LanguedocFox Posted 5 May 2016 Posted 5 May 2016 On RL Stringer was interviewing a chap outside the KP tuesday night and when he paid tribute to Pearson he just went 'yeah' and changed the subject really quickly. Not really impressed with that, I didn't listen to the whole show but hoped they gave him the due credit. Stringer's a clown. And a bitter one at that.
LanguedocFox Posted 5 May 2016 Posted 5 May 2016 It's hard to digest so much misinformation. O'Neill inherited almost the entire defence from the Little era - Poole in goal, Grayson right back, Whitlow left back, Hill and Walsh in the middle. He also still had Carey on the books when he first came. Of those players, only Walsh was signed by another manager, though Walsh himself would say that Little was the making of him. Then there was Lewis on the left, Joachim on the right - both youth team products brought on by Little. The sale of the latter would fund the purchases of Claridge and Lennon. Up front there was Roberts. Walsh was a key part of O'Neill's success in the top flight. Grayson and Whitlow played significant roles too. Poole and Roberts also had a big say in us going up in 1996, which made it all possible. And, of course, when Little took over us in 1991 we were considered a comparable or smaller side, with comparable or lower attendances than all sorts of clubs - Luton, Notts County, Port Vale, Plymouth, Bristol Rovers, Southend, Swindon, Grimsby, Oxford, Cambridge - who would have been long since left behind by the time O'Neill arrived. It was because of Little that we didn't go the same way as them. As for saying Pearson has no part in this, well, that's just laughable. The only first team regular this season who wasn't signed by Pearson, had been a major target of Pearson. The scouting for the squad was done by the network installed by Pearson. He was the guy who brought the team up from the third tier to the first, kept them there, and actually began the run of form which ended in a title. Most of the backroom staff, as well as players, were appointed by him. As for 'refusing to play Albrighton' - well, he signed him and had him as a fixture in the side by the end of the season. And 'refused to play five across midfield until the end' - well, he did actually do that, didn't he? And we finished 14th. Whether the wins came in April or October hardly matters. If you read the various histories written about our club, the man generally credited with being the first ever to craft a quality team was Peter Hodge. His highest league finish was 17th, his successor made it to 2nd with the same side, and was relatively unpopular because people were so keen to credit Hodge, much like Clough was still getting credit when Derby won their second title. Ranieri is our best ever manager, that's clear. But to say Pearson has nothing to do with this would be ungrateful beyond words. And I, while we're at it, got accused of being ungrateful to Pearson more than once. Yes, he may well only have himself to blame for having left, and I'm sure we wouldn't have won the title had he been in charge. But credit where due, surely - his contribution to this was immense. Well said. Pearson dug us out of the crap twice - once when he took over from Holloway, the second time when he had to clear up the Eriksson mess. He brought in the whole of the key backroom team on which Ranieri relies, and he was instrumental in developing the sports-science and fitness set-up. Takes nothing away from Ranieri's achievement to recognise Pearson's contribution. Thanks Nigel.
indierich06 Posted 5 May 2016 Posted 5 May 2016 These Pearson threads and Pearson should take some credit for this season, are pathetic I appreciate that Pearson got us in the premier league, recruited a lot of the players, and kept us up( Esteban allegedly had a lot to do with the tactics). But to keep bringing his name up for me is insulting and undermining of Claudio's achievement. Pearson played no part in this season, and I believe if he was still here, we would be nowhere near the top. Claudio, Shakespeare and the CURRENT staff, have got it tactically got it spot on all season. So I have as much interest in hearing Pearson's opinion, as I have any other pundit, none. So can we leave Pearson in the past, and talk about Claudio and his achievements, he is the present and hopefully the future, and the man who has gave us something we have never achieved before. It's all about Claudio now What's pathetic is thinking that people who appreciate the work that Pearson did for the club is 'insulting and undermining' (wtf??) Claudio Ranieri. What's pathetic is people like you who think Pearson's name is tantamount to a swear word on this forum, and that we should cease to even mention the bloke. What's pathetic is this continued bizarre attempt to take away anything he achieved at this club, whether it's baseless claims about Cambiasso running the team, or Pearson having nothing to do with the sports science department at the club, or the recruitment of players like Vardy, Mahrez and the rest. I will never understand the people who seem to take umbridge at people looking back fondly at a former manager who many people think had a lot to do with setting the club up for this amazing season. When Pearson was here, and there were occasional threads looking back at the MON days, I didn't hear these same users piping up with 'ANOTHER thread about MON?! It's in the past, he's gone, get over it!'. Here's a handy hint for the future, if you don't want to see any more posts about Nigel Pearson, then it's probably best you don't click on any threads with the words 'Nigel' or 'Pearson' in the title, then we won't have to read any more boring posts telling us that we're idiots for even talking about the bloke and that his only achievements were down to the ****ing Cambiasso/Shakespeare/Walsh/Rennie dream team.
theessexfox Posted 5 May 2016 Posted 5 May 2016 Not sure why my thread on him got deleted, given 62 people repped the original post
Monsell1976 Posted 5 May 2016 Posted 5 May 2016 What's pathetic is thinking that people who appreciate the work that Pearson did for the club is 'insulting and undermining' (wtf??) Claudio Ranieri. What's pathetic is people like you who think Pearson's name is tantamount to a swear word on this forum, and that we should cease to even mention the bloke. What's pathetic is this continued bizarre attempt to take away anything he achieved at this club, whether it's baseless claims about Cambiasso running the team, or Pearson having nothing to do with the sports science department at the club, or the recruitment of players like Vardy, Mahrez and the rest. I will never understand the people who seem to take umbridge at people looking back fondly at a former manager who many people think had a lot to do with setting the club up for this amazing season. When Pearson was here, and there were occasional threads looking back at the MON days, I didn't hear these same users piping up with 'ANOTHER thread about MON?! It's in the past, he's gone, get over it!'. Here's a handy hint for the future, if you don't want to see any more posts about Nigel Pearson, then it's probably best you don't click on any threads with the words 'Nigel' or 'Pearson' in the title, then we won't have to read any more boring posts telling us that we're idiots for even talking about the bloke and that his only achievements were down to the ****ing Cambiasso/Shakespeare/Walsh/Rennie dream team. So from now until the end of time, any team or managers achievement, we must refer back to Pearson, even though like this season, he's had no part in it.If you bothered to read, I said, I appreciated what he had done in the past, but that's where he is, Claudio has got the best out of the players, to the point of over achieving, so to say Pearson has influenced the achievement, is weak. A bit of advise, I don't really care what you think of my post, and follow your own advice, don't like my post, don't read it. It is my opinion, and don't believe we should still be going on about a previous manager, after another manager has surpassed anything any manager has done here, in 132 years, not even the great MON.
Guest Col city fan Posted 5 May 2016 Posted 5 May 2016 That you choose to comment on Indeed. When I read so much rubbish in the same thread I feel compelled to.
indierich06 Posted 5 May 2016 Posted 5 May 2016 So from now until the end of time, any team or managers achievement, we must refer back to Pearson, even though like this season, he's had no part in it. If you bothered to read, I said, I appreciated what he had done in the past, but that's where he is, Claudio has got the best out of the players, to the point of over achieving, so to say Pearson has influenced the achievement, is weak. A bit of advise, I don't really care what you think of my post, and follow your own advice, don't like my post, don't read it. It is my opinion, and don't believe we should still be going on about a previous manager, after another manager has surpassed anything any manager has done here, in 132 years, not even the great MON. You don't *have* to do anything, that's the whole point. If you don't want to read about him anymore, don't come into threads with his name in the bloody title. What does it matter to you if other people are talking about Pearson? What does it matter to anyone? Are you worried Claudio is going to log in, sift through the 30,000 Ranieri threads and see a couple of Pearson ones and feel 'insulted' and 'undermined'? There are plenty of threads and subforums on this forum that I have no interest in - so, funnily enough, I ignore them. Y'know, rather than going in, reading all the posts and then replying and trying to antagonise and berate people for having the temerity to talk about that particular topic in the first place.
indierich06 Posted 5 May 2016 Posted 5 May 2016 Indeed. When I read so much rubbish in the same thread I feel compelled to. So if you've got no interest in threads about Nigel Pearson, why did you enter a thread with his name in the title? Handy tip for the future, if you want to avoid the 'rubbish' then don't go on threads about things that you apparently have no interest in.
foxfanazer Posted 5 May 2016 Posted 5 May 2016 Indeed. When I read so much rubbish in the same thread I feel compelled to.You talk a good deal of rubbish tbf
Monsell1976 Posted 5 May 2016 Posted 5 May 2016 You don't *have* to do anything, that's the whole point. If you don't want to read about him anymore, don't come into threads with his name in the bloody title. What does it matter to you if other people are talking about Pearson? What does it matter to anyone? Are you worried Claudio is going to log in, sift through the 30,000 Ranieri threads and see a couple of Pearson ones and feel 'insulted' and 'undermined'? There are plenty of threads and subforums on this forum that I have no interest in - so, funnily enough, I ignore them. Y'know, rather than going in, reading all the posts and then replying and trying to antagonise and berate people for having the temerity to talk about that particular topic in the first place. Oh dear toys have come out the pram.Let me put this in English for you, I came into the thread, as I had an opinion on it, so I did, as I feel this season should be about Claudio and His team, if you don't like it, as You say, don't reply, ignore it, and just comment on the post you like, as you clearly can't handle, any other opinion
Matt Posted 5 May 2016 Posted 5 May 2016 It honestly wouldn't surprise me if he was bitter as **** about all this tbh Even though he came out and said he'd be happy for most people? Ok, you could argue there is a slight bit of bitterness towards someone/a group decide between yourselves whom they are (and I'm not sure that it's necessarily aimed at the owners) but on a whole he's happy for most. But ultimately some of the fans hated him for one reason or another so whilst i'd imagine he'd be happy for the fans, very happy, a few of the fans may go in the section of people he's not happy for and I can totally understand that. Nigel Pearson will be happy for most people if Leicester win Premier League. Nigel Pearson expects Leicester City to win the Premier League and will be happy for most people at the club if they do. Pearson was relieved of his duties at the King Power Stadium last June after being critical of the way the club had dealt with a disciplinary process against his son James, one of three players sacked after an incident on a tour of Thailand. Claudio Ranieri replaced Pearson and early projections that the Foxes would be one of the favourites for relegation were soon thrown out of the window. Their decent start to the season extended into taking top spot in the Premier League, a position they still hold by two points with 12 games remaining. Pearson oversaw their turnaround in form at the end of last season - they won seven of their last nine games - and feels that run is deserving of credit when it comes around to talking about this season's improvement in form. Asked about Leicester's title chances in an exclusive interview with the Times, Pearson said: "They'll win it. I think they'll win the Premier League. "Why? Because they won't be distracted by the hype. A lot of people in the game haven't really sussed what Leicester are about. "They've got some really good players. Jamie Vardy's form has been unbelievable - but collectively they are a bloody strong group. They're extremely resilient. "They coped with the pressure extremely well last year and they are doing the same this year. They won't be interested in what anyone else says. They are concentrating on themselves, playing to their strengths and their identity whereas, to me. a lot of other sides have lost their way. Leicester have no fear, good luck to them. Pearson admits there would be 'mixed feelings' if Leicester do go on and win the title, with the bitterness at his departure still clear. "It would be a mixture of feelings, let's be honest" he added. "I would be delighted for a lot of people there - players, staff and fans - but I would be dishonest if I said I would be happy for everyone there. Of course, I wouldn't be. "Leicester are where they are because they've had a fantastic season and because their manager has managed skilfully and sensibly, but also because they previously had someone in charge who was able to front it up and make tough decisions when they needed to be made. I know how pivotal the work I did for them to be in the situation they're in now." http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11712/10172844/nigel-pearson-will-be-happy-for-most-people-if-leicester-win-premier-league
The Horse's Mouth Posted 5 May 2016 Posted 5 May 2016 It is pretty hilarious that even a premier league win couldn't suppress an argument between pro pearson and anti pearson.
indierich06 Posted 5 May 2016 Posted 5 May 2016 Oh dear toys have come out the pram. Let me put this in English for you, I came into the thread, as I had an opinion on it, so I did, as I feel this season should be about Claudio and His team, if you don't like it, as You say, don't reply, ignore it, and just comment on the post you like, as you clearly can't handle, any other opinion The toys have come out of the pram? This from the bloke who came into this thread crying about people disrespecting and insulting the achievements of Claudio Ranieri by talking about another manager? Alright mate. And if anyone in here 'can't handle any other opinion' it's you, considering you felt the need to enter a thread about someone you 'don't care about' to tell us all how very wrong we are. I think Kasabian are shit, so I don't go into any of the threads about them on this forum and tell everyone they're ****ing idiots for liking them. But you do what you want mate, fill your boots. Just don't be surprised when people call you out on why the hell you're bothering when you claim it annoys you so much.
Monsell1976 Posted 5 May 2016 Posted 5 May 2016 The toys have come out of the pram? This from the bloke who came into this thread crying about people disrespecting and insulting the achievements of Claudio Ranieri by talking about another manager? Alright mate. And if anyone in here 'can't handle any other opinion' it's you, considering you felt the need to enter a thread about someone you 'don't care about' to tell us all how very wrong we are. I think Kasabian are shit, so I don't go into any of the threads about them on this forum and tell everyone they're ****ing idiots for liking them. But you do what you want mate, fill your boots. Just don't be surprised when people call you out on why the hell you're bothering when you claim it annoys you so much. I'm not crying, just stating an opinion, people can say what they want, the forum is here for that.Calling me out , trying to shout down, but my opinion and reason for coming on the thread remains. It's turning into a battle of wills now, and I'm bored, the time typing about a previous manager, I will never get back. I think it's time to agree to disagree, you clearly have your opinion and I have mine. End
Izzy Posted 5 May 2016 Posted 5 May 2016 Would be lovely to hear from him, even if its a short statement to a journo. He must be incredibly proud of what he built here and our achievements since he left. He probably doesn't want to be seen to be reflecting in the glory, but let him as he deserves to. I think he's doing the right thing in keeping a low profile. Many journo's and pundits are referencing the job he did and the foundations he laid, so they're doing the talking for him really.
dogadug Posted 5 May 2016 Posted 5 May 2016 Not sure why my thread on him got deleted, given 62 people repped the original post Most important question there is did you get to keep the rep points?
murphy Posted 5 May 2016 Posted 5 May 2016 It's hard to digest so much misinformation. O'Neill inherited almost the entire defence from the Little era - Poole in goal, Grayson right back, Whitlow left back, Hill and Walsh in the middle. He also still had Carey on the books when he first came. Of those players, only Walsh was signed by another manager, though Walsh himself would say that Little was the making of him. Then there was Lewis on the left, Joachim on the right - both youth team products brought on by Little. The sale of the latter would fund the purchases of Claridge and Lennon. Up front there was Roberts. Walsh was a key part of O'Neill's success in the top flight. Grayson and Whitlow played significant roles too. Poole and Roberts also had a big say in us going up in 1996, which made it all possible. And, of course, when Little took over us in 1991 we were considered a comparable or smaller side, with comparable or lower attendances than all sorts of clubs - Luton, Notts County, Port Vale, Plymouth, Bristol Rovers, Southend, Swindon, Grimsby, Oxford, Cambridge - who would have been long since left behind by the time O'Neill arrived. It was because of Little that we didn't go the same way as them. As for saying Pearson has no part in this, well, that's just laughable. The only first team regular this season who wasn't signed by Pearson, had been a major target of Pearson. The scouting for the squad was done by the network installed by Pearson. He was the guy who brought the team up from the third tier to the first, kept them there, and actually began the run of form which ended in a title. Most of the backroom staff, as well as players, were appointed by him. As for 'refusing to play Albrighton' - well, he signed him and had him as a fixture in the side by the end of the season. And 'refused to play five across midfield until the end' - well, he did actually do that, didn't he? And we finished 14th. Whether the wins came in April or October hardly matters. If you read the various histories written about our club, the man generally credited with being the first ever to craft a quality team was Peter Hodge. His highest league finish was 17th, his successor made it to 2nd with the same side, and was relatively unpopular because people were so keen to credit Hodge, much like Clough was still getting credit when Derby won their second title. Ranieri is our best ever manager, that's clear. But to say Pearson has nothing to do with this would be ungrateful beyond words. And I, while we're at it, got accused of being ungrateful to Pearson more than once. Yes, he may well only have himself to blame for having left, and I'm sure we wouldn't have won the title had he been in charge. But credit where due, surely - his contribution to this was immense. It is fair to say that Pearson laid foundations for Ranieri as most of the team are his players, but come on, Little left more than a year before MON arrived and any players (except Walsh) were disposed of and replaced. MON's success was built entirely on his own palyers - Flowers, Keller, Taggart, Elliott, SInclair, Sav, Lennon, Izzet, Claridge, Cottee, Impey, Marshall, Guppy etc etc Heskey made his debut in 1995 - Little left in November 94.
theessexfox Posted 5 May 2016 Posted 5 May 2016 Most important question there is did you get to keep the rep points? Yeah they've stayed, that's all that counts I guess.
Guest Col city fan Posted 5 May 2016 Posted 5 May 2016 You talk a good deal of rubbish tbfYou claimed he 'is an honourable man' FFAI can't see much 'honour' in wrestling a player to the ground, telling a fan to fook off and die and laying into a journalist who was merely doing his job. Finally, having a son like James hardly brings 'honour' to the family? Hence the reply. I do wonder whether Pearson regrets being such a berk. If he had kept composed I don't think he'd have been sacked. Then again, I have a feeling he's probably so arrogant he thought he was probably right doing what he did. As did many on this forum.
Unabomber Posted 5 May 2016 Posted 5 May 2016 You claimed he 'is an honourable man' FFA I can't see much 'honour' in wrestling a player to the ground, telling a fan to fook off and die and laying into a journalist who was merely doing his job. Finally, having a son like James hardly brings 'honour' to the family? Hence the reply. I do wonder whether Pearson regrets being such a berk. If he had kept composed I don't think he'd have been sacked. Then again, I have a feeling he's probably so arrogant he thought he was probably right doing what he did. As did many on this forum. I agree heroic would've been more apt.
sdb Posted 5 May 2016 Posted 5 May 2016 Love/d NP but I do think he'll be (at least partly) very pissed off about this. He was just that type.
ousefox Posted 5 May 2016 Posted 5 May 2016 I'm gonna start a rumour that Jeffrey Schlupp actually picks the team and is a tactical mastermind not seen in Leicester since Esteban Cambiasso.
Oxshottfox Posted 5 May 2016 Posted 5 May 2016 Do you think there was some clause in his contract or notice period that meant as long as he did not take a job elsewhere in a certain period he picks up some performance related pay for winning the premier league? I have seen this in work contracts where prowl get paid some deferred bonuses as long as they don't take a job elsewhere within a certain period. Would explain why he has not got another job
Hirsty The Blue 94 Posted 5 May 2016 Posted 5 May 2016 I think it shows the class of the bloke. He could easily have been on every tv and radio show as well as numerous paper pullouts in the last week but he hasn't. I'm sure he is absolutely delighted that largely his lads have gone on to achieve this, as well as his good friends on the staff. I'm not sure you can overstate the man's influence on the title win. The scouting team was assembled by him, the players almost to a man assembled by him, the sports science attitude was brought into the club by him. The fast counter attacking style of play was introduced by him at the back end of last season. Claudio has added to this by introducing a tactical nous that Pearson did not have, as well as bringing a charm to his approach to the media. The best way to describe it is as like we have had 2 managers, with ones past work continuing to provide the foundations to allow the current team to flourish.
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