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Why Ranieri is the right man for the LCFC job, and why the pundits have got it all wrong.

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Many ‘Expert’ pundits are writing off Leicester City’s chances in the 2015-16 Premier League campaign, with the majority siting Ranieri’s appointment as a key factor in their reasoning for predicting the foxes to be serious relegation candidates. In fact after reviewing over 25 prediction articles by reputable British media outlets, over 80% of pundits believe Leicester are heading for the drop!

Most of these pundits seem to be guilty of some very lazy journalism with a lack of research as these predictions don’t seem to be based on anything but a perception they have, rather than fact and analysis.

So I have put together a blog article going into detail with hard facts and figures to back up why I feel Expert pundit opinions are being unfair on Ranieri and Leicester City in their predictions, and why their arguments are filled with contradiction and hypocrisy.

You can see the full article here: http://lcfcstatto.tumblr.com/post/126005688933/why-ranieri-is-the-right-man-for-the-lcfc-job

If you like the article go find me on twitter: @lcfc_statto and Facebook: LCFC Statto for more insights throughout the season. Here's a sneak preview of some of the graphics and analysis involved (Attached).

 

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They might turn out to be right you know. No point getting your knickers in a twist about other people's opinions, let's just hope they're wrong.

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Many ‘Expert’ pundits are writing off Leicester City’s chances in the 2015-16 Premier League campaign, with the majority siting Ranieri’s appointment as a key factor in their reasoning for predicting the foxes to be serious relegation candidates. In fact after reviewing over 25 prediction articles by reputable British media outlets, over 80% of pundits believe Leicester are heading for the drop!

Most of these pundits seem to be guilty of some very lazy journalism with a lack of research as these predictions don’t seem to be based on anything but a perception they have, rather than fact and analysis.

So I have put together a blog article going into detail with hard facts and figures to back up why I feel Expert pundit opinions are being unfair on Ranieri and Leicester City in their predictions, and why their arguments are filled with contradiction and hypocrisy.

You can see the full article here: http://lcfcstatto.tumblr.com/post/126005688933/why-ranieri-is-the-right-man-for-the-lcfc-job

If you like the article go find me on twitter: @lcfc_statto and Facebook: LCFC Statto for more insights throughout the season. Here's a sneak preview of some of the graphics and analysis involved (Attached).

Still reading it, but popped in to say how much I agree with your point about their U-turn over Nigel.  Reading predictions this year you'd think Nigel was always one of their favourite managers. lol

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That article should be obligatory reading material for any pundits wishing to express a view on Ranieri.  Can't believe how wrong they all get it.

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That article should be obligatory reading material for any pundits wishing to express a view on Ranieri.  Can't believe how wrong they all get it.

 

It's the majority perception which gets me. Believing that Leicester as a unit are a good side and very capable of having a competitive season, but having Ranieri as manager makes them relegation fodder.

 

A complete lack of respect first of all to the players, and to Ranieri by the media for churning this out, Ranieri has a very consistent record across the plate and there's no reason to expect failure here. These are the same majority who,, say had Jose Mourinho been appointed manager. they would expect Leicester to finish 4th.

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Sections I agree with,

Media hypocrisy (though that doesn't actually mean anything when it comes to our chances of survival).

Nigel Pearson being a very good manager.

 

Mixed feelings about,
The Ranieri section, yes a lot of the pundit concerns are exaggerated but some of them are fair. Finishing 6th or above in league football is less impressive when you've managed some of the best and richest clubs in the world. And his lack of experience in the situation we're facing concerns me a bit but I'm hopeful.

 

Sections I disagree with,
Pearson had to go (No, no he didn't) - particularly the 'Thai loyalty' nonsense, aside from the dull stereotyping Nigel Pearson did nothing as far as we're aware to break that. I believe I'm right in saying that Qwerty was the original source of the rumours regarding his involvement in the incidents in Thailand. If he's being punished for his son's actions then that's a disgrace. And the incidents throughout the season (other than the Ostrich interview which he rightly apologized for) were nothing incidents exaggerated by the media for a story.

 

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 Another thing, both Newcastle and Leicester have had managerial changes in the summer, Newcastle bringing in McClaren and Leicester bringing in Ranieri. It’s worth noting that McClaren’s record over the last 10 years of management indicates a much bigger risk than that of Ranieri having failed to meet targets at Championship clubs Derby and Nottingham Forest.

 

Has Ranieri not failed to achieve the expectations of a similar number of clubs?

 

You can't have an issue with people underestimating the difficult task Ranieri had at some of his clubs and then label McClaren a failure for turning a struggling mid-table Championship side (Derby) into a legitimate promotion contender.
 

 He’s probably one of the only managers that consistently finishes in the top 2/3 with big clubs

 


Is he? Proof?

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Then I got a bit bored and stopped. Seems like there's some decent points coupled with some straw clutching and blue-tinted spec wearing to me.

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Sections I agree with,

Media hypocrisy (though that doesn't actually mean anything when it comes to our chances of survival).

Nigel Pearson being a very good manager.

 

Mixed feelings about,

The Ranieri section, yes a lot of the pundit concerns are exaggerated but some of them are fair. Finishing 6th or above in league football is less impressive when you've managed some of the best and richest clubs in the world. And his lack of experience in the situation we're facing concerns me a bit but I'm hopeful.

 

Sections I disagree with,

Pearson had to go (No, no he didn't) - particularly the 'Thai loyalty' nonsense, aside from the dull stereotyping Nigel Pearson did nothing as far as we're aware to break that. I believe I'm right in saying that Qwerty was the original source of the rumours regarding his involvement in the incidents in Thailand. If he's being punished for his son's actions then that's a disgrace. And the incidents throughout the season (other than the Ostrich interview which he rightly apologized for) were nothing incidents exaggerated by the media for a story.

 

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Has Ranieri not failed to achieve the expectations of a similar number of clubs?

 

You can't have an issue with people underestimating the difficult task Ranieri had at some of his clubs and then label McClaren a failure for turning a struggling mid-table Championship side (Derby) into a legitimate promotion contender.

 

 

Is he? Proof?

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Then I got a bit bored and stopped. Seems like there's some decent points coupled with some straw clutching and blue-tinted spec wearing to me.

 

1st with Monaco, 2nd with Monaco, 2nd with Chelsea, 2nd with Roma.

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1st with Monaco, 2nd with Monaco, 2nd with Chelsea, 2nd with Roma.

 

That's not my issue (and Ligue 2 is hardly noteworthy), I'm interested in whether there's any evidence that the majority of managers who are in charge of huge clubs don't tend to finish consistently in the top 2.

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 some straw clutching and blue-tinted spec wearing to me.

If Mark says that to you, then you know you're in trouble.

 

For what it's worth Leigh it was a good read and you've obviously put a lot of time and effort in to it... not least the graphics (i know you're a designer).

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Ranieri is the element of doubt for me, no opinion piece will change that either for or against him. I just don't know

 

Facts are, NP delivered continual improvement for us, no one knows what Ranieri will deliver, his record isn't conclusive (especially 2nd/3rd, seasons), whereas NP's, for us, was.

 

What I don't get from the media & pundits, is the Cambiasso has gone therefore they've lost their best player, difference maker so therefore they're down

 

Cambiasso was pretty far from the be all an end all and as a DM he was pretty poor. Rather than being our difference maker he was a cog in a machine that ultimately was successful, but the amount of midfield often failed to compete, especially defensively he was a player we should have looked to improve on anyway, defensively not good enough, atacking wise the 5 goals was a great return, but his assists was staggeringly bad for a player worshipped so easily, I find that staggering. Kante looks like he'll offer what I thought Cambiasso would have offered, lets hope he adapts to the PL a long time before the final 9 games of the season.

 

Our difference maker was Huth along with management-derived team spirit (which Ranieri may add to or detract from, we don't know yet until we have a poor run)

 

so the pundits may or may not be wrong, I am sure that if the management continued as it was & with Huth for a full season we would be certain to have seen an improvement on 14th & 41pts, especially as the squad is more experienced & now knows how to manage top flight games. Now I only think we'll improve because the squad is improved & more experienced, rather than being certain of improving.

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For me it's not about them writing us off, it's that they don't judge by the same criteria as Leigh goes in to depth about.

 

If we'd signed Joey Barton and got Redknapp as manager they would all be tipping us for a top half finish.

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For me it's not about them writing us off, it's that they don't judge by the same criteria as Leigh goes in to depth about.

 

If we'd signed Joey Barton and got Redknapp as manager they would all be tipping us for a top half finish.

 

RIP Babs Avatar. :(

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Still slightly apprehensive about the Pearson/ Ranieri saga, a little worried we will lose that spirit that made this team successful, especially when Claudio brings in these big European names, I just hope that they get on board with team spirit, like Mahrez, Cambi etc have. I want to keep on hearing players saying its a special place to be, not just its business. I want us to carry on playing our fast paced, high pressure game and continue to be the fittest side in the league, having enough to dictate those final 10 minutes plus extra time.

If Claudio can keep all those good things from the Nige era and build upon them, then he will reap the rewards that Nige would have this season. If he tries to change our style and approach, I can see us getting off to a costly slow start.

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Many ‘Expert’ pundits are writing off Leicester City’s chances in the 2015-16 Premier League campaign, with the majority siting Ranieri’s appointment as a key factor in their reasoning for predicting the foxes to be serious relegation candidates. In fact after reviewing over 25 prediction articles by reputable British media outlets, over 80% of pundits believe Leicester are heading for the drop!

Most of these pundits seem to be guilty of some very lazy journalism with a lack of research as these predictions don’t seem to be based on anything but a perception they have, rather than fact and analysis.

So I have put together a blog article going into detail with hard facts and figures to back up why I feel Expert pundit opinions are being unfair on Ranieri and Leicester City in their predictions, and why their arguments are filled with contradiction and hypocrisy.

You can see the full article here: http://lcfcstatto.tumblr.com/post/126005688933/why-ranieri-is-the-right-man-for-the-lcfc-job

If you like the article go find me on twitter: @lcfc_statto and Facebook: LCFC Statto for more insights throughout the season. Here's a sneak preview of some of the graphics and analysis involved (Attached).

 

It's a good well-researched article.

 

The 'facts and figures' though don't explain Ranieri's motivation for wanting to manage a club like Leicester after a career at some of the World's biggest clubs. Managing Juventus is a different planet to managing Leicester. It's like Lewis Hamilton quitting F1 to take up banger-racing.

 

Maybe he wants to prove to everyone what a good manager he is; or maybe he just wanted one last pay-off to see him through to retirement. The Greek FA will have a very firm view that it's the latter.

 

The point is that we just can't know Ranieri's motivation. To me, he seems like a good, honourable man who is going to try his best for us - and if he does that, I've no doubt he will succeed. The worry is though that old rainy November night at Stoke. The fans are on his back, the players are moaning, the media are just waiting for him to get the chop. Will he turn to himself and say "I really don't give a flying fvck about this? I should be sat on a lounger by the pool in Tenerife... the sooner they sack me the sooner I can get my pay-off and go."

 

Will that happen? We just don't know. Probably even Claudio doesn't know yet.

 

That just seems an enormous risk for a club like ours to take. We don't really have the capacity to survive another Manager who ends up not giving a flying fvck about us.

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Ranieri is the element of doubt for me, no opinion piece will change that either for or against him. I just don't know

Facts are, NP delivered continual improvement for us, no one knows what Ranieri will deliver, his record isn't conclusive (especially 2nd/3rd, seasons), whereas NP's, for us, was.

What I don't get from the media & pundits, is the Cambiasso has gone therefore they've lost their best player, difference maker so therefore they're down

Cambiasso was pretty far from the be all an end all and as a DM he was pretty poor. Rather than being our difference maker he was a cog in a machine that ultimately was successful, but the amount of midfield often failed to compete, especially defensively he was a player we should have looked to improve on anyway, defensively not good enough, atacking wise the 5 goals was a great return, but his assists was staggeringly bad for a player worshipped so easily, I find that staggering. Kante looks like he'll offer what I thought Cambiasso would have offered, lets hope he adapts to the PL a long time before the final 9 games of the season.

Our difference maker was Huth along with management-derived team spirit (which Ranieri may add to or detract from, we don't know yet until we have a poor run)

so the pundits may or may not be wrong, I am sure that if the management continued as it was & with Huth for a full season we would be certain to have seen an improvement on 14th & 41pts, especially as the squad is more experienced & now knows how to manage top flight games. Now I only think we'll improve because the squad is improved & more experienced, rather than being certain of improving.

What you need to consider is that NP's improvement of the team over a period of time began when we were at the lowest ever league position in our history.

My cat could have managed us to win league 1 with the players we had.

It's now a significantly more difficult job to improve our team in this division that it ever was for NP to IMPROVE the team. (I appreciate he can't help where he started).

Please consider this when comparing NP's achievements with managers of either past, present and future. It was undoubtedly much easier for Nige to 'deliver' given his starting point.

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- A very well written post, backed up by good evidence and stats and great graphics

- You've clearly tried to be balanced in your writing, despite having an obvious agenda to 'prove the pundits wrong'

- Cambiasso is 5'10, not 5'6' but whatever...

 

All in all, great discussion and content, that tries to be balanced and back up its claims with evidence...so totally at odds with this forum I'm afraid. 

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What you need to consider is that NP's improvement of the team over a period of time began when we were at the lowest ever league position in our history.

My cat could have managed us to win league 1 with the players we had.

It's now a significantly more difficult job to improve our team in this division that it ever was for NP to IMPROVE the team. (I appreciate he can't help where he started).

Please consider this when comparing NP's achievements with managers of either past, present and future. It was undoubtedly much easier for Nige to 'deliver' given his starting point than any other manager we have had due to the competition.

 

This is mightily unfair. What NP achieved, by most people's standards was not easy. 

 

It's well known that big clubs with decent set ups like Forest, Leeds and Norwich got stuck in L1 when they went down there. 

 

Pearson got us promoted in style, after inheriting a squad full of deadwood on trumped up contracts and a huge wage bill. Cutting that squad back, getting rid of those players, adhering to FFP, signing young sustainable players like DD, James, RDL and Vardy, whilst keeping us competitive and eventually leading to the promotion season was a pretty tough task. 

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Sections I agree with,

Media hypocrisy (though that doesn't actually mean anything when it comes to our chances of survival).

Nigel Pearson being a very good manager.

 

Mixed feelings about,

The Ranieri section, yes a lot of the pundit concerns are exaggerated but some of them are fair. Finishing 6th or above in league football is less impressive when you've managed some of the best and richest clubs in the world. And his lack of experience in the situation we're facing concerns me a bit but I'm hopeful.

 

Sections I disagree with,

Pearson had to go (No, no he didn't) - particularly the 'Thai loyalty' nonsense, aside from the dull stereotyping Nigel Pearson did nothing as far as we're aware to break that. I believe I'm right in saying that Qwerty was the original source of the rumours regarding his involvement in the incidents in Thailand. If he's being punished for his son's actions then that's a disgrace. And the incidents throughout the season (other than the Ostrich interview which he rightly apologized for) were nothing incidents exaggerated by the media for a story.

 

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Has Ranieri not failed to achieve the expectations of a similar number of clubs?

 

You can't have an issue with people underestimating the difficult task Ranieri had at some of his clubs and then label McClaren a failure for turning a struggling mid-table Championship side (Derby) into a legitimate promotion contender.

 

 

Is he? Proof?

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Then I got a bit bored and stopped. Seems like there's some decent points coupled with some straw clutching and blue-tinted spec wearing to me.

Still missing Pearson, I see.  :yawn:

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Good read! I enjoyed that, you never know in football but I have a positive feeling about this season.

Ranieri is the face of Leicester City whilst we still have the same structure behind him. I think we'll better what we did last season

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Many ‘Expert’ pundits are writing off Leicester City’s chances in the 2015-16 Premier League campaign, with the majority siting Ranieri’s appointment as a key factor in their reasoning for predicting the foxes to be serious relegation candidates. In fact after reviewing over 25 prediction articles by reputable British media outlets, over 80% of pundits believe Leicester are heading for the drop!

Most of these pundits seem to be guilty of some very lazy journalism with a lack of research as these predictions don’t seem to be based on anything but a perception they have, rather than fact and analysis.

So I have put together a blog article going into detail with hard facts and figures to back up why I feel Expert pundit opinions are being unfair on Ranieri and Leicester City in their predictions, and why their arguments are filled with contradiction and hypocrisy.

You can see the full article here: http://lcfcstatto.tumblr.com/post/126005688933/why-ranieri-is-the-right-man-for-the-lcfc-job

If you like the article go find me on twitter: @lcfc_statto and Facebook: LCFC Statto for more insights throughout the season. Here's a sneak preview of some of the graphics and analysis involved (Attached).

Were you the caller on 5Live last night with Darren Fletcher and Robbie Savage?

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These same pundits wrote of Southampton last season due to a summer of change and we all know how that ended......

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