Fox92 Posted 14 January 2017 Share Posted 14 January 2017 3 minutes ago, sphericalfox said: Neither were the signings we made to make us Champions of England. I wish people would stop hanging their coat on the title, and having unrealistic expectations of who we should or shouldn't be signing. Let's trust the management to find the right players to fit the long-term plan and vision that they are aiming for. Yeah but I'd like to think we could do better than a player that wasn't good enough for Southampton and, in some cases, Hull. We need this type of player but he's not going to improve us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sphericalfox Posted 14 January 2017 Share Posted 14 January 2017 4 minutes ago, Fox92 said: Yeah but I'd like to think we could do better than a player that wasn't good enough for Southampton and, in some cases, Hull. We need this type of player but he's not going to improve us. Again, the same could be said for the players we brought in last year. It's the wrong mentality. Surely he'll be scouted for what he brings to the team strength-wise, and if he suits and there are areas that the management think they can improve then I'll leave it up to them. Are you expecting some FM rated megastar CAM to join us? If the above works for them, the price is right, and his wage demands suit too, and that balance is found so we can strengthen elsewhere then I'm going to trust that they'll make the right call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 14 January 2017 Share Posted 14 January 2017 5 minutes ago, sphericalfox said: Again, the same could be said for the players we brought in last year. It's the wrong mentality. Surely he'll be scouted for what he brings to the team strength-wise, and if he suits and there are areas that the management think they can improve then I'll leave it up to them. Are you expecting some FM rated megastar CAM to join us? If the above works for them, the price is right, and his wage demands suit too, and that balance is found so we can strengthen elsewhere then I'm going to trust that they'll make the right call. When I've seen a player in the PL then I feel ok to judge and have my own opinion. Yes I am not levels of a scout, nobody on here is, but they can be wrong - as proved with Benaloyane. Last season I didn't know who Kante was so I couldn't comment. I always backed Gray because he looked good at Birmingham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sphericalfox Posted 14 January 2017 Share Posted 14 January 2017 1 minute ago, Fox92 said: When I've seen a player in the PL then I feel ok to judge and have my own opinion. Yes I am not levels of a scout, nobody on here is, but they can be wrong - as proved with Benaloyane. Last season I didn't know who Kante was so I couldn't comment. I always backed Gray because he looked good at Birmingham. Why use Benny as an example? There's more to his situation (publicly known) than 'he's not playing, he's not good enough. transfer error'. For me price is important. We have two other areas to address that will cost a lot of money. CAMs don't usually come cheap. Maybe this fits our budget so we can pump more money at the other two - CB/RB. And everyone and thier mother is hunting CBs, they are going to be at a premium as we are trying to find Huth/Morgan upgrades at a younger age for the long term replacement of one or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian S Posted 14 January 2017 Share Posted 14 January 2017 38 minutes ago, EastAnglianFox said: Not the sort of signing you would expect from the champions of England! What an absolute cluster fvck the summer was. Of course we should have just signed people for the sake of it when we could not get our first choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgfualol Posted 14 January 2017 Share Posted 14 January 2017 £15m is a bit steep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sphericalfox Posted 14 January 2017 Share Posted 14 January 2017 4 minutes ago, lgfualol said: £15m is a bit steep £12m for Jeff. Nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgfualol Posted 14 January 2017 Share Posted 14 January 2017 5 minutes ago, sphericalfox said: £12m for Jeff. Nuff said. Yea I'd still take him but didn't boro sign him for free in the Summer? We should have been on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheppyFox Posted 14 January 2017 Share Posted 14 January 2017 More and more media outlets are speaking of this now, I wonder if it's repeating the original source or whether it's actually happening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sphericalfox Posted 14 January 2017 Share Posted 14 January 2017 3 minutes ago, lgfualol said: Yea I'd still take him but didn't boro sign him for free in the Summer? We should have been on that. Who knows why not. Maybe we didn't intend on playing a formation accommodating a CAM at that stage in the summer. Impossible to guess the reasons why not then and maybe now. Plans change, it happens. We need players who can feed our goal scorers. We aren't scoring at the minute with any great numbers. If we were highly dependent on Mahrez to deliver the assists, and he's being marked by 2/3 players, then maybe we need someone who can bring the goods? Dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 14 January 2017 Share Posted 14 January 2017 Been screaming for a player that plays this position so I'm happy. We're going to go from King/Amartey to a selecting 3 of Mendy, N'Didi, Drinky and Ramirez I wonder if this means we could see Amartey dropping back into central defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costock_Fox Posted 14 January 2017 Share Posted 14 January 2017 He isn't playing today for Boro, is he suspended/injured or does this add more fuel to the fire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costock_Fox Posted 14 January 2017 Share Posted 14 January 2017 Just now, Worthington said: North Eastern press are suggesting £15m is a good ole 'release clause' ! That's obviously from their point of view though. If you need any reminder of what a normal fee is see the events of yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon789us Posted 14 January 2017 Share Posted 14 January 2017 Would mind him here yeah he's not a big name but he's the type of player we need would prefer Bojan think he's an excellent player just lost his mojo at stoke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted 14 January 2017 Share Posted 14 January 2017 Release clause makes sense. Shows why they've moved in for Bojan before selling Ramirez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxyPalace.com Posted 14 January 2017 Share Posted 14 January 2017 11 minutes ago, Costock_Fox said: He isn't playing today for Boro, is he suspended/injured or does this add more fuel to the fire? After reading the various Boro forums apparently Ramirez has a suffered a sudden injury, MMMMMmmmmmmm. The Bojan link for them seems to be hanging around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roblcfc84 Posted 14 January 2017 Share Posted 14 January 2017 Good player - clearly talented. But I'd prefer we look at a CB and RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxes21 Posted 14 January 2017 Share Posted 14 January 2017 boro fans seem to think its his agent trying to get a better contract with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sphericalfox Posted 14 January 2017 Share Posted 14 January 2017 1 minute ago, roblcfc84 said: Good player - clearly talented. But I'd prefer we look at a CB and RB Err, you do know that two or more things can happen at the same time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costock_Fox Posted 14 January 2017 Share Posted 14 January 2017 6 minutes ago, FoxyPalace.com said: After reading the various Boro forums apparently Ramirez has a suffered a sudden injury, MMMMMmmmmmmm. The Bojan link for them seems to be hanging around. If you put it all together it adds up. No smoke without fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiritwalker Posted 14 January 2017 Share Posted 14 January 2017 11 minutes ago, FoxyPalace.com said: After reading the various Boro forums apparently Ramirez has a suffered a sudden injury, MMMMMmmmmmmm. The Bojan link for them seems to be hanging around. What are they saying about the potential sale of Ramirez? Are they desperate to keep him or glad to get rid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roblcfc84 Posted 14 January 2017 Share Posted 14 January 2017 13 minutes ago, sphericalfox said: Err, you do know that two or more things can happen at the same time? Really...I didn't realise. The point is it shows that Claudio feels he needs to strengthen in an area where we already have many options. The summer demonstrated that the back 4 was less of a priority in the summer and I'm hoping this signing doesn't demonstrate January will be the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxes21 Posted 14 January 2017 Share Posted 14 January 2017 So he's a CAM we can bring off the bench to play 4-2-3-1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realist Guy In The Room Posted 14 January 2017 Share Posted 14 January 2017 Players of this type tend to be quite inconsistent so it doesn't particularly bother me about varying match report scores etc. I think he's a good player and certainly provides a different option to what we have which is always a good thing. £15m seems about right so if its Schlupp out and Ramirez in I think that's decent. I cant believe we'll go another window without strengthening the defence but I imagine that'll happen very late into the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmarteyAndChill Posted 14 January 2017 Share Posted 14 January 2017 11 hours ago, Kswainy1993 said: As a number 10/CAM??? Bojan,snodgrass,sigurdsson,moutinho,ziyech,calhanoglu, Sigursson would not cost £15m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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