Spoilers Ahead - The Force Awakens

[Samilktray]

A fight with swords

Pilots flying spaceships like cars

Going through space at light speeds without space helmets

[Rincewind]

A fight with swords

Pilots flying spaceships like cars

Going through space at light speeds without space helmets

Fencing

Crashing and still able to travel through  space

Going planet to planet in short time periods  means FTL speed.

 

Is any of the above wrong?

 

 

Just saw this on Twitter. Made me smile.

 

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Peaches Mon Cherrie'‏@shazamarama1

@MrOzAtheist Star Wars is written from the point of view of the terrorists. How might the story differ if written by The Empire?

[Charl91]

Just back from the cinema. 7/10 as a New Hope remake. 0/10 for originality. It's exactly the same bloody film.

 

A Jedi with untapped power unknown to them is left as a child on a hot desert planet. They comes across a droid, who has an important message to get to the rebellion. They meet up with important father-figure like character, who has a lot of knowledge about everything that's going on. However, stormtroopers are looking for the hero of the film, and the characters home is attacked by storm-troopers (who are directed by an evil man in a giant, black suit), forcing them to leave. They go to strange bar, where silly alien bands play music. The Jedi is also given the lightsabre of their relative.

 

However, it turns out their is some giant planet-destroying super-weapon, which destroys rebel planets. Luckily, they know it has a weak point. A rescue happens and the girl is saved from planet-destroying super-weapon. The rebel X-Wing fighters launch a daring attack, and hit the weak point to blow it up. Meanwhile, the father-like figure confronts main villain (who happens to be a former acquaintance of his), who strikes him down, before the heroes manage to escape on the millennium falcon. They then go back and celebrate at the rebel base. The Jedi then seeks out the wise Jedi-master, so that they can complete their training.

 

 

That's the plot of both films (though sometimes it happens in a slightly different order). Say what you like about the prequels (and I like The Phantom Menace and Revenge of the Sith), but at least they were slightly more original.

[Rincewind]

There isn't a lot they can do with them now. I may have only seen the first three before this, well I cannot remember more of them.They  all seem to have a vague similarity. At least in th  first one Luke had more training on how to use the light sabre.

I would like to see Isaac Asimov's Foundation series of books done. I had them on Kindle until my device was damaged. Got as far as about five.

[urban.spaceman]

There isn't a lot they can do with them now. I may have only seen the first three before this, well I cannot remember more of them.They all seem to have a vague similarity. At least in th first one Luke had more training on how to use the light sabre.

I would like to see Isaac Asimov's Foundation series of books done. I had them on Kindle until my device was damaged. Got as far as about five.

You're in luck - HBO are making it into a series with Jonathan Nolan writing and showrunning. He's also doing Westworld. Can't wait!

[urban.spaceman]

Right. Star Wars Ep VII was bloody brilliant but I'm not surprised it reached $1bn in 12 days when 2D screenings are restricted to to a handful a day and the public is bombarded with 3D screenings with charmless digital projection and a mandatory £2+ surcharge. The 3D adds bugger all. Give me 70mm projection any day.

It depresses me that we have a creative industry that doesn't care about how it's art is presented to its paying customers - this extends to the general public and the part it plays in the cinema experience.

When I pay £10 to see a film I do it to escape my surroundings and be immersed in the world presented on the big screen. I don't pay £10 to have a "twat soundtrack" (people talking, chewing incessantly on popcorn, taking a full 10 minutes to open a bag of sodding sweets, dropping their phones and their drinks, letting their phones ring and even worse, answering it in the film);

Or to have "twat subtitles" (people checking their phones, the people who are happy to pay £10 to spend 2 hours out of their day watching a film but then miss 5 minutes of it going to the toilet - quite often missing crucial plot points or the entire climax of the film).

The government should bring in a 'cinema etiquette' charter where all those guilty of the above should be rounded up and culled*.

Adored BB-8 (I have actually fallen in love - SO cute the thumbs up bit with Finn was hilarious! Best character IMO), loved seeing R2 and C3PO (particularly hilarious introduction) again, Chewie was just brilliant too. Han was great (very sad exit), Leia deserves more screen time in the next one and I think not seeing Luke until the end really suited the story. Boyega and Ridley were fantastic and I hope we see more of Driver, Isaac, Gleeson, Christie and co in the next one.

All in all, I adored it. I could have gone so badly wrong but for me it hit all the right marks that I hoped for and surpassed them. Easily the funniest film of the series. Looking forward to Ep VIII - Rian Johnson is a great choice (still not seen Brick but The Brothers Bloom was brilliant, Looper was excellent and his work on Breaking Bad was phenomenal), I absolutely cannot wait to see what he does with it.

Well done JJ!!

*or banned, whichever. Philistines

[Strokes]

Right. Star Wars Ep VII was bloody brilliant but I'm not surprised it reached $1bn in 12 days when 2D screenings are restricted to to a handful a day and the public is bombarded with 3D screenings with charmless digital projection and a mandatory £2+ surcharge. The 3D adds bugger all. Give me 70mm projection any day.

It depresses me that we have a creative industry that doesn't care about how it's art is presented to its paying customers - this extends to the general public and the part it plays in the cinema experience.

When I pay £10 to see a film I do it to escape my surroundings and be immersed in the world presented on the big screen. I don't pay £10 to have a "twat soundtrack" (people talking, chewing incessantly on popcorn, taking a full 10 minutes to open a bag of sodding sweets, dropping their phones and their drinks, letting their phones ring and even worse, answering it in the film);

Or to have "twat subtitles" (people checking their phones, the people who are happy to pay £10 to spend 2 hours out of their day watching a film but then miss 5 minutes of it going to the toilet - quite often missing crucial plot points or the entire climax of the film).

The government should bring in a 'cinema etiquette' charter where all those guilty of the above should be rounded up and culled*.

Adored BB-8 (I have actually fallen in love - SO cute the thumbs up bit with Finn was hilarious! Best character IMO), loved seeing R2 and C3PO (particularly hilarious introduction) again, Chewie was just brilliant too. Han was great (very sad exit), Leia deserves more screen time in the next one and I think not seeing Luke until the end really suited the story. Boyega and Ridley were fantastic and I hope we see more of Driver, Isaac, Gleeson, Christie and co in the next one.

All in all, I adored it. I could have gone so badly wrong but for me it hit all the right marks that I hoped for and surpassed them. Easily the funniest film of the series. Looking forward to Ep VIII - Rian Johnson is a great choice (still not seen Brick but The Brothers Bloom was brilliant, Looper was excellent and his work on Breaking Bad was phenomenal), I absolutely cannot wait to see what he does with it.

Well done JJ!!

*or banned, whichever. Philistines

Yeah i totally agree with this, seen it yesterday with my lad and was so entertained. Sets it up nicely.

[Vlad the Fox]

Took the kids to see this this afternoon. I thought it was brilliant, it had everything you'd expect from a Star Wars film, plenty of action, uncomplicated, corny at times, humour. It is also nicely set up for the sequels, my eight year old self would have loved it.

In fact it was an emotional experience, with the kids exited chatter in the car it reminded me of my dad taking my brother and myself to watch it years ago, the familiarity of the storyline and characters, and music brought many memories back, the toys and games ect. There were many happy memories, as the kids came out at the end excitedly babbling about it, sorry at the loss of Hans (Obi Wan Kenobi), I struggled to talk to them. I've not got that emotional about a film since toy story 3 .

[Trav Le Bleu]

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I do like a good bad lip reading and there were some good bits, but it wasn't their best too many characters didn't have mouths so Vader, C3P0 and others were just trying to be whacky and it didn't work.

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

Just seen it in town, I thought it was ****ing boss

[leicsmac]

Saw it yesterday. Was pretty decent, doesn't deserve the hype but then it could have all of the best parts of The Godfather, The Shawshank Redemption and 12 Angry Men mixed in together and it wouldn't justify the ridiculous fanboy/girling.

 

But it continues on the mythos pretty well and the plotline does well with beginning the handing over from the old names to the new. Going back to the old styles of animation gave it a better feel, too.

 

I do have one reasonable question that will probably be answered sometime further along: Every Force user who gets anywhere near being really good with it has had to serve under a master or masters to do so. It seems to be a recurring theme, Jedi and Sith both.

 

So...with that in mind, who was the master of Snoke who allowed him to become so seemingly powerful in the Dark Side? It seems like this guy has just come out of nowhere.

[foxoffderby]

I think some people on here are being over critical. The majority of people watched the original films as children, and are now watching these new films as adults. I went to see this film with my 10 year old and he loved it just as much as I loved watching The Empire Strikes Back with my mum and dad in the late 70's.

[sphericalfox]

I think some people on here are being over critical. The majority of people watched the original films as children, and are now watching these new films as adults. I went to see this film with my 10 year old and he loved it just as much as I loved watching The Empire Strikes Back with my mum and dad in the late 70's.

 

How'd you manage to do that? 

[foxoffderby]

ok 1980

[rico]

Saw it yesterday. Was pretty decent, doesn't deserve the hype but then it could have all of the best parts of The Godfather, The Shawshank Redemption and 12 Angry Men mixed in together and it wouldn't justify the ridiculous fanboy/girling.

 

But it continues on the mythos pretty well and the plotline does well with beginning the handing over from the old names to the new. Going back to the old styles of animation gave it a better feel, too.

 

I do have one reasonable question that will probably be answered sometime further along: Every Force user who gets anywhere near being really good with it has had to serve under a master or masters to do so. It seems to be a recurring theme, Jedi and Sith both.

 

So...with that in mind, who was the master of Snoke who allowed him to become so seemingly powerful in the Dark Side? It seems like this guy has just come out of nowhere.

 

 

i have read that Snoke may be Darth Sidious

[leicsmac]

i have read that Snoke may be Darth Sidious

 

That would be interesting. I have also heard that he could be Darth Plagueis, which would make sense in general terms.

[rico]

That would be interesting. I have also heard that he could be Darth Plagueis, which would make sense in general terms.

 

my bad,just read back the article Darth Plagueis not Sidious

[leicsmac]

my bad,just read back the article Darth Plagueis not Sidious

 

Right. It would make a certain amount of sense. Sidious did remark to Anakin that Plagueis could supposedly control life and death, so he could well just have been playing the long game by allowing Sidious to kill him.

 

I guess we'll find out in due course, but I really hope they haven't just stuck him in there as a Giant Space Flea From Nowhere considering how powerful he purports to be. He should fit in the Sith history somewhere.

[Charl91]

I think some people on here are being over critical. The majority of people watched the original films as children, and are now watching these new films as adults. I went to see this film with my 10 year old and he loved it just as much as I loved watching The Empire Strikes Back with my mum and dad in the late 70's.

 

No wonder people who liked the originals liked it; It's exactly the same bloody film.

[Strokes]

No wonder people who liked the originals liked it; It's exactly the same bloody film.

There is enough difference to keep me entertained, and I never got to see the originals on the big screen.

[Charl91]

Right. It would make a certain amount of sense. Sidious did remark to Anakin that Plagueis could supposedly control life and death, so he could well just have been playing the long game by allowing Sidious to kill him.

 

I guess we'll find out in due course, but I really hope they haven't just stuck him in there as a Giant Space Flea From Nowhere considering how powerful he purports to be. He should fit in the Sith history somewhere.

 

Could possibly be Plagueis, but I don't think so; I think the reveal would lack the impact that say, Vader being Luke's father had, as 95% of viewers will have no idea who Darth Plagueis is.

 

I do hope he has some significance though, and isn't just some random person who's appeared from nowhere, like you say.

[Charl91]

There is enough difference to keep me entertained, and I never got to see the originals on the big screen.

 

Fair enough. As a film by itself, it was entertaining - I just couldn't help but be disappointed by the lack of originality, especially after all the hype about how good it was. I can understand why they've been risk adverse after the reception to the prequels though (even if I did like Phantom Menace/Revenge of the Sith).

[Strokes]

Fair enough. As a film by itself, it was entertaining - I just couldn't help but be disappointed by the lack of originality, especially after all the hype about how good it was. I can understand why they've been risk adverse after the reception to the prequels though (even if I did like Phantom Menace/Revenge of the Sith).

I didn't mind the prequels either, they weren't as good as this. Me and the lad watch a Star Wars film or two most weekends, so we were almost guaranteed to love it.

[4everfox]

Supreme Leader Snoke could be Darth Plagueis the Wise (the one Emperor Palpatine refers to in Revenge Of The Sith, he tells Anakin he could cheat death and save the people he cared about from dying). Rey is obviously one of the youngsters Luke was training before Kylo went rogue and killed all the jedi's. Luke must have hidden her on Jakku to keep her safe as he knew of her power. I wouldn't be entirely surprised if Rey turned out to be a distant relative of Snoke (Plagueis) either which would make a welcome change from the cliche of a Skywalker being the main character.