Vardy appeal rejected.

[norwichfox]

2 minutes ago, brucey said:

 

" This kind of judgement distort the charming of English Premier. I spend a lot of time and effort to make my beloved Lcfc success, but this incident made me feel dispirit from football."

 

I hope there is no hidden meaning to this, and he is thinking of packing it in......could it be possible that the proposed trip to China is a shop window? Perish the thought

[Harry - LCFC]

11 hours ago, jim5000 said:

If it was a Stoke player sliding in like this on Drinkwater, the thread wouldn't exist.

 

He throws himself forward, both feet, from several feet away from the ball while an opposition player is running in. It's a potential leg breaker.

You act like he intentionally made the tackle as he did. But of course he didn't. We can clearly see from replays that he was pushed. If he hadn't been pushed it would've been a standard block tackle. The danger came about as the result of the push from the Stoke player, hence why people think a red card should not have been given.

[The_77]

" This kind of judgement distort the charming of English Premier. I spend a lot of time and effort to make my beloved Lcfc success, but this incident made me feel dispirit from football."

 

I hope there is no hidden meaning to this, and he is thinking of packing it in......could it be possible that the proposed trip to China is a shop window? Perish the thought

Easy now...

[ajthefox]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/dec/21/leicester-city-jamie-vardy-fa-appeals-procedure

 

Interesting article form the guardian about the sending off and the appeals process.

[ealingfox]

Be Unity Together and Cheer Up should become Leicester's answer to Keep Calm and Carry On

[Dan]

Hahahaha get in Vichai!!!

[ealingfox]

46 minutes ago, ajthefox said:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/dec/21/leicester-city-jamie-vardy-fa-appeals-procedure

 

Interesting article form the guardian about the sending off and the appeals process.

 

some of the bitterness about last season is hilarious in the comments.

[UPinCarolina]

VS making those comments is precisely why I am so happy that he has an Instagram.

[Matt]

4 hours ago, Manwell Pablo said:

 

Ha is that right.

 

I thought he'd given the first foul against Pieters.......

 

He should be relegated to League One for a month just for that, I aint being funny but how the blue fck do you mix those two up. 

Another rule I don't get but seeing as you've suggested it maybe you could explain.

 

So the referee is shit at his job, he has previous of being shit at his job, so what League One teams done wrong to have to put up with a substandard official? Why should League One teams get punished? What kind of punishment is that to Pawson? And ultimately what kind of guidence and help does it give to become better at his job?

 

Wound me up when we were in League One or the Championship when referee's got demoted because they'd been poor so even though we've come along way since then i'm not gonna change my opinion, it just doesn't make sense.

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

1 hour ago, The_77 said:

Easy now...

 

1 hour ago, norwichfox said:

" This kind of judgement distort the charming of English Premier. I spend a lot of time and effort to make my beloved Lcfc success, but this incident made me feel dispirit from football."

 

I hope there is no hidden meaning to this, and he is thinking of packing it in......could it be possible that the proposed trip to China is a shop window? Perish the thought

 

I thought this as well, wonder if it is a selling mission?

 

[Manwell Pablo]

6 minutes ago, Matt said:

Another rule I don't get but seeing as you've suggested it maybe you could explain.

 

So the referee is shit at his job, he has previous of being shit at his job, so what League One teams done wrong to have to put up with a substandard official? Why should League One teams get punished? What kind of punishment is that to Pawson? And ultimately what kind of guidence and help does it give to become better at his job?

 

Wound me up when we were in League One or the Championship when referee's got demoted because they'd been poor so even though we've come along way since then i'm not gonna change my opinion, it just doesn't make sense.

 

Well the general rule is the better the ref you are the higher up you ref, so poor performance should result in a demotion down the leagues much in the same way a poor team would get relegated, standard wise you'd imagine in theory at least Pawson is a very good ref for that standard so it would be no punishment to them (as I say in theory) Pawson obviously gets less recognition and less money for reffing a League One game and of course obviously he if continues to be shit you'd like to think he moves further down again but I can't remember that happening really.

 

He wont though, the uphold of Vardy's red basically means the mistaken identity is the only decision he got wrong so in the FA's mind at least he's probably got through a difficult match to ref making one mistake. 

[WigstonWanderer]

1 hour ago, ajthefox said:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/dec/21/leicester-city-jamie-vardy-fa-appeals-procedure

 

Interesting article form the guardian about the sending off and the appeals process.

Exactly the point I made earlier. The appeal should not centre on whether the ref made a reasonable decision or not, it should only concern itself with whether the punishment is appropriate for what actually happened in the light of all video and other evidence which was not available to the ref at the time.

 

As the article says, it should be quite possible to declare the ref to have made a reasonable decision, but that in actual fact there was no infringement, or not one that deserved a ban.

 

Self evidently ludicrous guidelines for the appeals process.

[filbertway]

19 minutes ago, Matt said:

Another rule I don't get but seeing as you've suggested it maybe you could explain.

 

So the referee is shit at his job, he has previous of being shit at his job, so what League One teams done wrong to have to put up with a substandard official? Why should League One teams get punished? What kind of punishment is that to Pawson? And ultimately what kind of guidence and help does it give to become better at his job?

 

Wound me up when we were in League One or the Championship when referee's got demoted because they'd been poor so even though we've come along way since then i'm not gonna change my opinion, it just doesn't make sense.

The speed of the game is slower and the cheating tactics are minimal in comparison to the premier league. That's like saying a footballer that looks out of his depth in the Premier League shouldn't be playing at any professional level.

 

Edited as i said in comparison to league one! haha

[Kendal Fox]

On 20/12/2016 at 21:50, TAFKA Castroneves said:

It's crazy but i'm really starting to think the FA have got it properly in for us now. Firstly the rule changes in post last season to "clamp down" on grappling and holding - which really affected our more physical defending style, and we all knew Vardy was never having this card overturned - but even worse is the overall performance of the ref for that game, nothing.

 

The irony is we last season drew more attention to the Premier League (came along at the right time) and no doubt helped in expanding the game - especially in the States - but the bosses really didn't want us to win, we embarressed them and all their money with pure passion and desire.

 

I'm wondering if some people up in the FA are on the payroll from the big clubs - we all know how corrupt FIFA has become, surely it's time to consider with a multi-billion pound football league in our home country that someone or someones are personally profiteriting in some way here. Pity we'll never see an investigation, we should.

 

 

Your comments strike a chord with me and, though it sounds outrageous and paranoid, I really do believe we have been singled out, going way back to the match v Arsenal in February, for the reasons you are alluding to. The rule change you talk about with the clamp down on holding and jostling is interesting in that, Robert Huth was manhandled several times in different matches, in full view of the ref but nothing was given?? (Crystal Palace late last season and Swansea this season come to mind). Yet we know how he and Morgan have been penalised for, not neccessarily the cleanest, but certainly more innocuous defending?!

Just looking at the likes of Ibrahimovic, Rojo and Barkley and comparing their actions to Simpson's (Arsenal in Feb), Vardy's (v West Ham), Drinkwater's (at UTD), Huth's (at UTD) and Vardy's challenge at Bet365 just last Saturday, there's no way anybody is telling me there isn't a disgraceful bias towards those players and against our players!! It's just plain dishonesty or naivety to say otherwise.

As another example of the inconsistency towards Vardy's appeal - Back in March, Sadio Mane had his red card rescinded within 30 hours of it being given??!! His argument was that he kept his eyes on the ball and he benefitted from retrospective, video evidence to show that??! Yet Vardy, had his eyes on the ball too and actually won it!!?? Again, was it because Southampton were 7th or 8th at the time and mathematically, had no way of challenging for the title?? Of course we are way off the pace, but it makes me wonder whether it's this vengeance thing towards us for upsetting the apple cart last season, so, if they can, they'd love it if they could help us get relegated...

There is still a heck of a lot that we had to deal with in winning the title last season that I won't forget. As you said, the matches being moved to Sundays during the last quarter of the season??! The match at Newcastle, originally scheduled for a Saturday afternoon was moved all the way back to the Monday evening!? That allowed Benitez to have 2 full training sessions with Newcastle who very nearly threw a spanner in the works for us that night.. Then Vardy's hat-trick v Man City and the way we were starting to come on v Stoke (before the red card) had me feeling confident that we'd have a very good run over the festive matches. That's now most probably been completely altered by the powers that be, and you can best believe they are mindful of the fact that Barkley's "apology" story is being heavily pushed in the media and that he is playing us next...

 

As a post-script, it's remarkable that we won the title by 10 points, though I worked out we probably would have won it by 16 had we not had Vardy sent off v West Ham or Drinkwater sent off v UTD. Think we'd then have beaten Chelsea... But I digress...

[FLAN]

Players should all wear his name on their shirts against Everton 

[Manwell Pablo]

57 minutes ago, WigstonWanderer said:

Exactly the point I made earlier. The appeal should not centre on whether the ref made a reasonable decision or not, it should only concern itself with whether the punishment is appropriate for what actually happened in the light of all video and other evidence which was not available to the ref at the time.

 

As the article says, it should be quite possible to declare the ref to have made a reasonable decision, but that in actual fact there was no infringement, or not one that deserved a ban.

 

Self evidently ludicrous guidelines for the appeals process.

 

To be honest even that would be a start, as what they actually do is see if there is any basis at all for a red card even if they think it's the wrong decision. 

[NotTheMarketLeader]

The fact is Vardy has been sent off twice and banned for 6 games where it would be reasonable to say he's virtually done nothing wrong.

 

A booking here or there maybe...,

[Carl the Llama]

They're called the FA because that's about how much use they are.

[urban.spaceman]

4 hours ago, ajthefox said:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/dec/21/leicester-city-jamie-vardy-fa-appeals-procedure

 

Interesting article form the guardian about the sending off and the appeals process.

There really are some unbelievable bellends in those comments. You'd think Vardy had razors on his boots, had cut Diouf's leg off and then nuked his nan's house from the dressing room.

 

some people genuinely seem to think we were gifted the title. Lunatics. 

[jammie82uk]

5 hours ago, norwichfox said:

" This kind of judgement distort the charming of English Premier. I spend a lot of time and effort to make my beloved Lcfc success, but this incident made me feel dispirit from football."

 

I hope there is no hidden meaning to this, and he is thinking of packing it in......could it be possible that the proposed trip to China is a shop window? Perish the thought

There is nothing in that at all, why do people always wanna make a mountain out of molehills 

[st albans fox]

1 hour ago, NotTheMarketLeader said:

The fact is Vardy has been sent off twice and banned for 6 games where it would be reasonable to say he's virtually done nothing wrong.

 

A booking here or there maybe...,

6?

[Terraloon]

21 hours ago, Danny Clender said:

A video referee.

Both suggestions could work, though I'd prefer one person to a panel to reduce time. 

I think an appeal system would be a better method to introduce.

Offsides, Penalties inside/outside the box, deflections for corners are not subjective.

Handballs inside the box, particular tackles, particular penalties, simulation are all subjective, but need assistance, all can decide games or not.

Jamie Vardy's tackle was "subjective" but was ruled to be a foul 3 days after the moment occurred, it could have been decided there and then, everybody has to accept the decision and that's that. No need for FA Appeals.

I'm sure not too far away, it may already exist, but a complete image mapping system of the entire game will allow the video ref to look at the decision from a full 360 perspective, not just the replays from the cameras on offer like we currently use.

I imagine it will be like Hawkeye in Cricket but with the complete pitch and action to playback. 

I know it questions the entire integrity of the game, but Ref's need help. 

And like I say, it works in other sports so why is football being left behind. 

Offsides are often subjective for instance was a player in an offside position interfering with play, likewise so are handballs (for it's the only foul  in football that nowadays has to be intentional ) be they in the area or outside. Football isn't like cricket or tennis where after a ball has been bowled or a point played  which is followed by a natural break

. Just imagine a linesman flags for offside and the review shows it wasn't what then? Or is it only going to be when ones not flagged . So how about an offside isn't flagged but the team that was offside immediately loses the ball and the opposition player shoots from inside his own half and scores what then dis allow the goal? Or how about ones given incorrectly  when it wasn't the team plays on and score but the opposition seeing the flag raised stop playing 

Of course referees get decisions wrong , they always  have but nowadays  the TV companies show the incident from ten or so angles in slow mo then super slow mo to prove a point. Some say it will only take a minute or so but say that happens 10 or so times in a game

Football is a fast incident packed game and to introduce breaks in play to prove or disprove a descion will be the death knell of football as a spectator sport.

All clubs and in particular supporters  feel they are badly threaten in this instance I really can't say with certainty that the nudge on Vardy forced him to launch two footed so from that point on he was out of control so can see why the red card wasn't overturned for it to have been the panel would have had to say that the referee made an obvious mistake.

 

[The_77]

 

I thought this as well, wonder if it is a selling mission?

 

I don't mean to be a dick but I really can't believe that's what anyone could gather from that IG post.

[Terraloon]

3 hours ago, WigstonWanderer said:

Exactly the point I made earlier. The appeal should not centre on whether the ref made a reasonable decision or not, it should only concern itself with whether the punishment is appropriate for what actually happened in the light of all video and other evidence which was not available to the ref at the time.

 

As the article says, it should be quite possible to declare the ref to have made a reasonable decision, but that in actual fact there was no infringement, or not one that deserved a ban.

 

Self evidently ludicrous guidelines for the appeals process.

This is where the article fails to acknowledge or perhaps understand the FA process.

 

There is a procedure in the FA discipline code which enables the player to appeal the length of the ban if that ban is three or more games on the basis that the ban clearly is excessive. There are quite recent examples of this type of approach being successful. Do you remember the instance where Chelsea appealed the Matic sending off and the standard three game ban was reduced on appeal to two.

LCFC had an opportunity to take that approach but didn't and based on what I saw and I try to take both a neutral and pragmatic view I couldn't be sure that the referee made an obvious mistake.

[jammie82uk]

50 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

6?

I gather they are including last season as well