avyoursay Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 There's a youtube video called Leicester City- the secrets of promotion. There it shows city players studying their ipads during their massages, apparently getting info on what they did before, during and after each contact with the ball. GPS belts to wear during training, showing all sorts of info.The video goes into a lot more detail of how much analysis goes on etc I'm all for improving fitness, especially nutrition wise, but all this techno analysing just turns players into unnatural robots on the pitch totally devoid of any natural ability or expression. No real flare, scared to try something different, it all becomes stale and boring. The great gifted players of yesteryear didn't need all this techno shit to show off tricks and skills, entertain and win games. It was all done on mud with two blades of grass too!!!
Oldblueyes Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 I concur with your sentiments. However in this fast moving modern six pack world, some would say we are just silly old farts.
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 Well considering that video was made to showcase as a reason why we won (were winning, at the time) the league last year, I'd say it was pretty helpful, the idea of the video was that advances in sports science are making getting injured less likely, recovering from injuries easier, being able to show weaknesses and strengths in all manner of things and act accordingly, all of which the technology does. It doesn't make people robots, to not use it would be a huge step backwards. To think otherwise is, well, wrong. How can anyone really think that eating well or working extra hard on a certain muscle or joint you might have problems with somehow stops you from expressing yourself on a football pitch? Being as fit as you can be doesn't turn you in to a robot, nor does it stop you from trying new things on a football pitch. Odd post.
AyewJoking Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 Pearson had a parental lock on the internet last season but techno wiz gary taylor-fletcher cracked the code and now theyre all playing bubble witch saga.
maxwelld_ Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 Pearson had a parental lock on the internet last season but techno wiz gary taylor-fletcher cracked the code and now theyre all playing bubble witch saga.
avyoursay Posted 17 February 2015 Author Posted 17 February 2015 Well considering that video was made to showcase as a reason why we won (were winning, at the time) the league last year, I'd say it was pretty helpful, the idea of the video was that advances in sports science are making getting injured less likely, recovering from injuries easier, being able to show weaknesses and strengths in all manner of things and act accordingly, all of which the technology does. It doesn't make people robots, to not use it would be a huge step backwards. To think otherwise is, well, wrong. How can anyone really think that eating well or working extra hard on a certain muscle or joint you might have problems with somehow stops you from expressing yourself on a football pitch? Being as fit as you can be doesn't turn you in to a robot, nor does it stop you from trying new things on a football pitch. Odd post.
bovril Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 Pearson had a parental lock on the internet last season but techno wiz gary taylor-fletcher cracked the code and now theyre all playing bubble witch saga.
foxfanazer Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 Well considering that video was made to showcase as a reason why we won (were winning, at the time) the league last year, I'd say it was pretty helpful, the idea of the video was that advances in sports science are making getting injured less likely, recovering from injuries easier, being able to show weaknesses and strengths in all manner of things and act accordingly, all of which the technology does. It doesn't make people robots, to not use it would be a huge step backwards. To think otherwise is, well, wrong. How can anyone really think that eating well or working extra hard on a certain muscle or joint you might have problems with somehow stops you from expressing yourself on a football pitch? Being as fit as you can be doesn't turn you in to a robot, nor does it stop you from trying new things on a football pitch. Odd post.This. Can't believe the amount of Pearson bashing threads. Could this non point not have been made in one of the other tthreads
avyoursay Posted 17 February 2015 Author Posted 17 February 2015 I agree, probably an odd post, and you are right regarding fitness and injuries, prevention and recovery etc But it does, to me anyway, seem to make the modern day footballer very methodical, thinking too much and too long on the ball, just seems all too technical and robotic. No real natural flare. They must have had it at some stage but then it's schooled out of them as all this technology gets in the way and over analysing what should be a simple game. Or maybe just get that feeling from looking at our lot. Trying to make excuses for why our players end up worse now than they were last season
ozleicester Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 In whatever age, the coaches and players have used the best technology available to improve, bloody great hobnail boots gave way to much lighter flexible boots with studs and blades etc etc The cleverest use technology, the stupid overuse it, and the foolish ignore it.
Ashley Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 I agree, probably an odd post, and you are right regarding fitness and injuries, prevention and recovery etc But it does, to me anyway, seem to make the modern day footballer very methodical, thinking too much and too long on the ball, just seems all too technical and robotic. No real natural flare. They must have had it at some stage but then it's schooled out of them as all this technology gets in the way and over analysing what should be a simple game. Or maybe just get that feeling from looking at our lot. Trying to make excuses for why our players end up worse now than they were last season You do realise clubs use these videos what players do why they do it on pre match analysis too? Stop over thinking the matter, things are done for a reason.
Fox92 Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 Technology plays a big part in preparation, not just at our club either. I read an interview with Cryuff the other day, obviously a great gifted player, and he was saying if he played now he wouldn't get into a youth academy because they look for different attributes these days. Football has changed, a lot.
sphericalfox Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 Whatever you do, don't go anywhere near the national setup down Burton, you'll explode with the facilities' modernity. We should scrap all this techno bollox, it clearly only works in the CCC.
LcFc_Smiv Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 From someone who works in sport science, the technology is a very small side of it. While the gadgets are obviously what you see a lot of, it's for our use not so much the athletes we work with. A heart rate belt, GPS, video analysis system means nothing to them, which is why it is our job (just to clarify I am human, not an automated response system), to take the information that is gathered, analyse it and implement it in ways which is useful to our guys. This isn't as robot like as you suggest, we feed the info to the guys in a way in which they understand it and let them get on with it. We don't construct their plays, or control their movements, it is simply feedback. The data collected is usually implemented to ensure they are at peak fitness, or to even highlight if there is an area of their training which we should be focused on. Sport is played at a higher intensity in this age, and players as such have to overcome higher physical demands than those who came before them. Data collected may give us a better chance of implementing something that will reduce the risk of injury, increase the players fitness levels, or even indicate areas for improvement when in possession, but this side of it is very human, and a lot of what we apply is done so at the preference of the individual we're working with to ensure that they understand it in a why which is helpful to them. http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/07/16/train-like-a-german-soccer-star/?_r=0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SD13NASf0pg
Haydos Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 There's a youtube video called Leicester City- the secrets of promotion. There it shows city players studying their ipads during their massages, apparently getting info on what they did before, during and after each contact with the ball. GPS belts to wear during training, showing all sorts of info.The video goes into a lot more detail of how much analysis goes on etc I'm all for improving fitness, especially nutrition wise, but all this techno analysing just turns players into unnatural robots on the pitch totally devoid of any natural ability or expression. No real flare, scared to try something different, it all becomes stale and boring. The great gifted players of yesteryear didn't need all this techno shit to show off tricks and skills, entertain and win games. It was all done on mud with two blades of grass too!!! There's rumours that we're the only club that uses 'technology'. Can't be a coincidence that we're bottom as well. #technologyout
MC Prussian Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 There's rumours that we're the only club that uses 'technology'. Can't be a coincidence that we're bottom as well. #technologyout We're doomed and should instantly revert to an Amish approach in order to stop this unparalleled downfall.
squidsworth Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 It's a shame then that all this hi tech sports science cant get them to train on something everyone else in the world can see they need to train on, such as defending & playing set pieces!!
HitchinFox Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 There's a youtube video called Leicester City- the secrets of promotion. There it shows city players studying their ipads during their massages, apparently getting info on what they did before, during and after each contact with the ball. GPS belts to wear during training, showing all sorts of info.The video goes into a lot more detail of how much analysis goes on etc I'm all for improving fitness, especially nutrition wise, but all this techno analysing just turns players into unnatural robots on the pitch totally devoid of any natural ability or expression. No real flare, scared to try something different, it all becomes stale and boring. The great gifted players of yesteryear didn't need all this techno shit to show off tricks and skills, entertain and win games. It was all done on mud with two blades of grass too!!! Right. I guess that's why Germany, the frontrunner when it comes to creating and using performance analysis and data capture in football, never has any success at any level.
AyewJoking Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 yes but the germans are far more advanced, they injected a frog with Maradona's dna and 20 years later they had Mezut Ozil.
cc_star Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 It's about marginal gains & how they all stack up If you can improve something 1% it may not seem worth bothering with, but if you can improve many things 1% then all of a sudden you could be 10 or 20% more prepared, or better Great Britain cycling team are the best example of this. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/19174302 You can apply marginal gains to any aspect of your life to become a hell of a lot better at something.
HitchinFox Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 It's about marginal gains & how they all stack up If you can improve something 1% it may not seem worth bothering with, but if you can improve many things 1% then all of a sudden you could be 10 or 20% more prepared, or better Great Britain cycling team are the best example of this. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/19174302 You can apply marginal gains to any aspect of your life to become a hell of a lot better at something. I've met Dave Brailsford (and heard him speak) quite a few times through work. Remarkable bloke. Full of insight and yet with all his achievements, so down to earth.
Captain... Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 An interesting theory but I think that attitude you describe is more that of a player whose confidence is shot and is scared of making a mistake because of the reaction they will get from the crowd. We've seen some brilliant attacking moves this season with some lovely one touch football and slick moves. We've also seen some lethargic performances people hiding from the ball and looking to pass the responsibility as soon as possible. I don't think analysing your performances will turn you into robots but watching your mistakes again and again could be damaging to confidence and make players risk averse.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 There's a youtube video called Leicester City- the secrets of promotion. There it shows city players studying their ipads during their massages, apparently getting info on what they did before, during and after each contact with the ball. GPS belts to wear during training, showing all sorts of info.The video goes into a lot more detail of how much analysis goes on etc I'm all for improving fitness, especially nutrition wise, but all this techno analysing just turns players into unnatural robots on the pitch totally devoid of any natural ability or expression. No real flare, scared to try something different, it all becomes stale and boring. The great gifted players of yesteryear didn't need all this techno shit to show off tricks and skills, entertain and win games. It was all done on mud with two blades of grass too!!! I agree with that post. If some of the greats could come back and play, they would have a good laugh at what is going on now.
LcFc_Smiv Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 I agree with that post. If some of the greats could come back and play, they would have a good laugh at what is going on now. They can laugh all they like, they'd be a couple of yards off of Messi and probably wouldn't compete for a header against Ronaldo. Players in the modern era cover a far greater distance and play the game at a faster pace, thus the need for sport science.
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