inckley fox Posted 14 March 2015 Posted 14 March 2015 Right maybe this season has been draining, exhausting, disheartening, frustrating and many other verbs you decide to pick and it's ****ing with my mind, I don't wanna make a big thing of what i'm about to say because I think it's as bad as some of the conspiracy and suggestions people have made stupid threads about recently, anyway i'm gonna put it out there.... Does anything think NP is now/over the last few weeks trying, setting up defensive and oops we've lost again or oops failed to win again, stay with me....IF somehow we gave some fight, set up more attacking at gave this relegation battle a go and did somehow stay up (I'm talking weeks ago, there's no chance now) does anyone think he would still be here next season? Cos' I think if we did stay up he'd be gone given the disagrace of this season. However should we go down, I genuinely think his job is safer as 'he is the best man for the job in the Championship' (A quote I myself and many others have made). So maybe, just maybe he is trying to safeguard his job by setting up not to lose. I sat there at the match pondering all this today. Like I say I think my mind is frazzled after this pittyful season, but I do think his job is safer should we be relegated than if we stayed up. Saying that I think he's overcooked this scenario i've suggested, he's gone too far, everyone is now massively pissed off, angry, frustrated and had enough, I think he could be gone soon. I admit even I think i'm being 'idiot' here but I have to put it out there. I don't believe there's any conspiracy, I think he's just a poor manager at this level. And I don't think it's necessarily right that we'll be best off with him next season. We're a much weaker, older side than we were a year ago and we don't know whether he'll enjoy the luxury of the sorts of budgets to which he's become accustomed. Plus he only got promoted at the fourth attempt with us, and didn't bounce straight back with Hull either. If we want a quick return then it's far from certain that Pearson is our man.
Donut Posted 14 March 2015 Posted 14 March 2015 Afraid so mate and the problem is that many of the players we will need next season have been dropped/ignored/left out by him too in favour of some who are short term or won't be up for a fight in the championship. - if nothing else we need someone else in to build bridges. Exactly, a point made in another thread about next season. Its not likely you take the successful components of the promotion season, Knockaert, Drinkwater, to a lesser extent Moore and Wasilewski, freeze them out of the time this time around, and then throw them back in and expect them to turn it back on for us. It just doesnt work like that. And then youre left with a back 4 where Konchesky will be released, we knew De Laet was ropey as a defender, Moore returning, Morgan dodgy, Upson leaving, Huth returning to Stoke and Wasilewski is approaching the end of his career. Hes not going to manage 46 games at 3 games a week some weeks. Major surgery needed.
harpendenfox Posted 14 March 2015 Posted 14 March 2015 After the first three games I saw us in the season I had seen us score nine goals. I've seen eleven more since then, and celebrated precisely three goals in those games. We're now on 2 wins from 23 games. Think I need to listen to my Smiths records to cheer myself up
Matt Posted 14 March 2015 Posted 14 March 2015 I don't believe there's any conspiracy, I think he's just a poor manager at this level. And I don't think it's necessarily right that we'll be best off with him next season. We're a much weaker, older side than we were a year ago and we don't know whether he'll enjoy the luxury of the sorts of budgets to which he's become accustomed. Plus he only got promoted at the fourth attempt with us, and didn't bounce straight back with Hull either. If we want a quick return then it's far from certain that Pearson is our man. Oh don't get me wrong, despite me making the quote of 'he is the best man for us in the Championship' in the past i'm not so sure now and am questioning it, I was just stating I had said it in the past. If I did the hiring and firing he'd be on the verge now.
BlueJoe Posted 14 March 2015 Posted 14 March 2015 cut the drama ? It wasn't over at Xmas at all we beat hull and got a point off Liverpool so stop talking bollocks. I'm sorry I forgot we got 4 points! Lmao!!! It was over at Christmas when they didn't get rid of him! He still doesn't know how to play this squad! The moment the board backed him in the transfer window our season was over
LexicalChoice Posted 14 March 2015 Posted 14 March 2015 Interesting no player ratings on here tonight...who had a truly bad game? Can't think of one absolute stinker....thought Schlupp, Morgan,Upson, Huth,Vardy,Schwarzer all played really well. Did we really play five at the back...lined up 3-5-2 at the start, Pearson said he payed 3-4-3 on the radio.....expectation today causes everyone's disappointment to be magnified......we are likely to go down, we aren't yet, what has really changed, we have needed to win the next game since Christmas......even with Burnley winning, guess what? We need to win the next game....... Finally the way some people go on on here, you suspect some supporters believe the players try not to win........oh and how quickly the fantastic season last year becomes a distant memory.....and nobody was criticising the Manager then.....in fact five year contracts were being bandied about..... Are you mad?! .. And i think it depends on your ambitions and expectations for the club. If you want to be a great Champion ship side, keep him, give him a massive contract. If you want to become an established premiership side, sack him 3 months ago and replace aforementioned players with competent football players.
inckley fox Posted 14 March 2015 Posted 14 March 2015 Exactly, a point made in another thread about next season. Its not likely you take the successful components of the promotion season, Knockaert, Drinkwater, to a lesser extent Moore and Wasilewski, freeze them out of the time this time around, and then throw them back in and expect them to turn it back on for us. It just doesnt work like that. And then youre left with a back 4 where Konchesky will be released, we knew De Laet was ropey as a defender, Moore returning, Morgan dodgy, Upson leaving, Huth returning to Stoke and Wasilewski is approaching the end of his career. Hes not going to manage 46 games at 3 games a week some weeks. Major surgery needed. Definitely. If Konchesky, Upson, Hammond and Wasilewski stay then they'll be old and far less effective, Cambiasso will be costly and would need replacing upon promotion. We're unlikely to keep Knockaert. We can expect Albrighton to want out. Mahrez, Schlupp, possibly even Kramaric, Vardy, Ulloa, are going to draw interest. The confidence of Morgan, Drinkwater, De Laet, Moore, Nugent and many others will be shot, and the players' belief that Pearson is some sort of chosen one who can lead us inexorably to glory will be irreparably damaged. And we're still being looked at by FFP, so our budget could well be decimated if that turns out badly. And, bearing in mind that building a team for PL survival begins long before you get promoted, do we really want one of the PL's worst ever managers to be co-ordinating the revival?
iancognito Posted 14 March 2015 Posted 14 March 2015 Coming from the homophobic, racist ex-policeman. Well said. To be honest, once he tarred himself with the homophobic & racist brush a few months ago, the rest of his opinions have become null and void.
Monsell1976 Posted 14 March 2015 Posted 14 March 2015 I just want him out. He's bringing the whole club down. Just get rid. Don't even care if we have no one to take over. Makes no difference now. Players just lack inspiration. Thought you was a big fan of pearson, might be wrong but always thought I saw you post positively about him.Not taking the piss, just wondered what's changed your opinion. Like I say I might be wrong, might have got you mixed up with other posters.
Dan Posted 14 March 2015 Posted 14 March 2015 I'm losing faith that he'd get us back up next year and that's why I'd look elsewhere.
harpendenfox Posted 14 March 2015 Posted 14 March 2015 That sense of disbelief when poor old Lawrence came on. Compounded when a few minutes later Nuge comes on and Lawrence appears to go back to right back where I felt De Laet had been one of more promising attacking players. Just a mess
Dan Posted 14 March 2015 Posted 14 March 2015 Thought you was a big fan of pearson, might be wrong but always thought I saw you post positively about him. Not taking the piss, just wondered what's changed your opinion. Like I say I might be wrong, might have got you mixed up with other posters. She always has and so have I. I've changed my opinion now. He's had enough chances.
Cropwellfox Posted 14 March 2015 Posted 14 March 2015 Definitely. If Konchesky, Upson, Hammond and Wasilewski stay then they'll be old and far less effective, Cambiasso will be costly and would need replacing upon promotion. We're unlikely to keep Knockaert. We can expect Albrighton to want out. Mahrez, Schlupp, possibly even Kramaric, Vardy, Ulloa, are going to draw interest. The confidence of Morgan, Drinkwater, De Laet, Moore, Nugent and many others will be shot, and the players' belief that Pearson is some sort of chosen one who can lead us inexorably to glory will be irreparably damaged. And we're still being looked at by FFP, so our budget could well be decimated if that turns out badly. And, bearing in mind that building a team for PL survival begins long before you get promoted, do we really want one of the PL's worst ever managers to be co-ordinating the revival? Just shows how quickly things can go sour. Meanwhile even if Burnley do go down, they'll only probably lose Ings and maybe Trippier but have a tight squad who know their jobs and play for their manager. Meanwhile our strategy has backfired spectacularly. The one positive this season has given us is a level of financial security but there's precious little chance that next season will be anything like last season whether Pearson is in charge or not.
Monsell1976 Posted 14 March 2015 Posted 14 March 2015 She always has and so have I. I've changed my opinion now. He's had enough chances.Fair enough, as least all the arguing over him will stop now , I think those who still have faith are few now, so peace can reign over F.T again.
Leicesterpool Posted 14 March 2015 Posted 14 March 2015 It was an extremely scrappy game today, two teams desperate for an result and trying everything to get that ball and by the looks of things you could tell both teams looked very nervous, sloppy and frustrated. A draw was probably a fair result, it was a game full of limited chances. Anyway lets face it's over now, the championship here we go again. I do believe we could have easily have stayed up this season, we've got the players but there no good if there either not being played in the right position or not being played at all. Pearson's tactics this season as been horrendous and that has cost us our survival. Today another example, we were up against a very poor Hull side who don't score many and what does Pearson do?... he plays five at the back! plus just one up front. Second half of course Hull went down to ten men and this was an huge opportunity to overload the Hull box, what should have happened we should have gone for a 4-4-2 taking off Morgan for Ulloa, Vardy for Albrighton (if Pearson would have put him on the bench!). but what does Pearson do? Today was our last hope and you would have thought Pearson would have tried everything to get all three points, but up in the stand he didn't looked bothered. The team did try hard to get something and there not to blame, they were simply struggling with the tactics.
Mayofox Posted 14 March 2015 Posted 14 March 2015 I'm losing faith that he'd get us back up next year and that's why I'd look elsewhere.The owners don't act in haste. Pearson will "quietly" go once this horrible season is over. One conspiracy theory that I've just started is that Liam Moore is our mole at Brentford, reporting back on Mark Warburton.
bovril Posted 14 March 2015 Posted 14 March 2015 At least with the Adams relegation season we had a go. 4-4, 4-3, 3-3. This is like death by fine margins.
Dan Posted 14 March 2015 Posted 14 March 2015 I can't be the only one who thinks the belting we've avoided all season will come away at Burnley? I can see them absolutely finishing us.
Jam Posted 14 March 2015 Posted 14 March 2015 At least with the Adams relegation season we had a go. 4-4, 4-3, 3-3. This is like death by fine margins. This. It may sound an odd thing to say but it just doesn't seem like we're trying.
inckley fox Posted 14 March 2015 Posted 14 March 2015 At least with the Adams relegation season we had a go. 4-4, 4-3, 3-3. This is like death by fine margins. It's like losing 8-0 and pointing out that all of the goals were nearly impossible to defend, and we made plenty of chances of our own. The margins were glaringly wide back in November. Now they're cavernous.
Matt Posted 14 March 2015 Posted 14 March 2015 This. It may sound an odd thing to say but it just doesn't seem like we're trying. I can't say i've ever once this season questioned the players commitment or effort, they've always tried, the simple fact of the matter is that we don't have the quality, not as individuals, not as a team, there is just no quality. Today I must say there was no urgency, they players didn't seem to want the game at a high tempo, especially when Hull went down to 10 men (Infact Hull seemed to be the higher tempo team, trying to speed the game up) which is the first time i've thought 'these players don't want it'.
Max Power Posted 14 March 2015 Posted 14 March 2015 I can't really fault the effort. Today they looked lost and then paralyzed by fear.
Corky Posted 14 March 2015 Posted 14 March 2015 Err, well, that was fun. When we get the ball down and try to pass it we don't look a bad side, when we go long to small strikers we look clueless. The game will do well to get on Match of the Day.
the-blue-wildabeast Posted 14 March 2015 Posted 14 March 2015 @ the angry gimps highlighting text that enrages them. How was it Pearson's fault? I am not even pro-Pearson so you can't just dismiss me as a 'Pearsonite'. The man has many flaws but not every single bad thing that happens is causally linked to him ffs. He played a reasonably attacking formation from the start, like you have all been demanding, and his subs came on much earlier than they often do. Lawrence instead of Nuge, is that honestly what today's result is about? You are either one of the planets bigget arse licking unknowlegable football fans and international standard Twat or a wind up or merchant, but either way, well done. Its second rate fans like you why we now have a second tier football team again.
Corky Posted 14 March 2015 Posted 14 March 2015 I wouldn't say we set up negatively, we had so much pace in the side to get at them but failed to use it time and again. When we played with purpose, such as Vardy just running at them, we turned them around. But we didn't do it enough. And the set pieces continue to offer bugger all.
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