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please

 

Call me  Baggers

 

Yes - it's all related

 

Please provide evidence of the owners far from squeaky clean business dealings. Not bill said this or Fred said that - evidence!

The Owners paid for these lads to go to their country to show off their team, to BUILD relations with their culture, a relationship that will build our brand and bring in revenue to allow our club to grow.....only for 3 members of that team on official duty, paid for by the owners to film themselves discrediting Thai women in the most obscene and racist manner. Come on - I can see from your use of language you are not dim.

 

You have, however, no understanding of cultural differences, of the power of belief. You seem unable or unwilling to try to see it from another perspective to your own. There are many people in this world that are prepared to die for their beliefs - i.m not - you are not but many are - open your mind!

 

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8154497.stm

 

I've traveled to Thailand many times and didn't go in to their shops.

 

The staff watch you like hawks even now. I'm a fan of the owners and Thai people and I don't suppose they gave the nod to hold to ransom anyone who stepped over the invisible threshold of a duty free shop.

 

Playing devils advocate........I don't suppose Nigel gave his son et al the green light.

 

I don't worship him but feel for the guy but he'll be fine and I think we now need a WOW

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If the new manager doesn't have fan approval, the owners are in for major stick.

Particularly given we've been here before. Anyone who was in that away end at 3-0 down to Palace on opening day will be even more concerned.

so let's back them if not for their sake for ours! The impact positive fans can have is massive. The impact negative fans can have is massive. The difference between having a massive positive impact compared to a massive negative impact is ...... massive  :) . Probably the difference between relegation and a top 10 finish

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"Fan Approval"..........thats pathetic. If that were the case why dont we all have one big ballot to decide the new manager?

 

The board need the strength of character to pick the man they feel is right for the job. Not pander to melodramatic fans.

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If the new manager doesn't have fan approval, the owners are in for major stick.

Particularly given we've been here before. Anyone who was in that away end at 3-0 down to Palace on opening day will be even more concerned.

Don't remind me.

Classic case of a new manager coming in and you remember as a fan after five games you have to question whether the players are even fit. Been a long time since we had to worry about basics like that...

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"Fan Approval"..........thats pathetic. If that were the case why dont we all have one big ballot to decide the new manager?

The board need the strength of character to pick the man they feel is right for the job. Not pander to melodramatic fans.

It's the way of the world. If they don't get in a manager with a top flight record, they are going to get stick. Cotterill, Dyche, Lennon the likes of them are going to really annoy fans.

Look at West Ham, the fans drove a manager out. Newcastle the same.

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everyone will forget about the whole summer if we are 3-0 up at half time vs Sunderland. that's how it goes.

if we are 0-3, like the last time we pointless hounded our best manager in time out of the club and replaced him with a chump, it'll kick off. obviously.

whoever comes in will get no time to bed in, they don't win that first game there will be boos. unless it's cambiasso.

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Is anyone going to even give the new manager a chance? or are we going to use the "we still want Pearson" stick to beat him with every week?

 

Its not the new mans fault that these circumstances have occured, and who knows, he may improve on what the squad did last season.

 

Depends who it is. If it's redknapp I'd want him out before the ink has dried and he's found the chequebook, but as a whole of course give them a chance

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I think the biggest mistake was the Thailand trip full stop.

The majority of footballers are thick morons, lets not beat about the bush.

Taking a bunch of people with money to burn on and about 1 brain cell between them on end of season trip in the first place is just asking for a disaster.

plus they went on a 2 night players/owners only bender in a London casino before they jetted off with their families.
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The players are on the whole (mostly young) and rich adults. As soon as the season is over and the pressure of relegation was lifted what did the owners really expect when they fly them half way round the world and their every need and want is met and paid for? Anybody who attended the end of season awards would tell you that the players have no issue in letting their hair down and so they should!

The fact that Nigel has been hung out to dry because of the trip to Thailand and what occurred whilst out there is an absolute joke. They are all adults they are responsible for themselves and their own behaviour.

The owners are in the wrong sport if they want a show pony to parade round Thailand at the end of the season, that will never happen with footballers.

Well Man Utd, Chelsea, City, Spurs, Arsenal et etc all manage to visit other countries act admirably do the honourable thing and return home without incident for many a year. Show some restraint, your on a goodwill tour for a few days go crazy when in Vegas or Ibiza with your mates...

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Erm Bagworthblue you do realise we are talking about the sacking of NIGEL Pearson here? Not James Pearson?

As for the Thai owners having 'beliefs that differ from ours', give me a break, as other posters have mentioned the owners are far from squeaky clean with their business dealings so making out they are sensitive little flowers whose feelings were hurt when a couple of our younger lads decided to pay for a few Thai prostitutes is stretching things to a frankly bizarre level.

It's possible the racist abuse might have been a factor there. Just possible like.

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Don't really know what to say, am still in a state of shock and am hoping I wake up and this has all been a bad dream, I know that won't happen but that is all I have to hang on to for now, I'm very confused and saddened by what is happened and all I keep thinking is that the owners wouldn't of sacked him without an exceptional replacement lined up surely, I just hope that replacement is either Klopp, Hiddink or Ancelotti, it won't be I know that but its all that is keeping me sane at the moment, I like many others was seriously looking forward to this season was confident we would be going from strength to strength but now I have no feelings about the season, I'm worried by what might happen and I just want this sorted, I keep reading the news hoping that Pearson will be reinstated again but again I know this won't happen.

My Uncle told me in December that he had spoke to a good friend of his who was a Leicester fan and knew a few people within the club and that Pearson was going to be sacked at the end of the season and Lennon was going to replace him for this season, I obviously rubbished the idea, however this seems all to coincidental and I'm now starting to believe what I was told, I for one don't think Lennon would be the right man at all for us.

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I think the biggest mistake was the Thailand trip full stop.

The majority of footballers are thick morons, lets not beat about the bush.

Taking a bunch of people with money to burn on and about 1 brain cell between them on end of season trip in the first place is just asking for a disaster.

Why is it? Tours go on all the time without incident, its called restraint.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8154497.stm

 

I've traveled to Thailand many times and didn't go in to their shops.

 

The staff watch you like hawks even now. I'm a fan of the owners and Thai people and I don't suppose they gave the nod to hold to ransom anyone who stepped over the invisible threshold of a duty free shop.

 

Playing devils advocate........I don't suppose Nigel gave his son et al the green light.

 

I don't worship him but feel for the guy but he'll be fine and I think we now need a WOW

still not evidence but I think we are kinda in agreement anyway and at least you provided an article to add credibility. my anger was at the blatantly naive and immature comment of another poster but I think he was innocently just trying to wind people up so i'm cool now!

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Why is it? Tours go on all the time without incident, its called restraint.

 

So, that questions the professionalism of the players and the professionalism instilled into them surely then?

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Don't remind me.

Classic case of a new manager coming in and you remember as a fan after five games you have to question whether the players are even fit. Been a long time since we had to worry about basics like that...

Exactly that. Whose organising pre season as stands? Walsh and Shakespeare will be here until their compo package is agreed. We lose ground on transfer targets as Walsh pull his scouts away. We have no one at the club who has ever ran a pre season. They have to act swift. No manager appointed by end of the next week gives us minus six to nine points.

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please

 

Call me  Baggers

 

Yes - it's all related

 

Please provide evidence of the owners far from squeaky clean business dealings. Not bill said this or Fred said that - evidence!

The Owners paid for these lads to go to their country to show off their team, to BUILD relations with their culture, a relationship that will build our brand and bring in revenue to allow our club to grow.....only for 3 members of that team on official duty, paid for by the owners to film themselves discrediting Thai women in the most obscene and racist manner. Come on - I can see from your use of language you are not dim.

 

You have, however, no understanding of cultural differences, of the power of belief. You seem unable or unwilling to try to see it from another perspective to your own. There are many people in this world that are prepared to die for their beliefs - i.m not - you are not but many are - open your mind!

Hi Baggers,

 

Dude, I am in complete agreement with you and expressed my happiness at how the club handled the cuntish three.  But that's just it, the issue was dealt with.  Indeed I recall the club receiving no end of praise from the media, anti-racism, anti-sexism groups etc about how they handled it.  The issue was dead and buried.

 

So why have the owners now suddenly taken the decision the remove the manager as well?  The trip (and the end of the season) was quite a long time ago now, why have they taken so long to act?  Why have they been letting the man seemingly manage transfer policy in this time?  Why have they been allowing the coaching staff to obliviously prepare for pre-season training which starts next week?  Why have no replacements been sounded out?  If the reports are true, why wasn't Nigel given some sort of warning or suspended under investigation if he supposedly (only heard these rumours today) did lose control of the players on holiday?

 

To me it sounds like the owners have either decided to have a dick-measuring contest to remind those at the club who really runs it, or they have decided that the reputation of the club in Thailand is worth sacking the man solely responsible for bringing them any sort of success in England (like anybody in Thailand really gives a shit about us anyway  lol )

 

PS won't comment on your last paragraph

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Exactly that. Whose organising pre season as stands? Walsh and Shakespeare will be here until their compo package is agreed. We lose ground on transfer targets as Walsh pull his scouts away. We have no one at the club who has ever ran a pre season. They have to act swift. No manager appointed by end of the next week gives us minus six to nine points.

 

I've read some complete shit today, but this ranks right up there.

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Just read this in response to a poor article in the Telegraph,.,, decent insight maybe?

 

 

 

Having lived in Thailand for 7 years and been married to a Thai for 12, Pearson's sacking looks a lot like this was a matter of face.

Many Thais would destroy their own and their families lives rather than lose face.

Its completely inexplicable and its not an emotion Westerners can readily understand or appreciate.

James Corrigan (Writer) is clearly one of those people.

If the Thai owners felt they would have lost face in not sacking Pearson his fate was sealed as soon as the scandal concerning his son and others was known.

This would have less to do with his son but more to do with the fact that it appeared the manager couldn't control his players irrespective who their father was.

Had this incident happened outside Thailand it may have been a different story but it didn't.

I'm sure Leicester City will find a suitable replacement just as Pearson will be back in management before the season starts.

They should lighten up a bit

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It's a shame we can't give him a round of applause and wish him well at a match, similarly to last time, should the owners have said before the QPR game this was his last. I know that would've been very unpopular but it would seem better than this.

 

As for the new manager, he'll get support when he's announced. Until then, we'll have confusion, worry, dread, excitement- whatever.

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I've read some complete shit today, but this ranks right up there.

Look at Sousa last time....we have no staff able to conduct a pre season. We have a pre season camp in Austria set up with a planned programme, that programme has gone with the manager.

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It's the way of the world. If they don't get in a manager with a top flight record, they are going to get stick. Cotterill, Dyche, Lennon the likes of them are going to really annoy fans.

Look at West Ham, the fans drove a manager out. Newcastle the same.

 

West Ham fans driving out Allardyce was ridiculous. Same thing at Newcastle. He has a top flight record and a good one, and is exactly what we want in terms of solidiifying a group of players, the sports science focus he brings, about bringing with him a pragmatic style that achieves results.

 

West Ham tailed off when it was obvious that he wasnt going to be there next season, but moaning about the style of play? We have watched some utter crap under Pearson too, and would do under any manager. Thats just how the game goes.

 

What would be wrong with Dyche? who knows, he could do a great job. Youd write a man off that is clearly a talented football manager on the basis that he played the we have no money card last season and has a gravelly voice?

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