Struwwelpeter60 Posted 22 December 2016 Posted 22 December 2016 1. In American Football there is an automatic review after every score. Why not doing the same after every goal and penalty decision in football. The necessary technical gear is already in place. 2. Regarding the Red Card: I would ask, why Vardy was trying to make a tackle 5 yards away from our box, at all? At a time, when the score was 0:0. In a situation, that didn't pose a real threat to our team. To lung for that ball, in such a way, was a foolish decision by Vardy. By now, he should know, that not too many referees are members of his fan-club.
jammie82uk Posted 22 December 2016 Posted 22 December 2016 37 minutes ago, Struwwelpeter60 said: 1. In American Football there is an automatic review after every score. Why not doing the same after every goal and penalty decision in football. The necessary technical gear is already in place. 2. Regarding the Red Card: I would ask, why Vardy was trying to make a tackle 5 yards away from our box, at all? At a time, when the score was 0:0. In a situation, that didn't pose a real threat to our team. To lung for that ball, in such a way, was a foolish decision by Vardy. By now, he should know, that not too many referees are members of his fan-club. But American football is a slow game 60 mins gametime is spread over 4 hours
Guest Posted 22 December 2016 Posted 22 December 2016 4 minutes ago, jammie82uk said: But American football is a slow game 60 mins gametime is spread over 4 hours I don't think anyone is suggesting we stop the clock every time it goes out for a throw in
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 22 December 2016 Posted 22 December 2016 2 hours ago, HighPeakFox said: There were plenty of decisions that went our way last season, we just remember the bad ones.... On the off chance you have time on your hands - what were the Ines that went our way? If its a long long list I'll have trawl through the deep reaches of my mind to counter the argument!
jammie82uk Posted 22 December 2016 Posted 22 December 2016 1 hour ago, Emilio Lestavez said: I don't think anyone is suggesting we stop the clock every time it goes out for a throw in I never said they did I was replying to the automatic review after each goal In NFL they have individual plays, a valid start and end point there is plenty of time to do replays between plays as the players reset in our game how would you decide where the 'play' has started?
Guest Posted 22 December 2016 Posted 22 December 2016 2 minutes ago, jammie82uk said: I never said they did I was replying to the automatic review after each goal In NFL they have individual plays, a valid start and end point there is plenty of time to do replays between plays as the players reset in our game how would you decide where the 'play' has started? But the main reason (arguably) NFL games take so long is due to so many clock stoppages . In reference to your point about their games taking 4 hours. If you've blown the whistle for a free kick what's the difference if you take a few seconds longer to review it and ensure the correct decision? You've stopped the game anyway.
jammie82uk Posted 22 December 2016 Posted 22 December 2016 19 minutes ago, Emilio Lestavez said: But the main reason (arguably) NFL games take so long is due to so many clock stoppages . In reference to your point about their games taking 4 hours. If you've blown the whistle for a free kick what's the difference if you take a few seconds longer to review it and ensure the correct decision? You've stopped the game anyway. correct but them clock stoppages allow for the replays to happen we don't need reviews for free kicks the post i replied to only mentioned replays for all scores, goals in our case
urban.spaceman Posted 22 December 2016 Posted 22 December 2016 A comment from that Guardian article: They are completely different offences, but Barkley (correctly) only received a yellow card as only one of his feet was raised and thus in control of his actions and did not involve excessive force. Amazing.
The Doctor Posted 22 December 2016 Posted 22 December 2016 21 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: A comment from that Guardian article: They are completely different offences, but Barkley (correctly) only received a yellow card as only one of his feet was raised and thus in control of his actions and did not involve excessive force. Amazing. Sure they've not confused Barkley and Vardys challenges?
shiv Posted 22 December 2016 Posted 22 December 2016 31 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: A comment from that Guardian article: They are completely different offences, but Barkley (correctly) only received a yellow card as only one of his feet was raised and thus in control of his actions and did not involve excessive force. Amazing. Ffs. That's the most ridiculous comment I've heard so far. I also hate this notion that 2 feet automatically means a red card? That's not the letter of the law.
HighPeakFox Posted 22 December 2016 Posted 22 December 2016 3 hours ago, NotTheMarketLeader said: On the off chance you have time on your hands - what were the Ines that went our way? If its a long long list I'll have trawl through the deep reaches of my mind to counter the argument! I'm not seeking an argument but I can give one example without having to think hard. Simpson's 'handball' at home to Southampton.
m4DD0gg Posted 22 December 2016 Posted 22 December 2016 5 hours ago, Struwwelpeter60 said: 1. In American Football there is an automatic review after every score. Why not doing the same after every goal and penalty decision in football. The necessary technical gear is already in place. 2. Regarding the Red Card: I would ask, why Vardy was trying to make a tackle 5 yards away from our box, at all? At a time, when the score was 0:0. In a situation, that didn't pose a real threat to our team. To lung for that ball, in such a way, was a foolish decision by Vardy. By now, he should know, that not too many referees are members of his fan-club. American football is about as much fun as having your balls cut with a razer blade and then being enforced to take a salt laced TCP bath. I do not think i have ever watched a sport which has SO many breaks whether enforced by daft rules or via advertisement.
Manwell Pablo Posted 22 December 2016 Posted 22 December 2016 1 hour ago, HighPeakFox said: I'm not seeking an argument but I can give one example without having to think hard. Simpson's 'handball' at home to Southampton. Im pretty sure a goal or two of mahrezs was offside as well, and I. Still convinced vardy ran into monreal at arsenal but as we lost anyway it's not really worth the discussion. Obviously the Carrol Jeffrey penalty was a joke but fair to say we'd suffered from moss's ineptitude ourselves that game. We had had plenty of controversial decisions last season but one thing I will say I think on the whole they were given for us correctly even though they were contentious. The only thing way we are lucky is in regards to the fact that match officials were surprisingly accurate when that is not always the case.
urban.spaceman Posted 23 December 2016 Posted 23 December 2016 3 hours ago, The Doctor said: Sure they've not confused Barkley and Vardys challenges? That's what I was thinking. 3 hours ago, shiv said: Ffs. That's the most ridiculous comment I've heard so far. I also hate this notion that 2 feet automatically means a red card? That's not the letter of the law. Here's his whole post: Quote Look, I know you're completely deluded and biased, but even by your standards ignoring that Vardy's challenge absolutely fits the description of a red card for serious foul play is taking the piss. But let's go through it anyway. Any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force and endangering the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play. Vardy lunges at his opponent. Check. You can clearly see where both his feet are off the floor. You can also see the studs of both boots. When a player leaves the ground in such fashion they are deemed out of control of their body and actions, and as such, endangering the safety of their opponent. The rule makes no point about whether or not contact is made with the ball. This is because the rule is not to determine whether or not a foul has been committed, but to prevent tackles like this being made at all because if they do catch the player it can cause serious injury. Rojo should have been sent off for two similar tackles, but your concept of the laws seem to be 'if one player isn't punished, Leicester should be allowed to get away with it as well'. Which I'm sure you deep down understand is ludicrous. As for Barkley's tackle, I'm not sure why you're bringing it into the discussion other than to further perpetuate your insane theory that Leicester are somehow being conspired against. They are completely different offences, but Barkley (correctly) only received a yellow card as only one of his feet was raised and thus in control of his actions and did not involve excessive force. Again, you could avoid being constantly proven wrong if you just read and understood the rules rather than trying to argue against something so blindingly obvious. https://discussion.theguardian.com/comment-permalink/89950442 Either it says a wind up or he is genuinely mental.
foxinmyhouse Posted 23 December 2016 Posted 23 December 2016 If people really think that what vardy did was a red, even people saying it on here then tackling should just be banned altogether. He was that out of control that he won the ball, had enough time to face his studs down, only use one leg and not really touch the other player. Keith Hackett, ex ref, ex manager of the PGMOL and who helped make a training dvd for referees sanctioned by the fa etc said it should never even have been a yellow card let alone a red, and that he would have dropped pawson from the game. There are so many bad tackles/assaults that happen on the pitch that go unpunished that are 10 times worse. There are videos on youtube of gerrard with his crazy arm face smashes that received nothing even after being reviewed. The fa go on about fifa needing to change but they are just as corrupt. Its a joke that in 2012 when rooney kicked another player and got a straight red and a 3 game ban, The Fa appealed and claimed a kick for no reason should only be a one match ban. They are making the rules up as they go along to suit there favorites.
justfoxes Posted 23 December 2016 Posted 23 December 2016 Totally agree on the use of video evidence as this shows the incompetence of officials Johnson could Vardy before he went to ground"allegedly" taking out Diouff, then there was simpsons handball him sliding in and the ball hitting his forearm !! These could've been reviewed by another official connected to the referee by the same radio connection and the video official could either overrule the ref or agree with his decision this wouldn't take as long as people would think and put to bed any wrong decision,managers or captains could have 3 appeals per half to ask for video evidence ! The referees governing body just don't want to commit themselves by agreeing that Pawson is incompetent or that the inconsistency of officials officiating in the premier league as per Rojo and Barkley incidents for example which were far worse and could have ended a players career that were not punished in the correct manner! football is a huge money business and when referees constantly call the wrong decisions it could cost clubs huge amounts of money and at worst the club going into administration at worst case scenario,it's about time football fully embraced technology into helping football run more smoothly and efficient noting off ball incidents tobplayers diving and cheating poor decisions from referees etc it's brilliant that we have goal line technology where as if we hadn't against Stoke I'm sure Pawson would have gone on the side of stokes no goal appeal ! its not only the financial effect but also affecting the loyal folk who go to games week in week out cheating those fans from having travelled a fair distance to follow their club to be cheated out of a decision that could easily have been rectified by a video official ! FFS it's the 21st century embrace the technology available to you to improve the quality of football officiating within the premier league and football league in this country !!
shiv Posted 26 December 2016 Posted 26 December 2016 Just seen everyone will have Vardy masks on their seats today in protest of the red card Vichai is class
Larry_LCFC Posted 26 December 2016 Posted 26 December 2016 Jamie Vardy mask on every seat in protest. This won't look embarrassing much.
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 26 December 2016 Posted 26 December 2016 One of the most embrassing, childish things I've ever seen a football club do.
EnderbyFox Posted 26 December 2016 Posted 26 December 2016 This is worse than the Man City players wearing Gundogan shirts
Matt Posted 26 December 2016 Author Posted 26 December 2016 Quite embarassing, however I can see the funny side. I just hope some anti-FA chants get going. ****ing wankers. Not just about this situation, I've thought the FA are twats and had little respect for them for a long time now, I think people are slowly starting to see the light. I never really was keen on Greg Dyke but his comments the other week about the FA being outdated and held back by elderly white men who know nothing about the game is 100% correct and nothing will change until there is a massive overhaul within the FA. (TBH I though Greg Dyke was one of them but maybe not if he's had to make these comments).
goose2010 Posted 26 December 2016 Posted 26 December 2016 Calm down for god sake it's only a bit of fun! Sick of fans thinking stuff is embarassing! To who? Who do you want to impress?!
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 26 December 2016 Posted 26 December 2016 Just now, goose2010 said: Calm down for god sake it's only a bit of fun! Sick of fans thinking stuff is embarassing! To who? Who do you want to impress?! Do you actually think grown men wearing a Vardy mask is sane behaviour? Seriously? It's not about looking 'cool' or 'hard', but I'd prefer it if we didn't look like massive raging cvnts.
shiv Posted 26 December 2016 Posted 26 December 2016 2 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: Do you actually think grown men wearing a Vardy mask is sane behaviour? Seriously? It's not about looking 'cool' or 'hard', but I'd prefer it if we didn't look like massive raging cvnts. It's a bit of fun. Lighten up ffs. Nobody is forcing you to wear yours.
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