Leicester will win the title but I would be dishonest if I said I would be happy for everyone…

[hackneyfox]

"Arrogance and hubris".

 

I will not miss "fans" like you who use every opportunity to generalize and to have a pop at one of our most successful managers (in winning percentage terms and getting us promoted to the Premier League as well as managing to maintain that status) solely based on three, maybe four minor incidents within one season that were and still are blown out of proportion.

 

Also, where exactly did he try and defend those dimwits´ actions in Thailand last summer?

 

As for the "being still unemployed" claim, he might as well have served his time under contractual obligations (prevented from taking a job for a full year or so).

Fans of clubs he's rumoured to be joining never seem too happy due to those incidents last year, I don't know anyone who likes him apart from Leicester fans, rightly or wrongly many believe he is arrogant.

 

Yeah but the "pro" Pearson posters (like myself - I admit) only react to a stupid comment from a "anti" Pearson fan who seems to have forgot where this club was before Pearson (on two occassions). I'm pretty sure we're the only club in the World who hasn't got a fanbase 100% behind one of the club's most successful managers ever and quite frankly, those who still cannot appreciate what he achieved here (on and off the pitch - twice) have obviously got something personal against him. 

 

And quite frankly I get fed up of every thread turning into Pearson v Reneiri. "Ohh but Pearson wouldn't have us top of the league" "Ohh but Pearson couldn't handle big names" "Ohh but Pearson didn't actually manage us during our survival". Boring like and I don't know why the mods don't lock the topic(s) given every other topic is locked if it explodes into a boring and pointless debate.

I'm pretty sure we were the only club in the World who didn't have a fanbase 100% behind sacking him on day 139 at the bottom.

 

If you find this boring and pointless why do you feel the need to read let alone post? 

[TJB-fox]

****ing hell, just appreciate what Pearson did for us and what Ranieri is doing, regardless of what you think of their personalities. And I'm sorry but if you fail to see/appreciate what Pearson has done here you're a ****ing ostrich.

Funny thing is I never see Martin O'Neil V Ranieri on here so why should Pearson be compared to him?

[Donut]

because O'Neill hasnt made a controversial quote.

 

There is occasional debate around the great team O'Neill had and the team we have now, led by what would probably go down as our two best ever managers, definitely our best two if Ranieri wins the league.

[TJB-fox]

because O'Neill hasnt made a controversial quote.

There is occasional debate around the great team O'Neill had and the team we have now, led by what would probably go down as our two best ever managers, definitely our best two if Ranieri wins the league.

Forget this quote there's probably been Pearson V Ranieri comparison every week since he left!

[MC Prussian]

Fans of clubs he's rumoured to be joining never seem too happy due to those incidents last year, I don't know anyone who likes him apart from Leicester fans, rightly or wrongly many believe he is arrogant.

 

To be fair, whenever I read posts on opposing forum discussing the probability of Pearson joining their team, I find that a majority is able to look past the media persona Nigel Pearson and focus on his achievements as a manager and creative force in terms of scouting and motivation.

 

I won't let the misguided comments of a few distract from the overall picture. And that's still very positive.

[MC Prussian]

because O'Neill hasnt made a controversial quote.

 

There is occasional debate around the great team O'Neill had and the team we have now, led by what would probably go down as our two best ever managers, definitely our best two if Ranieri wins the league.

I'm sure he has at one point or at least made a few comments here or there away from the cameras and notepads of journalists or media representatives. Ten, fifteen years down the line - who still cares, though? The sportive success O'Neill achieved will always outshine his media persona or the way the managed the team or the tone he used to get there.

 

I do hope the minority of people taking offence at Pearson's public displays as LCFC manager will look back at his era at this club the same way. Because that's what he ought to be remembered for.

[Rob1742]

I think Ranieri wouldn't have had a chance if Pearson hadn't done the groundwork.

He created the strong group mentality that gives every chance for success.

Then Ranieri cleverly kept that together, added to it and has created an even better atmosphere for the players to work under.

I firmly believe this has only worked due to both managers ways of working and the fortunate situation of one of them following on from the other.

Ranieri is a decent manager, but his record proves he isn't Alex Ferguson, so needed a good base to work from that Pearson provided.

I would never knock Pearson, he did an amazing job, and so is Ranieri now.

[Leicester_Numan]

Why does it always have to turn into a Pearson v Ranieri debate? Why are there still so many people unwilling to give Pearson credit or trying to detract from his achievements?

You've only got to go back to the beginning of the season and what Ranieri said. Pearson put strong foundations in place, now it was up to him to build the house.

In time, it may require another manager to put the roof on. If it does, that still shouldn't take anything away from what Pearson and Ranieri put in place. In that case, just give them the credit they deserve and accept they were both good managers of our club.

[Fox92]

Why does it always have to turn into a Pearson v Ranieri debate? Why are there still so many people unwilling to give Pearson credit or trying to detract from his achievements?

You've only got to go back to the beginning of the season and what Ranieri said. Pearson put strong foundations in place, now it was up to him to build the house.

In time, it may require another manager to put the roof on. If it does, that still shouldn't take anything away from what Pearson and Ranieri put in place. In that case, just give them the credit they deserve and accept they were both good managers of our club.

 

Exactly my point! 

[elvisfmcfly]

I think Ranieri wouldn't have had a chance if Pearson hadn't done the groundwork.

He created the strong group mentality that gives every chance for success.

Then Ranieri cleverly kept that together, added to it and has created an even better atmosphere for the players to work under.

I firmly believe this has only worked due to both managers ways of working and the fortunate situation of one of them following on from the other.

Ranieri is a decent manager, but his record proves he isn't Alex Ferguson, so needed a good base to work from that Pearson provided.

I would never knock Pearson, he did an amazing job, and so is Ranieri now.

How many other managers records prove they are Alex Ferguson?

[Gerard]

Horses for courses and as ruthless as it sound the baton was handed over at the right time.

 

Pearson excels as a firefighter and done a brilliant job in clearing out SGE's rubbish and rebuilding the club as efficiently as he has. He probably has a different skill set to Ranieri as Claudio probably doesn't have the patience or know how to do what big Nige did.

 

Ranieri is more tactically astute and experienced in the highest levels of the game and knows more about what's needed. Ranieri turned our relegation level defence if you judge it by goals conceded to arguably the meanest in the country without changing the personnel of the squad, the man obviously knows what he's doing and has slightly tinkered to take us into a team capable of winning a title. I think we all would say we wouldn't be in this position under Pearson but both were the right men at the right time and we've been very lucky.

[seenitall]

Definitely a pop at @@seenitall

 

- bet you're all glad I was right about him though........

[volpeazzurro]

Horses for courses and as ruthless as it sound the baton was handed over at the right time.

Pearson excels as a firefighter and done a brilliant job in clearing out SGE's rubbish and rebuilding the club as efficiently as he has. He probably has a different skill set to Ranieri as Claudio probably doesn't have the patience or know how to do what big Nige did.

Ranieri is more tactically astute and experienced in the highest levels of the game and knows more about what's needed. Ranieri turned our relegation level defence if you judge it by goals conceded to arguably the meanest in the country without changing the personnel of the squad, the man obviously knows what he's doing and has slightly tinkered to take us into a team capable of winning a title. I think we all would say we wouldn't be in this position under Pearson but both were the right men at the right time and we've been very lucky.

I agree with this. Pearson was the right person at the right time and we should all be greatful for the job he did. However, Ranieri is a class above and I was one of the one's (not wishing to appear conceited) was excited about appointment at the time as his football antecedence stands up to scrutiny. His changes may appear subtle or like tinkering round the edges but I disagree, I think he's made some massive changes as we have progressed. As for Pearson personally, whilst we don't know the full ins and outs, he was undoubtedly the author of his own downfall and in that respect I have little sympathy for him but wish him well for the future.

[NeilLCFC]

I think Ranieri wouldn't have had a chance if Pearson hadn't done the groundwork.

He created the strong group mentality that gives every chance for success.

Then Ranieri cleverly kept that together, added to it and has created an even better atmosphere for the players to work under.

I firmly believe this has only worked due to both managers ways of working and the fortunate situation of one of them following on from the other.

Ranieri is a decent manager, but his record proves he isn't Alex Ferguson, so needed a good base to work from that Pearson provided.

I would never knock Pearson, he did an amazing job, and so is Ranieri now.

This!! 100% agreed.

CR walked into the easiet job going in football, Pearson had already put everything in place for him.

[ImBlue]

Yeah, other than two promotions and keeping us in the premier league... seems like he got the best out of them enough to achieve the goals that were set him. And you can't really say for certain whether Ranieri is getting more than Pearson could, as it's a very different squad to the one we operated with the first half of last season. Not only in terms of players, but also their experience.

I don't know why people can't just leave it, Pearson built all the behind the scenes stuff up with the owners backing. He left not only a great backroom team and decent squad, but a great mentality. Ranieri has taken over and tactically he's been brilliant. Whether long term he can build a team and a squad like Pearson did, not only with the quality but also keeping the correct mentality... only time will tell.

He got enough out of them to achieve promotion, granted which was an excellent acheivement.

But got the 'BEST' out of them? I don't think he ever has. It's not just experience that's transformed Morgan, Drinkwater, Vardy and Mahrez this season.

All I see is credit for Pearson for bringing in a good back room staff setup. It's not like Walsh didn't have a good reputation anyway, hence why the owners paid a 7 figure sum to bring them here.

Unfortunately for Pearson, his back room/scouting set up did a much better job than he did. Tactically he was poor for the majority of the season and under utilised te squad at his disposal, while creating terrible headlines over and over again.

Not sure why he is angry at the owners, I personally thought they were good to him, not many other managers would have made the end of the season. He is now, after the greatest survival ever, in a better position to get a good job.

[ImBlue]

This!! 100% agreed.

CR walked into the easiet job going in football, Pearson had already put everything in place for him.

Pearson, or the owners and Walsh etc?

Some people seem to think everyone at the club was Pearsons employees. The owners paid for his back room staff from Hull, and we still have them after he's gone?

[Jimbo]

This!! 100% agreed.

CR walked into the easiet job going in football, Pearson had already put everything in place for him.

I agree with what's being said, but it wasn't an easy job. It would have been more appropriate to describe it as easy if we were looking comfortable in mid table, no real threat or relegation and maybe looking at a top 10 finish if we were lucky. That would have been an improvement on last year.

What Claudio has done has massively improved our team. It was far from easy to take what he had been given and unlock the masses of potential in our squad. Yes the groundwork was in place, and claudio couldn't have done what he has without Pearson doing what he did. But it was far from an easy job to mould us into a team competing for a champions league spot

[katieakita]

Will always be a big what if for Nigel, we will never know but you cannot keep going on about Claudio riding on the back of Nigel's success. Nigel did a fantastic job for the club and it was a huge decision for the club to replace him, hindsight is a wonderful gift and many on here owe Susan Whelan who came out in public calling for our trust in the managements decision a big apology. The club's management has been proved right and we have progressed so maybe Nigel is looking at himself, he can take so much credit for what he has achieved but the what if must make him wonder, Nigel has not left the club penniless and has been well rewarded but we have moved on. Claudio has taken us so much further and also off the field the club and its image has grown leaps and bounds so on we go. 

 

As for Claudio managing in the turbulent European leagues has had an impact on his career, you get very little time in the European leagues, you can win domestic trophies or even the CL and still get shown the door. Claudio has managed very good teams but never quite the best or title favourites but by and large he has had success in his career. He laid the foundations at Chelsea and they have become a major contender (this season excluded) and given a longer tenure could well have achieved what his predecessors have done. Sir Alex Ferguson was given time something Claudio never has, given the resources at his disposal and time personally think Claudio could have achieved all Arsene Wenger has at Arsenal 

[EnglishOxide]

But got the 'BEST' out of them? I don't think he ever has.

Whoa whoa what? You think we should have improved on our 100+ pts Championship winning season and 14th in the PL (although admittedly I do think we would have been worth 12th or 11th) at the first time of asking?

[AyewJoking]

maybe he wouldnt be happy for all the posters on here who criticise him?

 

i was absolutely gutted when pearson was sacked. i felt he would build on the great escape and establish us in the top flight.

 

i felt his sacking was a big step backwards but insanely things have got a million times better

[Zola]

It is good to be sentimental but it is ridicules to compare top Championship coach with top PL coach.

 

But, let me say few words which most of you already know about Nige and “his” team.

 

Did his team finished in top 5 places to deserve a credit, or fans should be just thankful to him and for great education of his son for favour they done to fans. Not only of LCFC but all real football fans, and as some commentators on video bellow will tell you that "if championship is won this year, it will be the biggest story in history of world football and that even qualification in CL would be biggest story in history of PL". (or something like that)

 

So who did build foundation for Chelsea before the first spell of Jose?  

Lets just remind ourselves what Ranieri has done in 4 years at Chelsea; 6, 6, 4 and 2nd place in his last season when Arsenal never lost single game!  You could see improvement season after season and guy for 2 years did not even speak English. In Ranieri 3rd year he spent 0 on transfers and managed to qualify for CL football.

 

That was in 2004, in 2009 he earned 2nd place with Juve, in 2010 2nd with Roma went to the last game (against Jose who inherited his winning team from Mancini) , 2013 won championship with Monaco and 2014 2^nd place with Monaco.

 

Before that, CR saved Parma from relegation when there were last (very similar to what Nige did last 7-8 games last season), with the difference that Claudio took a team in middle of season and lead to 12^th place!

 

 

But more importantly Ranieri made a team which Jose had and won his first PL for Chelsea and few more, and after those PL wins, no one ever mentioned Ranieri. Where is Ranieri credit?  Did CR ever talked in papers like Nige is talking now, and even if he did, he should truly deserve it, right!?

 

Nige, is very disrespectful to former owners and Ranieri and now it seems that if foxes don't win PL it will be Ranieri fault as he is putting Leicester team as clear favorites and if foxes win, its because of him of course.

And Nige is saying that Ranieri would never find a team like LCFC where everything was in place etc..

Give me a brake, how about Jose and what he found when he joined CFC?

 

 

NP had a team for most of the season at the bottom with Vardy scoring 5 in 34 games (under Ranieri 19 goals in 26 games), Merez last year scoring the same 5 in his 30 games (now 14 goals in 25 games) then compare this with scoring of Kramaric and Uloa who never scored or rarely played, but Vardy, Merez, and whole team are playing way better then ever before…

Or how come defense is so great now? Don't tell me its because of Kante and Fuchs because you have top 6 PL teams who spent millions and can’t get their team work as well as City as its not only about buying most expensive players. 

 

However biggest problem of Ranieri is that he is too nice.

 

 

Thats all what CFC fan on your forum wanted to say.

 

Check the video and enjoy while you can as next year will be very difficult to qualify even for uefa..

 

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[UpTheLeagueFox]

I think Ranieri wouldn't have had a chance if Pearson hadn't done the groundwork.

He created the strong group mentality that gives every chance for success.

Then Ranieri cleverly kept that together, added to it and has created an even better atmosphere for the players to work under.

I firmly believe this has only worked due to both managers ways of working and the fortunate situation of one of them following on from the other.

Ranieri is a decent manager, but his record proves he isn't Alex Ferguson, so needed a good base to work from that Pearson provided.

I would never knock Pearson, he did an amazing job, and so is Ranieri now.

 

You've nailed it there. Spot on.

[ImBlue]

Whoa whoa what? You think we should have improved on our 100+ pts Championship winning season and 14th in the PL (although admittedly I do think we would have been worth 12th or 11th) at the first time of asking?

I think he met expectation in the championship winning season. Let's be honest and look at the squad he had in Kasper, Morgan, Drinkwater, Mahrez, Vardy. It would have been criminal not to get promoted.

[Guest Col city fan]

You've nailed it there. Spot on.

The BEST thing that Ranieri has done is this: he retained what he immediately saw as a confident and enthusiastic group of players. It was crucial he didn't come in and wield the axe. He has then added some humility, some humour and tactical experience to get them playing even better.

Kante in and Cambiasso out has also been absolutely crucial. But I think Kante had already signed and Cambiasso already left?

Whatever..The minimal changes has worked brilliantly.

[AyewJoking]

i heard/ read ranieri wasnt keen on kante so its a bloody good job someone persuaded him!