Collymore Posted 23 February 2017 Posted 23 February 2017 A few people have mentioned they can't understand the timing of the sacking. To me it makes perfect sense because if we wait until after Seville at home and we are knocked out surely this is going to put a few of the more reputable candidates off. There's also a good chance we might be rock bottom by then with Liverpool home coming up and then the distraction of the Seville game to follow... not to mention being out of the FA cup... It's a shame CR hasn't been given the chance to play Seville at home but I feel this was is actually the best timing for the club as a whole because we do still have something to offer a new manager, a reasonable chance of progressing to the quarter finals of the biggest league competition in the world.
rmahrez Posted 23 February 2017 Posted 23 February 2017 The last time a manager was sacked after the first leg of a champions league round of 16 tie was André Villas-Boas in 2012 when Chelsea lost 3-1 in Napoli. Remember what happened next? Maybe a bit too optimistic.
oadby.fox Posted 23 February 2017 Posted 23 February 2017 But realistically who are they going to be able to get in to navigate a tricky home tie and mount a relegation fight at the same time? Quality managers don't usually want to sign up for something in which the first couple of games could ruin their reputation. If we don't get positive results in the next four domestic games then it really will start to look like a ticking time bomb. I doubt they will be able to get anyone in quick enough for Liverpool and if we lose that then that is also one game less for the new manager to have a go at. He deserved to see out the Champions League tie in my opinion or at least the Liverpool game, what if he had gotten us through? What if Vardy opened the scoring against Liverpool on Monday and we went onto win? Things would be looking incredibly different and that could have rallied the players - who are - in my opinion the biggest problem.
Old Fox Posted 23 February 2017 Posted 23 February 2017 Saw the owners at the airport last night as we were getting the coach....they must have left quickly and presumably this had been brewing under the surface for days........maybe Shakey will be given the opportunity to sort it...rather him than Wagner, Rowett, Pearson, Pardew, Hodgson
Brainy Posted 23 February 2017 Posted 23 February 2017 It is weird. Swansea was the ideal time, Millwall was embarrasing but wasn't really the big concern at the time. Last night was our most satisfying result in a long time, besides Derby at home I guess. Not the greatest performance but I personally was delighted with 2-1. I am fed up of him and the players (i think it was just Simpson last night) saying this is the turning point.. its been said so often this season it just means sod all anymore. I'm really sad for him that he's gone but its the right thing IMO. I wish he would have walked instead.
ajthefox Posted 23 February 2017 Posted 23 February 2017 Before the vote of confidence was released, they've clearly agreed to back him until the first leg last night. In that time we lost a relegation "6 pointer", got knocked out of the cup by 10-man league 1 millwall and somehow fluked a result against Sevilla despite an awful performance. If the last 3 games had gone well, he'd still have his job imo.
TeamRocket Posted 23 February 2017 Posted 23 February 2017 20 minutes ago, oadby.fox said: But realistically who are they going to be able to get in to navigate a tricky home tie and mount a relegation fight at the same time? Quality managers don't usually want to sign up for something in which the first couple of games could ruin their reputation. If we don't get positive results in the next four domestic games then it really will start to look like a ticking time bomb. I doubt they will be able to get anyone in quick enough for Liverpool and if we lose that then that is also one game less for the new manager to have a go at. He deserved to see out the Champions League tie in my opinion or at least the Liverpool game, what if he had gotten us through? What if Vardy opened the scoring against Liverpool on Monday and we went onto win? Things would be looking incredibly different and that could have rallied the players - who are - in my opinion the biggest problem. There are alot of what if and buts he needed to go and only thing am shocked about is why didn't they do this sooner. I liked him as a manager and really wanted it to work out but it got to a point where i felt i could bet 10k every game we played we lost and i wouldn't have to worry about losing my 10k
Old Fox Posted 23 February 2017 Posted 23 February 2017 3 minutes ago, ajthefox said: Before the vote of confidence was released, they've clearly agreed to back him until the first leg last night. In that time we lost a relegation "6 pointer", got knocked out of the cup by 10-man league 1 millwall and somehow fluked a result against Sevilla despite an awful performance. If the last 3 games had gone well, he'd still have his job imo. You make some good points but it is clear that internally matters were beyond his control.....he I am sure alienated some but still leaves a bloody sour taste.......41 years and the saddest moment as a fan .....
ajthefox Posted 23 February 2017 Posted 23 February 2017 3 minutes ago, Old Fox said: You make some good points but it is clear that internally matters were beyond his control.....he I am sure alienated some but still leaves a bloody sour taste.......41 years and the saddest moment as a fan ..... Oh yeah I agree, but I think if we had a few good results and the players got some confidence back that the issues would have been subdued somewhat and that he would've been given the benefit of the doubt so long as results improved.
oadby.fox Posted 23 February 2017 Posted 23 February 2017 7 minutes ago, TeamRocket said: There are alot of what if and buts he needed to go and only thing am shocked about is why didn't they do this sooner. I liked him as a manager and really wanted it to work out but it got to a point where i felt i could bet 10k every game we played we lost and i wouldn't have to worry about losing my 10k So what? Your 10k would have been even safer two seasons ago but we stuck with Pearson and stayed up. I think Ranieri deserved more of a chance then Pearson, not just for the title win but for the fact that we are also in a much better position going into the run-in then we were two seasons ago. Last season was God's work - it was a miracle and spectacular. Yes we do have some quality players and we could be in and around the top 10 but we have also successfully juggled the Champions League this season and are still on course for progression into the quarter final. Fans happy to see him go are upset because they want to be up challenging for honours again this season, the sad reality is that it was probably never possible. We are still not in the relegation zone but yes we have played terribly at times. Some fans have found it hard to crash back down to Earth and scrap for relegation again.
Bernieboots76 Posted 23 February 2017 Posted 23 February 2017 I just wonder what was the straw that broke the camels back because this is strange timing for me why not after milwall which would have made sense to me. Was it because they did not want any adverse publicity before last nights match. In his press conference on Tuesday C.R said that if we lost on Wednesday nothing would change but if we were to win it could be the start of something well I'm afraid a loss has cost him his job.
RoboFox Posted 23 February 2017 Posted 23 February 2017 "Bizarre," is all I can say about the timing. BUT, Does anyone care to entertain that they're using the 2nd leg of the Champions League as a sort of carrot on a stick, to try and entice a higher calibre of manager in? That's the only reason I can think of for not giving him the 2nd leg. Also, what's changed in 16 days since they put out the "vote of confidence"? Surely the owners knew it was possible that we would lose in the FA Cup, and that a loss in Seville was nearly inevitable? For me, it was very wrong that they put that out, and it looks terrible that they've deleted any reference to it online.
yorkie1999 Posted 23 February 2017 Posted 23 February 2017 4 minutes ago, RoboFox said: "Bizarre," is all I can say about the timing. BUT, Does anyone care to entertain that they're using the 2nd leg of the Champions League as a sort of carrot on a stick, to try and entice a higher calibre of manager in? That's the only reason I can think of for not giving him the 2nd leg. Also, what's changed in 16 days since they put out the "vote of confidence"? Surely the owners knew it was possible that we would lose in the FA Cup, and that a loss in Seville was nearly inevitable? For me, it was very wrong that they put that out, and it looks terrible that they've not deleted any reference to it online. If someone did come in and manages a win against savilla, he'd be a fvckin hero and cr will quickly become yesterday's news
Anish Posted 23 February 2017 Posted 23 February 2017 27 minutes ago, Walkers said: It is weird. Swansea was the ideal time, Millwall was embarrasing but wasn't really the big concern at the time. Last night was our most satisfying result in a long time, besides Derby at home I guess. Not the greatest performance but I personally was delighted with 2-1. I am fed up of him and the players (i think it was just Simpson last night) saying this is the turning point.. its been said so often this season it just means sod all anymore. I'm really sad for him that he's gone but its the right thing IMO. I wish he would have walked instead. Agreed - the players have let him down but the buck always stops with the manager, whether we like it or not. I think he should have done the honourable thing and walked away when things started turning against him, and even though I think it's the right decision by the owners, I'm still sad at his departure and will always admire and respect him for the way he conducted himself and his achievements here. He should have a statue in his honour and should be given the freedom of Leicester. What he's achieved will never be matched in my opinion. But football is now a business and we can't give him a job for life simply because of sentiment and loyalty.
TeamRocket Posted 23 February 2017 Posted 23 February 2017 1 hour ago, oadby.fox said: So what? Your 10k would have been even safer two seasons ago but we stuck with Pearson and stayed up. I think Ranieri deserved more of a chance then Pearson, not just for the title win but for the fact that we are also in a much better position going into the run-in then we were two seasons ago. Last season was God's work - it was a miracle and spectacular. Yes we do have some quality players and we could be in and around the top 10 but we have also successfully juggled the Champions League this season and are still on course for progression into the quarter final. Fans happy to see him go are upset because they want to be up challenging for honours again this season, the sad reality is that it was probably never possible. We are still not in the relegation zone but yes we have played terribly at times. Some fans have found it hard to crash back down to Earth and scrap for relegation again. All i ever asked was the team and CR put effort and showed fire the "foxes never quit" attitude but the player play poor when the management is poor. Yes we not in it but really did you see us winning much game with the poor team he was putting out? Funny how he said he was gonna be ruthless and not play some players only for a cup game. a game where maybe he should have put the best 11 out from the start? Or even have a Plan A and Plan B heck even a PLAN C! And having some many game to play dont mean anything we did that in the championship and even in league 1 but for some reason we get in the PL and having a few extra game mean an excuse. But like i said its sad for him to get sacked but he needed to go am just annoyed he didn't put his hand up and said he cant row the boat anymore or just showed any sign of the foxes never quit attitude. 1 things for sure we dont know what if or but would have happened if he stayed or even if NP stayed last seaso. Am happy i got to see my team win the PL but sad to see us hurting. Ps sorry for bad grammar or spelling am dyslexic.
TeamRocket Posted 23 February 2017 Posted 23 February 2017 Ps. The wife is not talking to me cos she thinks its wrong he getting sacked all football dramas
fuchsntf Posted 23 February 2017 Posted 23 February 2017 Proof will be in the pudding as they say.. Now the players have to stand up and be counted, its their last chance, to come out with any type of respect even pride.
TeamRocket Posted 23 February 2017 Posted 23 February 2017 I wonder how many people will be of the bandwagon now? never mind good night
Leicester Southwest Posted 23 February 2017 Posted 23 February 2017 Very strange one. I thought he was going to go after the Swansea game. Sevilla was better but does not make up from the awful rest of the season
Nod.E Posted 23 February 2017 Posted 23 February 2017 The worst thing about this whole saga is the vote of confidence. Dishonesty is right at the top of the list of things I dislike, whether it be in a person or an organisation. The fact it has come from my football club is hard to swallow. More than anything I am upset. Genuinely upset at how this fairytale has unfolded.
worthosoriginals Posted 23 February 2017 Posted 23 February 2017 50 minutes ago, TeamRocket said: Ps. The wife is not talking to me cos she thinks its wrong he getting sacked all football dramas Every cloud, eh?
shen Posted 24 February 2017 Posted 24 February 2017 The owners waited too long to the point where I don't think we can recover. As much as I like Ranieri, he has (uncharacteristically in light of last season) been unable to provide any answers to our worsening performances for nigh on 6 months. The warning signs have long been there and if anything, the timing of this sacking was evidence of the owners delaying the decision for as long as possible because of Ranieri's huge credit with them and the fans.
Merging Cultures Posted 24 February 2017 Posted 24 February 2017 I felt positive after Wednesday. In the second half I saw glimpses of what made us great last season. I thought Ranieri was riding on the coat tails of Pearson, but he is a nice guy under whom we achieve our best league position, so I'm disappointed it didn't work out. But the timing is so weird.
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