stox259 Posted 6 February 2017 Posted 6 February 2017 During the United game Claudio stood on his own for the whole game. Never once did he consult any of his backroom staff. In addition not once did any of his backroom staff step up to offer advice. When your 0-3 down at home surely you need to consult someone. Clearly there are issues here. Get them all locked in a room today and get it sorted. We cannot keep doing the same thing and expect different results. It goes without saying that its a disgrace that we are in this situation.
tylesta Posted 6 February 2017 Posted 6 February 2017 or could it be claudio has lost faith in his backroom staff?
Kinowe Soorie Posted 6 February 2017 Posted 6 February 2017 Shakespeare did try to speak to him or the players but it looked like CR shooed him away.
chapero82 Posted 6 February 2017 Posted 6 February 2017 Did anybody else see not long before UTD scored Fuchs arguing with Ranieri's instructions then Fuchs went to Huth to tell him and huth shook his head with hand gestures about width!
Raj Posted 6 February 2017 Posted 6 February 2017 Claudio looked a forlorn figure during that game. Needs the intervention of the owners to openly back him.
stripeyfox Posted 6 February 2017 Posted 6 February 2017 They need a massive clear the air talk. Players, staff, manager etc. The owners need to either publicly back Ranieri, or sack him If they choose to back him until the end of the season, then everyone else either jumps onboard and starts pulling in the same direction, or they go and work with the reserves until the summer.
roblcfc84 Posted 6 February 2017 Posted 6 February 2017 I must admit I don't normally read too much into such things but absolutely noticed yesterday that there was Claudio and then everyone else, he looked absolutely isolated.
lgfualol Posted 6 February 2017 Posted 6 February 2017 39 minutes ago, chapero82 said: Did anybody else see not long before UTD scored Fuchs arguing with Ranieri's instructions then Fuchs went to Huth to tell him and huth shook his head with hand gestures about width! Maybe Ranieri's instructions were to actually defend. Hence why Huth shook his head and totally ****ed us moments after.
Guest Mickyblueeyes Posted 6 February 2017 Posted 6 February 2017 It's not a new thing for Claudio to lose the support of absolutely everyone. I wish we had contribution from Inter/Juve and Roma fans. This isolation of players, victimisation and phasing out of honest coaching staff is normal practice. Support him if you will but you could question the ability and commitment of our players. Can anyone question the commitment and dedication to Roma of player like Totti? Shakespeare's opinion should be golden. He's trained these players and got the best out of them for years. We don't need a sit down, we need to cut out the common problem - Claudio.
BenTheFox Posted 6 February 2017 Posted 6 February 2017 We don't know everything that goes on, but it feels like the club are doing absolutely nothing about the position we're in.
norwichfox Posted 6 February 2017 Posted 6 February 2017 Give Craig Shakespeare a go until the end of season, doesn't look like it would be a good idea to even "promote" Ranieri in an Ambassadors role, he appears to have turned to poison whether it's his fault or not, I don't care. 100% we go down if he's not out by next week.
BenTheFox Posted 6 February 2017 Posted 6 February 2017 2 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said: It's not a new thing for Claudio to lose the support of absolutely everyone. I wish we had contribution from Inter/Juve and Roma fans. This isolation of players, victimisation and phasing out of honest coaching staff is normal practice. Support him if you will but you could question the ability and commitment of our players. Can anyone question the commitment and dedication to Roma of player like Totti? Shakespeare's opinion should be golden. He's trained these players and got the best out of them for years. We don't need a sit down, we need to cut out the common problem - Claudio. It's the sad reality. It's a common theme that Ranieri starts well in a new job for it to all go to pot a year later. I don't want to sack the man, but I don't think he should be our manager anymore. Nothing would make me happier than if he walked away this morning. I can't see him walking so if we were to change manager he'd have to be sacked.
5waller5 Posted 6 February 2017 Posted 6 February 2017 If Claudio does go (and i'd be gutted if he does), then I doubt anyone wants him sacked ..... But he won't resign and lose £Ms ..... So it will be by mutual consent and i would imagine a new manager would be lined up prior as part of the arrangement.
Guest Mickyblueeyes Posted 6 February 2017 Posted 6 February 2017 2 minutes ago, BenTheFox said: It's the sad reality. It's a common theme that Ranieri starts well in a new job for it to all go to pot a year later. I don't want to sack the man, but I don't think he should be our manager anymore. Nothing would make me happier than if he walked away this morning. I can't see him walking so if we were to change manager he'd have to be sacked. He won't walk away. As I said in another thread, he never does. No matter how bad it gets, how many people he falls out with, he won't until he gets his pay day.
alanf0x Posted 6 February 2017 Posted 6 February 2017 Also noticed that shakey was on the pitch at the end. Usually him at stowell will hang around on the side of the pitch but yesterday he was on to commiserate all of the players
stox259 Posted 6 February 2017 Author Posted 6 February 2017 15 minutes ago, norwichfox said: Give Craig Shakespeare a go until the end of season, doesn't look like it would be a good idea to even "promote" Ranieri in an Ambassadors role, he appears to have turned to poison whether it's his fault or not, I don't care. 100% we go down if he's not out by next week. Absolutely this
sharonlcfc21 Posted 6 February 2017 Posted 6 February 2017 7 minutes ago, stox259 said: Absolutely this Can't disagree
waylander Posted 6 February 2017 Posted 6 February 2017 Everyone else is deserting him why not the staff ?
Jonesy91 Posted 6 February 2017 Posted 6 February 2017 They also usually shake hands at the end of the match but didn't yesterday
foxy boxing Posted 6 February 2017 Posted 6 February 2017 as the situation continues more and more cracks could appear between Claudio and his backroom staff, just get the feeling Claudio has a different way of doing things to the other coaches and maybe words have been said and there is clearly a difference of opinion between Claudio and his staff
Monsell1976 Posted 6 February 2017 Posted 6 February 2017 I think the problem with all these supposed leaks to the press, and things not happening on the pitch, are we looking for things that are not there, there maybe a fall out, but there may not.
Stadt Posted 6 February 2017 Posted 6 February 2017 2 hours ago, Mickyblueeyes said: He won't walk away. As I said in another thread, he never does. No matter how bad it gets, how many people he falls out with, he won't until he gets his pay day. He resigned at Roma.
Guest Bob Hazels shorts Posted 6 February 2017 Posted 6 February 2017 We had a Performance psychologist called Ken Way who I understand left in September. (Not in the LCFC set up on line) I remember and have just Googled, got a lot of credit pre and during our success. Articles suggest how good he is. He said in an interview that he is not that busy when the team are playing well (we were then) as his job is working, if players had a dip in form he would build them up. I don't know why he left, can only guess. I know he shouldn't be necessary etc but its fair to say he's missed.
Bablemikey Posted 6 February 2017 Posted 6 February 2017 I saw both Shakey & Stowell get involved to calm things down when Fuchs was arguing furiously with Ranieri in the first half.
stevelcfc Posted 6 February 2017 Posted 6 February 2017 10 minutes ago, Bob Hazels shorts said: We had a Performance psychologist called Ken Way who I understand left in September. (Not in the LCFC set up on line) I remember and have just Googled, got a lot of credit pre and during our success. Articles suggest how good he is. He said in an interview that he is not that busy when the team are playing well (we were then) as his job is working, if players had a dip in form he would build them up. I don't know why he left, can only guess. I know he shouldn't be necessary etc but its fair to say he's missed. Yes, he has left in the summer, along with a number of other sports science guys. Whether it was their choice or not, I don't know, could have gone to Derby with Nigel, but not to have any psychology stuff going on is another criminal mistake by the powers at the kp.
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