottom team in the Prem)!
Callabinho Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 Kasper Schwarzer James Konchesky Cambiasso Mahrez Albrighton Kramaric Knocky I think all of the above will definitely leave.
les-tah Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 James will probably leave tied down to longer contract. plus not been consistant enough to be in a better premiership team so he wont leave to sit on the bench. plus he wont leave his best mate danny drinkwater.
Babylon Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 I'm amazed how many players people think will leave when most of them are under contract (let alone they play for the bottom team in the Prem)! It adds to the doom mongering.
MC Prussian Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 The other problem with keeping him .... How many people will feel positive about the club?? He's not exactly got a great following even during the best of times - get us relegated and I think we'll have a huge drop off in numbers following the club and buying from the shop..... The economics, for me, suggest getting rid as a better option. The amount of fans opposed to Pearson is relatively small - they'll support the club no end no matter who's in charge, anyway. Be it Pearson or not. It's pretty ludicrous trying to construct a connection between the drop in attendance to the manager in charge. Besides, in the case of relegation to the Championship, gates will go down automatically and we'd be getting rid of all the fairweather fans who only came to see "Premier League football" instead of Leicester City FC.
les-tah Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 I'm amazed how many players people think will leave when most of them are under contract (let alone they play for the bottom team in the Prem)! very true this is making me laugh aswell. we are not in a situation where we need to sell. its not a sunday league side where you just choose to leave.
MC Prussian Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 After yesterday's abject performance I'm not sure the players are behind him. I don't see how you can come to that conclusion, unless you're an insider with access to the dressing room or training ground. So far, we've never fallen to a beating by the opposition, the results have been a tight affair and without some individual errors in the majority of our defeats, we could've gotten a handful more points. Wait - aren't you the one stalking Paul Konchesky on Twitter?
indierich06 Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 There's no denying his outstanding record of managing us outside of the Premier League - top of League One at first time of asking followed by Championship play-off finish. Another Champ play-off finish (despite a terrible run of form that lasted over 2 months) followed by absolutely blitzing the league, beating loads of club records in the process - if we keep Pearson till the end of season and get relegated, we might as well keep hold of him unless he has a 'mare of a start next season. He knows his Championship onions. A lot of people on here won't give a shit about that though. They just want to see the bloke hung out to dry for daring to fail the Leicester 'faithful' this season.
indierich06 Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 The other problem with keeping him .... How many people will feel positive about the club?? He's not exactly got a great following even during the best of times - get us relegated and I think we'll have a huge drop off in numbers following the club and buying from the shop..... The economics, for me, suggest getting rid as a better option. The economics that you've invented in your own mind, you mean?
5waller5 Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 The amount of fans opposed to Pearson is relatively small - they'll support the club no end no matter who's in charge, anyway. Be it Pearson or not. It's pretty ludicrous trying to construct a connection between the drop in attendance to the manager in charge. Besides, in the case of relegation to the Championship, gates will go down automatically and we'd be getting rid of all the fairweather fans who only came to see "Premier League football" instead of Leicester City FC. It's pretty ludicrous to ignore the fact that dull football and low expectations don't dent the club financially. If you're going to defend NP at least do so realistically. The guy doesn't help attendances, it may be anecdotal evidence but most of my mates have stopped going and my sons show little or no interest when I try to get them to come. There's just no excitement around the place - and like it or not that's down to NP. The economics that you've invented in your own mind, you mean? No, the simple economics of failure.
5waller5 Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 I don't see how you can come to that conclusion, unless you're an insider with access to the dressing room or training ground. So far, we've never fallen to a beating by the opposition, the results have been a tight affair and without some individual errors in the majority of our defeats, we could've gotten a handful more points. Wait - aren't you the one stalking Paul Konchesky on Twitter? "I'm not sure" would indicate that that's what he feels ...... Maybe he doesn't need to have insider knowledge to have a feeling. Just like your feeling that NP is the right man to take the club forward - it's a feeling and he didn't purport it to be anything else.
cc_star Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 It's pretty ludicrous to ignore the fact that dull football and low expectations don't dent the club financially. If you're going to defend NP at least do so realistically. The guy doesn't help attendances, it may be anecdotal evidence but most of my mates have stopped going and my sons show little or no interest when I try to get them to come. There's just no excitement around the place - and like it or not that's down to NP. No, the simple economics of failure. I don't recall seeing any dull football previously, in fact at times it was some of the best we've ever played, of course the fans of the Premier League rather than fans of Leicester City won't come next season, that's what happens if relegation happens And as for economics, he's quite recently brought in close to £80m this season & secured a further £60m over the next few years should the club not make an instant return
lcfcjw16 Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 Wasilewski Cambiasso Knockaert Mahrez James Wood Kramaric Ulloa They will all leave when we get relegated. So Pearson won't know what to do. We won't get promoted for a long time.
les-tah Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 Wasilewski Cambiasso Knockaert Mahrez James Wood Kramaric Ulloa They will all leave when we get relegated. So Pearson won't know what to do. We won't get promoted for a long time. lol will they just suddenly decide not to play for us next year??? sunday league style??? hmmmm
AyewJoking Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 losing mentality aside, everyone will park the bus when they play us and given our limited brain power in the final third, we may run into trouble.
AKCJ Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 Whilst I think it'll be harder to go up than it was last season, Nigel Pearson should be the best man for the job. We've all seen that chopping and changing at Championship level is a big no no. I think we should have probably got rid of Nigel earlier in the season, now is definitely not the time. I think it wouldn't be unfair to say that a team of; Hamer De Laet Moore Wasilewski(?) NEW LB Albrighton James © Drinkwater Schlupp NugentUlloa (?) would be pretty hot favourites to go up.
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 They weren't their teams though were they? They may have got them relegated but they never got them promoted in the first place. The managers that get teams promoted and stay with them after they go down are few and far between. Personally, I don't understand why failing to stay up with a promoted team is the instantly sackable offence that most seem to think it is. Do I think Pearson will guarantee promoted if we go down, not at all. What I'd expect us to be is competitive and at the right end of the league. For me this response, in the first sentance, gives the reason why Pearson should not be given the opportunity to get us promoted next season.He has spent years getting this point and assembling the squad. We have definately regressed as a team since May. He has proven he is not improving as a manager over that same time span, making the same mistakes over and over again. The last paragraph baffles me, and probably gives an insight of the mentality of those who think we should stick with him, come what may. I'm paraphrasing here: (A) You don't think we will be guaranteed promotion with Pearson next season (of course nobody can guarantee that - fair enough). (B) You would expect us to be competitive at the right end of the league. For goodness sake, we galloped all over that division and were crowned Champions by a country mile 9 months ago. We are now bottom, four wins all season, & 4/9 to be relegated (I think that is buying money btw). You have clearly lowered your expectations of what this club can achieve under Pearson, based on the current state of affairs, like many people have done who want him replaced. In saying what you have, it's an admission that we have regressed, yet still you want to keep him on. I simply don't understand why one would put loyalty to Pearson before the best interests of the club, and in doing so go back to accepting mediocrity. It seems to me that your thinking is - as long as we can keep Nige, that's the main thing!
Guest Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 Kasper Schwarzer James Konchesky Cambiasso Mahrez Albrighton Kramaric Knocky I think all of the above will definitely leave. Wasilewski Cambiasso Knockaert Mahrez James Wood Kramaric Ulloa They will all leave when we get relegated. So Pearson won't know what to do. We won't get promoted for a long time. Some of them are contracted for next season. They can't just decide to leave. We could sell if there are offers but we don't have to sell anyone. As for those who are not contracted - that is for a reason - they are either old or not really so good. Of course some of them we will want to leave. but I guess prem teams will be queuing up for Konch or Schwarzer or Camby or wood won't they?
Babylon Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 The last paragraph baffles me, and probably gives an insight of the mentality of those who think we should stick with him, come what may. I'm paraphrasing here: (A) You don't think we will be guaranteed promotion with Pearson next season (of course nobody can guarantee that - fair enough). (B) You would expect us to be competitive at the right end of the league. For goodness sake, we galloped all over that division and were crowned Champions by a country mile 9 months ago. We are now bottom, four wins all season, & 4/9 to be relegated (I think that is buying money btw). You have clearly lowered your expectations of what this club can achieve under Pearson, based on the current state of affairs, like many people have done who want him replaced. In saying what you have, it's an admission that we have regressed, yet still you want to keep him on. I simply don't understand why one would put loyalty to Pearson before the best interests of the club, and in doing so go back to accepting mediocrity. It seems to me that your thinking is - as long as we can keep Nige, that's the main thing! What an absolute pile of crap. This has got nothing to do with Pearson, I'd be sad to see him go as he's been a fine manager for us, I actually like what I know of him and many of his principles match my own. But I have zero affiliation to him other than him being manager of this club, my interests are only what are the best interests of the club and not Pearson. If he goes, then every thing I've done to defend him, I will do about the incoming person also. This thread was about getting promoted next season, no more no less. I think, that with Pearson in charge we have as good a chance of going up as anyone. His players, his setup, history with us in that league, proven good manager at that level. That's it. You're just chucking in your own warped interpretations of what I've said and you're well off the mark. You have no idea of what my expectations were this season, but for the record as I've repeated any number of times I expected us to struggle and we have. That's the nature of being a newly promoted team. Next season with him, as a minimum I'd expect us to be competing for promotion come the end of the season. But, nobody can guarantee it... so I'm not going to sit here and say we'll definitely go up under him or anyone else.
Danizen Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 lol will they just suddenly decide not to play for us next year??? sunday league style??? hmmmm Most of the players on that list are out of contract. If Mahrez and Kramaric attract interest, we don't have to sell them but most clubs in that position decide that it's better to sell than to have an unhappy player. I can't see James, Ulloa or Wood leaving, though. The first two won't get a better offer and there will be no interest in Wood.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 Of course it's based on previous years, why would we base what he can do in the Championship on what he's done in the premier league. So you think he's only a good Championship manager, and not a good Premier league one. Well said Babble-On.
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 We have fantastic owners and out crowds are the 11th highest in the PL. We got 102 points last season, I dont see how expecting us to at least put up a fight is high expectations. It's embarrassing at the moment. I'm glad you are on here Hackers, It's good to know there are still some positive people around. Let me clarify that - people who believe we should not be getting relegated as a matter of course, and who think we ought to be on the Premier League stage, and who don't accept we can't do better than Nige has for us.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 The likely scenario if we are relegated is that most of the players who have demonstrated that they have the quality to play in the Premier League will go to other clubs. That will leave us with those who have not made the grade. No matter who our manager is it will be difficult to succeed under those conditions. We will have money from parachute payments and need a manager who can identify talented players with Premiership potential and attract them to the club without ruining the finances. NP has had some success in that regard already, which is a good reason to leave him in place. However, if the owners believe that NP himself does not have the capability to manage in the PL they may seek to replace him sooner rather than later, and make a 'clean slate' start to next season. Spot on. Pearson is clueless as to bringing players in, that will cut it at a higher level. I stated this before the season began. It was obvious to many of us, and our fears have been proven, I am sad to say.
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