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He feels bitter about certain things, I don't blame him he will feel he lost an opportunity himself to do something great here. He is still one of our best managers, took us from our lowest point when we were a laughing stock to the PL

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An early comment this morning on the Daily Fail was that it was Mike Stowell who Pearson wouldn't want to see happy....

...seems they had differences

- no idea whether it is true or not but just thought I'd throw it in for consideration.

Doesn't make much sense... Why would NP have him as a first team coach then? I've heard before Jon Rudkin didn't like NP. To be fair as a 'manager' in any profession your going to have some enemies in your own ranks. It's the nature of the beast.

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Don't think we have heard even 5 per cent of the full story regards Nigel.

Cant help but keep thinking of that tweet his daughter posted for about an hour. Last year saying can't wait until we can say just how corrupt that place is .

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I'd be amazed if they didn't keep their thoughts to themselves.

As he should have done.

From the last line around his 'pivotal role', I can only assume he's unhappy he isn't still getting most of the credit like in the early parts of the season.

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Don't think we have heard even 5 per cent of the full story regards Nigel.

Cant help but keep thinking of that tweet his daughter posted for about an hour. Last year saying can't wait until we can say just how corrupt that place is .

 

Corrupt?

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Don't think we have heard even 5 per cent of the full story regards Nigel.

Cant help but keep thinking of that tweet his daughter posted for about an hour. Last year saying can't wait until we can say just how corrupt that place is .

Corrupt? I really don't think our club is run corruptly. Best owners we could have ever wished for

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Honest as always.

I think we'd all be bitter if we were in nige's position.

At least 75% of our achievements this season is down to him

 

75% ? come on

 

He was good, but youre saying Ranieri is the minor influence in our performances this season, despite last season the so called talented squad Pearson had at his disposal looked utterly useless for most of the season?

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75% ? come on

 

He was good, but youre saying Ranieri is the minor influence in our performances this season, despite last season the so called talented squad Pearson had at his disposal looked utterly useless for most of the season?

1.) Different squad, Kanté in particular from the new recruits has been pivotal.

2.) They didn't though, did they?  It was excruciating the amount of times we came away from matches without a return on a really good performance.

 

Just to clarify I'm not defending the 75% statement, as if you can even quantify something like that, but yours is equally ridiculous.

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I for one have not missed the childish press conferences,abuse of fans,assaulting other clubs players, and trying to defend the indefensible behavior of silly young men acting in a racist and disrespectful manner whilst on official duty in the country of our owners who have invested so much in our great club. The last seven games were truly fantastic but it his own arrogance and hubris that brought him down and he only has himself to blame.I think other owners see the same and although he will walk into another job for next season (Derby ???) it not an accident he is still unemployed.    

 

"Arrogance and hubris". lol

 

I will not miss "fans" like you who use every opportunity to generalize and to have a pop at one of our most successful managers (in winning percentage terms and getting us promoted to the Premier League as well as managing to maintain that status) solely based on three, maybe four minor incidents within one season that were and still are blown out of proportion.

 

Also, where exactly did he try and defend those dimwits´ actions in Thailand last summer?

 

As for the "being still unemployed" claim, he might as well have served his time under contractual obligations (prevented from taking a job for a full year or so).

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1.) Different squad, Kanté in particular from the new recruits has been pivotal.

2.) They didn't though, did they? It was excruciating the amount of times we came away from matches without a return on a really good performance.

Just to clarify I'm not defending the 75% statement, as if you can even quantify something like that, but yours is equally ridiculous.

Point 2, yes, they did, you only need to look at the thread of west broms interest in Vardy to see how many thought £5m was absolutely robbing them, and how many would have sold Mahrez for £3-5m to realise just how much better they have been this year.

And I haven't even started on Morgan, Kasper etc..

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Honest as always.

I think we'd all be bitter if we were in nige's position.

At least 75% of our achievements this season is down to him

Only 25% is down to the owners, coaching staff, scouts, Ranieri, players and the fans?

Crikey.

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Oh look, another anti-Pearson thread overloaded with the usual gremlins who can't appreciate not having to play Rotherham and Millwall any more.

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A giood but not great manager who lost his way cutting his teeth in the premiership. Wasn't able to utiilise or get the best out of the assets at his disposal for most of last season.

Excellent behind the scenes work which is fundamental to the success that we have had this season.

If he gets another Premier gig (and I hope he does) it will be intersting to see how he gets on. It would be interesting too see what he has learnt from his experience of last season.

Posted

Honest as always.

I think we'd all be bitter if we were in nige's position.

At least 75% of our achievements this season is down to him

 

 

Steady now.

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"Arrogance and hubris". lol

 

I will not miss "fans" like you who use every opportunity to generalize and to have a pop at one of our most successful managers (in winning percentage terms and getting us promoted to the Premier League as well as managing to maintain that status) solely based on three, maybe four minor incidents within one season that were and still are blown out of proportion.

 

Also, where exactly did he try and defend those dimwits´ actions in Thailand last summer?

 

As for the "being still unemployed" claim, he might as well have served his time under contractual obligations (prevented from taking a job for a full year or so).

 

I agree. I can't believe any true Leicester City fan can underestimate the work NP did here. Even if you hated his personality, his recruitment and how he built TWO, championship winning squads to take us from the third tier, will always be one of the highest achievements in our history a far as I'm concerned.

 

We've won nothing under Ranieri yet. We won two titles with Pearson. Those who say we are only up there because of Ranieri's tactics are missing the point, which is we are there because of the fantastic position the club was in, which is hugely down of Pearson.

 

Of course the owners backed him, but look at what Sven blew away in money terms, and he achieved very little. I suspect if Ranieri had taken over Sven's squad we'd be nowhere near the position we are in today.

 

Don't think I'm anti Ranieri, because I'm not and he has done a great job so far. I hope he becomes our most successful manager ever. But I'll never forget the work that NP put in.

 

I grew up watching Bloomfield's team, and have watched this team throughout the good and bad times. So just before anyone thinks Pearson is my be all and end all, I just see and appreciate the work NP did, as I did with Bloomfield, O'Neill and Little, and so should all true LCFC fans.

 

Even when NP annoyed me, I just remembered these: Levine, Megson, Taylor, McLintock, Hamilton. Pleat, and it soon puts things into perspective!

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I agree. I can't believe any true Leicester City fan can underestimate the work NP did here. Even if you hated his personality, his recruitment and how he built TWO, championship winning squads to take us from the third tier, will always be one of the highest achievements in our history a far as I'm concerned.

We've won nothing under Ranieri yet. We won two titles with Pearson. Those who say we are only up there because of Ranieri's tactics are missing the point, which is we are there because of the fantastic position the club was in, which is hugely down of Pearson.

Of course the owners backed him, but look at what Sven blew away in money terms, and he achieved very little. I suspect if Ranieri had taken over Sven's squad we'd be nowhere near the position we are in today.

Don't think I'm anti Ranieri, because I'm not and he has done a great job so far. I hope he becomes our most successful manager ever. But I'll never forget the work that NP put in.

I grew up watching Bloomfield's team, and have watched this team throughout the good and bad times. So just before anyone thinks Pearson is my be all and end all, I just see and appreciate the work NP did, as I did with Bloomfield, O'Neill and Little, and so should all true LCFC fans.

Even when NP annoyed me, I just remembered these: Levine, Megson, Taylor, McLintock, Hamilton. Pleat, and it soon puts things into perspective!

Agree with a lot of this.

Irrespective of whether people think NP is a bellend or not, no one can argue with how successful he was and the fact he reduced a wage bill and revamped a squad in dire straits and then led us back to the prem and kept us there.

Of course no one knows where we would be currently had he stayed so it's a ridiculous argument. But the fact remains that Nigel Pearson laid the foundations and more for what we're experiencing currently and i will be grateful for quite some time yet to him for that.

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Three strange things always happen in these threads. Firstly a group of people feels the need to justify the reign of a manager who took them from the third tier to the first, and kept them there, after which - with his squad still in situ - they went on to challenge for the league. This always strikes me as weird.

 

Secondly, a group of people emerge begrudging the achievements of said manager. They put this down to a whole host of surreal reasons, from him being a bit rude to his son being a fool, or from him being amply backed by funds (for half of the time he was here) to appointing a capable backroom staff whose success, in some way, is meant to detract from his.

 

Finally, and even more unusually, there's an argument wherein the people who hate the guy who transformed their club from perennial lower-league disappointments into a competitive top flight force start start accusing those who defend him of being fanatics who confuse the manager with some kind of deity; as opposed to fans who are simply stating the obvious truth that, yes, he was pretty good. They also argue that he's now irrelevant to the club, in spite of the fact that the squad is almost entirely comprised of players he bought, with backroom staff he assembled and a top flight status that he secured.

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Only 25% is down to the owners, coaching staff, scouts, Ranieri, players and the fans?

Crikey.

Coaching staff and scouts are here cos of NP! The owners have been amazing but let's not forget how they ran the club before bringing Pearson back, who then cleaned up the mess.

The team clicked when we went on that run at the end of last season and this season they've picked up where they left off along with a few additions such as Kante (who I believe we were after while Nige was still here)

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Coaching staff and scouts are here cos of NP! The owners have been amazing but let's not forget how they ran the club before bringing Pearson back, who then cleaned up the mess.

Nigel was here because of the owners?

Stupid argument.

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Coaching staff and scouts are here cos of NP! The owners have been amazing but let's not forget how they ran the club before bringing Pearson back, who then cleaned up the mess.

The team clicked when we went on that run at the end of last season and this season they've picked up where they left off along with a few additions such as Kante (who I believe we were after while Nige was still here)

Doesn't make sense, the owners got it wrong in the past, but were responsible for bringing Pearson in so they made the right appointment like they have done with Ranieri

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Coaching staff and scouts are here cos of NP! The owners have been amazing but let's not forget how they ran the club before bringing Pearson back, who then cleaned up the mess.

The team clicked when we went on that run at the end of last season and this season they've picked up where they left off along with a few additions such as Kante (who I believe we were after while Nige was still here)

We went on a run at the start of last season too, it seemed to have 'clicked' then..

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1.) Different squad, Kanté in particular from the new recruits has been pivotal.

2.) They didn't though, did they?  It was excruciating the amount of times we came away from matches without a return on a really good performance.

 

Just to clarify I'm not defending the 75% statement, as if you can even quantify something like that, but yours is equally ridiculous.

 

Not ridiculous at all. The team was bottom for weeks on end, and to suggest you play well to be bottom of the league is bizarre frankly. Youre obviously doing something wrong as youre being consistently beaten and need to look closer to home than bemoaning luck.

 

With regards to building the squad, he did build a squad, it was a squad most people largely thought needed substantial premier league improvement.

 

No one rated De Laet or Simpson, yet Simpson has played the majority of the season and is part of one of the meanest defenses in the league, not many people thought Morgan could cut it in the Premier League and was cumbersome, same argument now he is part of a mean defense, Drinkwater wasnt fancied and barely got a kick, ALbrighton only played at the very end of the season, He couldnt utilise Mahrez to the extent Ranieri has, Vardy had scored 5 goals. 5. And our main striking threat was Leo Ulloa, Kramaric being a total flop.

 

I could buy the "built the foundations" argument if the team needed subtle tweaks to it and it was already successful, but it wasnt.

 

Not at this level.

 

Ranieri has come in and far from not changing things, he HAS changed things.

 

If you always do what youve always done, youll always get what you always got.

 

Ranieri has put the team into a 4-4-2, implemented a more direct style where Pearson was focused more on controlling games, Implemented a higher press game and given license to creative and attacking players to cause more damage. These were all things Ranieri did that had no effect on Pearson.

 

Pearson's staff RIGHTLY get a lot of praise here, but what about the work Ranieri's staff do here that gets no mention whatsoever. I dont think ive ever seen Paolo Benetti's name mentioned ever, nor Andrea Azalin. Why? are they not as much a part of the success as Pearson's staff?

 

And finally, i think its interesting given the nature of Pearson's sacking, the outcry that followed on here in the aftermath, that the squad didnt seem to have any issues. Not one of them had made any murmur's of discontent at the sacking, sulked, wanted out, performances had become worse.......I think thats very interesting.

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