Uefa charging our sport scientist

[Koke]

10 minutes ago, UniFox21 said:

not a conspiracy, just our size of club seems to hamper us getting some key decisions 

 

If the situation had occurred in the reverse way, would we have been given the penalty?

 

Maybe we would. Maybe we wouldn't.

 

Did you watch the other games? There were some terrible decisions that went against some big clubs. Why would UEFA screw over Barcelona by denying them a clear penalty against Juve?

[UniFox21]

Missed that game, was it bad refereeing all round?

[Jaspa]

9 minutes ago, Thracian said:

Humour me by explaining the basis on which that penalty could have been justly given from the position the referee was viewing the incident?.

There have been cases of it happening before - https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2014/feb/26/breaking-the-law-penalty-area-decisions'

Marky Mark gave the ref a decision to make just as Riyad did by going over Gabi's leg in the second half. I'm not defending the ref one bit all, I'm saying is that we should know how the game works sometimes and how to play it, its more important to get up and try again than to throw your toys at the ref for being inept, do all that when the dust has settled.

 

16 minutes ago, Kitchandro said:

Sorry pal but you are living in a dream world if you don't think UEFA's premier competitions have at least some element of conspiracy about them. You sound like those people who couldn't accept that FIFA were corrupt until it was splashed all over the news.

 

There is absolutely no doubt that English teams have been conned out of the Champions League before, the Chelsea Barcelona match in 2009 was a joke and that was Hiddink, not Mourinho.

 

Last night was not much different, the referee could not possibly have believed in many of the decisions he gave against us, they could not be defended.

 

What you are essentially saying is it's ok for the referee to give an inexcusable decision because Albrighton committed a foul. Please read that back to yourself and grow up.

 

And this isn't sour grapes either, we were well outclassed and should have lost by more, but what's right is right and the treatment we got last night was certainly not right.

I think the game has more going on under the surface than meets the average viewers eye but I also think the game is there to be played. Dont know why you've said the FIFA corruption bit, unfair to put things I've never said over me to judge it. Mahrez was hacked down and targeted last night, there were multiple breaks stopped by fouls and there wasnt a card given to Athleto all night, fouls were given for them falling over the ball when anyone got close too; it was a shocking refereeing performance. I dont agree with UEFA being against little old Leicester though, whats the logic? That viewing figures will be bigger for Athletico in the next round for advertising profits? I highly doubt it, we've captured the hearts of so many people across the planet, people that never heard of us three years ago would cream their pants to see us go further.

 

The Mourinho reference was in regards to his eagerness to blame the easiest of targets for random and if not his own shortcomings, that was well proven last season; I wasnt on about Chelsea-Barca /09.

 

Also think you should sit down for attacking my persona aswell as my opinion. Never convinces me when someone starts off by saying 'sorry pal but', that they respect my views. Just end that there lad.

[stripeyfox]

1 hour ago, fox_favourite said:

UEFA are doing all they can to end our run in the Champions League. They won't want us to win it, that's for sure. So they put in an inept referee and try to disrupt our team as much as possible. It's not just us, over the years English clubs have been part of some suspect decisions and refereeing. All football governing bodies are corrupt in my eyes. 

 

 

It's pathetic really, I also expect Barca to go through with some dodgy decision as well. 

Or possibly English clubs haven't done well because we are not as good?

 

[Parafox]

There could be a sequel to the Leicester City film here...

 

[sk3since03]

With a charge too? baffling!

 

UEFA really are the scum of football

[Drew Peacock]

UEFA are petty, but hopefully none of  the many conspiracy theories about last night are true, although surely everyone knows it is not beyond being possible. 

Simeone and his players have pissed me off though, particularly with the constant waving of imaginary yellow cards from the start. They know how to put pressure on referees, and cry for the letter of the law to be enforced, like the incident this post is about. UEFA are only too happy to enforce it.

Madrid deserved to win, although we all feel a bit hard done by, but I hope that as fans we just put this frustration into creating a really hostile environment for the home game. No negative protests, as I have seen proposed elsewhere, but just positive support for the team.

If that happens, just like it did against Seville, we have a chance.

 

 

[The Fox Covert]

The charge by EUFA is too ridiculous for words. I realise that there have to be rules about technical areas and not encroaching on the pitch, but if Albrighton was near to the Atletico technical area surely one of the Atletico technical team would have passed the bottle to him if they were asked nicely. Even if none of them spoke English, holding the bottle out and pointing at Albrighton ought to be sufficient. I am sure the medics would have assisted a player from the opposing team if they were needed so why not the rest of the technical team? Or is this being far too sensible?

The chairman of whatever EUFA committee is charged with investigating this should dismiss the charge as frivolous and not worth proceeding with.

[EGBFitness]

3 minutes ago, Drew Peacock said:

UEFA are petty, but hopefully none of  the many conspiracy theories about last night are true, although surely everyone knows it is not beyond being possible. 

Simeone and his players have pissed me off though, particularly with the constant waving of imaginary yellow cards from the start. They know how to put pressure on referees, and cry for the letter of the law to be enforced, like the incident this post is about. UEFA are only too happy to enforce it.

Madrid deserved to win, although we all feel a bit hard done by, but I hope that as fans we just put this frustration into creating a really hostile environment for the home game. No negative protests, as I have seen proposed elsewhere, but just positive support for the team.

If that happens, just like it did against Seville, we have a chance.

 

 

Why? 

 

Apart feom Greizmann who was a different class, I think we matched them! 

 

We put in a quality defensive display, yes Madrid had more of the ball/ shots which would be expected, I don't think they partucuarly out played us with the amount of time they had with the ball and was forced to take long shots. 

 

A draw would of been a fair result imo. 

[Drew Peacock]

23 minutes ago, EGBFitness said:

Why? 

 

Apart feom Greizmann who was a different class, I think we matched them! 

 

We put in a quality defensive display, yes Madrid had more of the ball/ shots which would be expected, I don't think they partucuarly out played us with the amount of time they had with the ball and was forced to take long shots. 

 

A draw would of been a fair result imo. 

Maybe I am being careful not to have my usual blue tinted glasses on I don't know. Just felt they always looked more of a threat, although I agree defensively we were great. Didn't think we looked like scoring whereas they looked dangerous. Maybe you are right, just how I felt watching it. 

[Thracian]

2 hours ago, SpazticChicken said:

There have been cases of it happening before - https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2014/feb/26/breaking-the-law-penalty-area-decisions'

Marky Mark gave the ref a decision to make just as Riyad did by going over Gabi's leg in the second half. I'm not defending the ref one bit all, I'm saying is that we should know how the game works sometimes and how to play it, its more important to get up and try again than to throw your toys at the ref for being inept, do all that when the dust has settled.

 

I think the game has more going on under the surface than meets the average viewers eye but I also think the game is there to be played. Dont know why you've said the FIFA corruption bit, unfair to put things I've never said over me to judge it. Mahrez was hacked down and targeted last night, there were multiple breaks stopped by fouls and there wasnt a card given to Athleto all night, fouls were given for them falling over the ball when anyone got close too; it was a shocking refereeing performance. I dont agree with UEFA being against little old Leicester though, whats the logic? That viewing figures will be bigger for Athletico in the next round for advertising profits? I highly doubt it, we've captured the hearts of so many people across the planet, people that never heard of us three years ago would cream their pants to see us go further.

 

The Mourinho reference was in regards to his eagerness to blame the easiest of targets for random and if not his own shortcomings, that was well proven last season; I wasnt on about Chelsea-Barca /09.

 

Also think you should sit down for attacking my persona aswell as my opinion. Never convinces me when someone starts off by saying 'sorry pal but', that they respect my views. Just end that there lad.

While indeed a decision for the referee to make the Mahrez incident has nothing whatsoever to do with my point. One (Mahrez) centres around a matter of opinion and the other (the penalty) a matter of fact.

 

Referees are supposed to make decisions based on what they see (or an assistant sees). They are not supposed to give what they don't see (because they might be badly positioned, unsighted or because of various uncertainties). If they don't see, they cannot fairly rule an infringement and they are not supposed to guess.

 

With the Atletico penalty the teleivision replay suggests that the referee was perfectly positioned to view the incident and had an excellent view of the line that marked the edge of the penalty area and the place where the Atletico player was fouled. The replay shows a clear gap between the cdoming together and the penalty area.

 

There is a chance though that the referees view at the precise moment of impact might have been impeded y a player blocking or partially blocking his  view and if that is so then he woukldn't necessarily have seen the gap between the contact point and the line and his decision, therefore, would have been based on a guessed assessment by which he would be totally wrong to rule a penalty because you can only give what you see and if something didn't happen (the challenge being in the area) you cannot possibly have seen that it did happen in the area. You can only have guessed/analysed wrongly or decided to rule wrongly. You can't have seen what didn't occur.        

     
 

[STUHILL]

1 hour ago, EGBFitness said:

Why? 

 

Apart feom Greizmann who was a different class, I think we matched them! 

 

We put in a quality defensive display, yes Madrid had more of the ball/ shots which would be expected, I don't think they partucuarly out played us with the amount of time they had with the ball and was forced to take long shots. 

 

A draw would of been a fair result imo. 

Matched them in defence but no where near in attack. We didn't have a shot on target, so I think a 1-0 was about right on the balance of things.

 

I do think we can beat them at ours though if we our a little more adventerous. We must keep a clean sheet though as can't see us scoring 3 

[yorkie1999]

I got sent off in the champions league quarter final is a pretty cool story to tell to your grandkids though.

[EGBFitness]

2 hours ago, Drew Peacock said:

Maybe I am being careful not to have my usual blue tinted glasses on I don't know. Just felt they always looked more of a threat, although I agree defensively we were great. Didn't think we looked like scoring whereas they looked dangerous. Maybe you are right, just how I felt watching it. 

It was a typical mourinho park the bus display. Personally I think our game plan was to sit back and frustrate Madrid for as long as possible knowing their fans would get on their backs with the hope of nicking a 1-0, penalty threw that game plan out the window. 

 

We was silly commiting to many forward forward for that throw, vulnerable as that is what Madrid play for. Agree they was more of a threat but we allowed them to come and attack, we only looked vulnerable at the back the few times we committed  numbers forward otherwise I thought we frustrated Madrid well and restricted them to just long shots. 

 

Will be a different game on Tuesday. 

[EGBFitness]

1 hour ago, STUHILL said:

Matched them in defence but no where near in attack. We didn't have a shot on target, so I think a 1-0 was about right on the balance of things.

 

I do think we can beat them at ours though if we our a little more adventerous. We must keep a clean sheet though as can't see us scoring 3 

As put in a post to other user post. 

 

The prnalty was a lifeline for them otherwise I think we would of hit them on the break as they would of had to come and attack us with more numbers. 

 

They had more of the ball which is bound to happen at their place but shown very little with it. Glimpses of good football by them but resulted to little as defence performed well. 

 

Apart from penalty, no shots on target and shots from range. 

 

Will be a completely different game Tuesday as we have to get a result. Dangerous for us as they are good on the break but think they will be very cautious when to attack. Same reason the wanted Vardy booked as we will have more chances Tuesday 

[onekeithweller]

5 hours ago, Gary Eatfood said:

http://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/soccer/uefa-charges-leicester-sports-scientist-tom-joel-with-improper-conduct-785685.html

 

Encroached into the Madrid technical area to get water to Albrighton. Sounds like a non-event.

Water off a ducks back. 

[WigstonWanderer]

4 hours ago, Koke said:

What would UEFA  gain from conspiring against us? Some of you sound like paranoid Man City fans.

 

It was a shit ref that had a shit game. That's all. Bayern was given a bullshit pen against Real Madrid. One of Monaco goals was a blatant offside. Barcelona were denied a blatant penalty against Juve. 

 

All football fans think officials are out to specifically screw them over because..... corruption.

All the examples you quote could be fixed with the video ref they are trialling here in Oz

[katieakita]

They did not seem to have a problem with Simone leaving his technical area.

[Redouane]

That was the worst referring I ever witnessed in my life. Yesterday, I watched Lyon - Besiktas, and the refeering was so on point.  Why does the Europa league have better refs than the  UCL, i'll never know. 

[Guest Danny Clender]

We should send those lads on the train to raid UEFA's fridge, that'll learn 'em. 

[Thracian]

UEFA would be better attending to why we were stitched up by a totally indefensible refereeing decision instead of worrying about some all-but-irrelevent incident involving water.  

[mozartfox]

He is also due to be tarred and feathered in the Centre Circle (before kick-off next week), followed by a roughing in the Car Park by 10 Spanish Policeman and finally made to watch a video of Forest's last home game.  UEFA justice is not pleasant.

[yorkie1999]

Yellow card app on me iPhone ready for Tuesday. Welcome to the digital age

[justfoxes]

Simeone was upset that we were dishing out superhuman making medication to our squad and invading his technical area which to him was an act of war !!

God Simeone is a tool he thinks he's untouchable by UEFA,but something has to be done about his card waving and the way he's able to persuade an official to dish out a card !!

[Thracian]

I don't believe the decision was conspiracy based. It's far more likely the referee was influenced by the crowd as so many are and so often.

 

Again, it only emphasises the need for modern technology and, while the authorities resist it, suspicions concerning all sorts of other things will persist.