Guest MattP Posted 23 January 2018 Posted 23 January 2018 6 hours ago, reynard said: I actually think this is the deal that tips the balance between the crazy and the offensive. I understand all the millions watch argument but, if true, then his wages are truly repellent. Also the agent's supposed cut of 15million is offensive and is money that could/should go elsewhere in the game. I don't blame the players but all clubs should take some responsibility now. He will pay a lot of tax but really the government should be taxing this sort of wage at 95% on say anything over 250k per week. I'm sure they would still have enough to manage. If the government did that every player on a decent wage would leave the country in the next transfer window. The PL is worth about 4billion quid to the treasury so be careful what you wish for.
Colourmy Posted 23 January 2018 Posted 23 January 2018 I don't care how much anyone gets paid to be honest. They don't pay my bills. It's certainly a few bob though isn't it for a weeks toil!
AjcW Posted 23 January 2018 Posted 23 January 2018 Lennon in at Burnley Interesting to see Dyche focus on the wings with a LM and RM in so far this window. He needs a plan be as a lot of teams are stopping their long balls from the central areas now.
ScouseFox Posted 23 January 2018 Posted 23 January 2018 think that’s a pretty good signing tbf. he’s rubbish most the time but very different to anything else burnley have atm.
Stadt Posted 23 January 2018 Posted 23 January 2018 Now they’ve got someone whose main asset is running fast to go with their players that run loads.
Donut Posted 23 January 2018 Posted 23 January 2018 44 minutes ago, Gerard said: I disagree. No matter how much football gets in revenue the vast majority leaves the game through wages as it's such a competitive industry. People take offence to how much footballers earn but no one really cares that some actors, boxers, golfers, etc earn more. As long as the likes of Sanchez are paying their fair amount of tax and not finding loopholes to not pay it through off shore accounts then I'm absolutely fine with it. PL football is good for our economy. There aint many golfers earning 250k a week trust me
Arriba Los Zorros Posted 23 January 2018 Posted 23 January 2018 16 hours ago, HighPeakFox said: I see, it's a value judgement based on his game. I wondered if he had a bad reputation off the pitch... Yeah as far as I'm aware. He's like a less talented, more whiney version of Diego Costa. Unlikeable as hell. At least Costa is a decent player
AjcW Posted 23 January 2018 Posted 23 January 2018 19 minutes ago, Donut said: There aint many golfers earning 250k a week trust me To be fair though, sports like Tennis, Golf, Snooker etc if you win the first round of a big tournament (even lose sometimes!) you can earn most people yearly wage... I find the thought of someone being a bit shit but not as shit as someone in the qualifiers earning £40k for losing, more annoying than a footballer getting paid a ridiculous amount and always having to be at the top of or just below the top of their game to maintain that level of remuneration.
fuchsntf Posted 23 January 2018 Posted 23 January 2018 4 hours ago, ScouseFox said: they’ve lost 4 games in a row, 5 out of their last 7 and not won for 9 games. wouldn’t exactly call them hard to beat. or anything like us. How easy it is to forget, our bad runs. Plus we still like others have to earn our future and get it done. I dont let blind bias hopes, stop me enjoying Or appreciating the other teams, pleasures or woes.. and what twists x and turns can still have in store, for our heroes..
ScouseFox Posted 23 January 2018 Posted 23 January 2018 2 minutes ago, fuchsntf said: How easy it is to forget, our bad runs. Plus we still like others have to earn our future and get it done. I dont let blind bias hopes, stop me enjoying Or appreciating the other teams, pleasures or woes.. and what twists x and turns can still have in store, for our heroes.. you said they were like our title win, they’ve lost more games in the past 3 weeks than we did all season
Babylon Posted 23 January 2018 Posted 23 January 2018 1 hour ago, Donut said: There aint many golfers earning 250k a week trust me The 50th ranked golfer in terms of pay earned the equivalent of 100k a week last year. The top ranked earnt nearly £1m a week. That does include sponsorship, even without the top ranked was still £336k a week. Sorry for jumping in, just wondered myself what they got so looked it up.
Koke Posted 23 January 2018 Posted 23 January 2018 F1 drivers also earn an obscebe amount of money. 1
Donut Posted 23 January 2018 Posted 23 January 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Babylon said: The 50th ranked golfer in terms of pay earned the equivalent of 100k a week last year. The top ranked earnt nearly £1m a week. That does include sponsorship, even without the top ranked was still £336k a week. Sorry for jumping in, just wondered myself what they got so looked it up. What tour are you talking about in your example? or are you just talking about golfers by world ranking? You need to also remember that there are also developmental tours underneath the main tours like European tour and PGA tour, and that not all the players that are earning on the main tours are actually main tour members/ holding exemptions to be on the tour. Also, a footballer is on a salary of x amount per week, whereas a golfer yes they will also get sponsorship, but their tournament earnings are not guaranteed and they fluctuate, hence their earnings are paid to a wealth management company who will then pay the golfer a "salary" Miss the cut and you get nothing, whilst still paying travel expenses and caddie fees. and a nominal amount to the tournament organisers who put together green reading books, yardage charts, pin charts etc. Edited 23 January 2018 by Donut
fuchsntf Posted 23 January 2018 Posted 23 January 2018 3 minutes ago, ScouseFox said: you said they were like our title win, they’ve lost more games in the past 3 weeks than we did all season Are you bald..?? Splitting hairs...!!! They are/were unfancied, for anything above top 14, from many!! They competed above expectations, and even in their losses, they fought and showed spirit till the end. And it must be said, since their promotion, have not like us, in the recent past, played turgid lazy football. We have become competitive and exciting again, and it starts to look like difficult to beat... That honour, was this season in Burnleys football. Now this is just my opinion, but Burnleys indifferent run, they will bring it around..against Manu, they never deserved that loss.They kept a good spirit over this season, that we seemed to have lost for a while... Puel is building something here..Sean Dyche is going to be an credible and interesting competitor.
Koke Posted 23 January 2018 Posted 23 January 2018 On a different note, this would be totally hilarious if it happened. https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/allardyce-axed-after-leicester.101790/
Wymsey Posted 23 January 2018 Posted 23 January 2018 14 minutes ago, Koke said: F1 drivers also earn an obscebe amount of money. And some act like idiots, as well.
Arriba Los Zorros Posted 23 January 2018 Posted 23 January 2018 20 minutes ago, fuchsntf said: Are you bald..?? Splitting hairs...!!! They are/were unfancied, for anything above top 14, from many!! They competed above expectations, and even in their losses, they fought and showed spirit till the end. And it must be said, since their promotion, have not like us, in the recent past, played turgid lazy football. We have become competitive and exciting again, and it starts to look like difficult to beat... That honour, was this season in Burnleys football. Now this is just my opinion, but Burnleys indifferent run, they will bring it around..against Manu, they never deserved that loss.They kept a good spirit over this season, that we seemed to have lost for a while... Puel is building something here..Sean Dyche is going to be an credible and interesting competitor. They're still northen ****ing monkeys though. Fúck Burnley and especially Fúck Seany Dick.
TheUltimateWinner Posted 23 January 2018 Posted 23 January 2018 25 minutes ago, Koke said: On a different note, this would be totally hilarious if it happened. https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/allardyce-axed-after-leicester.101790/ Blimey, I didn't know things were really that bad that the majority of fans want Allardyce gone already...
Colourmy Posted 23 January 2018 Posted 23 January 2018 2 hours ago, AjcW said: To be fair though, sports like Tennis, Golf, Snooker etc if you win the first round of a big tournament (even lose sometimes!) you can earn most people yearly wage... I find the thought of someone being a bit shit but not as shit as someone in the qualifiers earning £40k for losing, more annoying than a footballer getting paid a ridiculous amount and always having to be at the top of or just below the top of their game to maintain that level of remuneration. Only after the current contract expires! Footballers are the kings of being able to manipulate their performances or niggling injuries. Daniel Sturridge is the finest there is!
Donut Posted 23 January 2018 Posted 23 January 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, AjcW said: To be fair though, sports like Tennis, Golf, Snooker etc if you win the first round of a big tournament (even lose sometimes!) you can earn most people yearly wage... I find the thought of someone being a bit shit but not as shit as someone in the qualifiers earning £40k for losing, more annoying than a footballer getting paid a ridiculous amount and always having to be at the top of or just below the top of their game to maintain that level of remuneration. I wouldnt dismiss those players that lose in the first round of a tournament or miss a golf cut. Theyre still playing well in spite of losing. I know more about the standards in golf than snooker and tennis, i am a fan of snooker and tennis but know a bit more intimately about golf and the levels. If top 70 and tied makes the cut one week on PGA Tour for example and cut line was -1, you could get a guy shoot 72, 72 and still miss the cut. The way the course is set up for tournament week, normal SSS for the course may be 75 if playing say 7,200 yards. Add in rough, tournament speed greens, pins cut close to the bunkers and tournament pressure, that may bump up the SSS to 76 or 77. If its 77 (not uncommon, ive seen SSS of 78 in Lytham Trophy etc where this is calculated, obviously for pros there is no handicap calculation) then that guy played to the equivalent of a +5 handicap thursday and friday and STILL missed the cut. Its hard work. Edited 23 January 2018 by Donut
Wymsey Posted 23 January 2018 Posted 23 January 2018 (edited) Sean Dyche signs new deal until 2022, reportedly worth £3.5m annually.. A lot of pound notes there.. Edited 23 January 2018 by Wymeswold fox
fuchsntf Posted 23 January 2018 Posted 23 January 2018 17 minutes ago, Arriba Los Zorros said: They're still northen ****ing monkeys though. Fúck Burnley and especially Fúck Seany Dick. Detecto Un Zorro rabioso...Methinks!
Arriba Los Zorros Posted 23 January 2018 Posted 23 January 2018 6 minutes ago, fuchsntf said: Detecto Un Zorro rabioso...Methinks! Haha, !me encanta!
fuchsntf Posted 23 January 2018 Posted 23 January 2018 27 minutes ago, Donut said: I wouldnt dismiss those players that lose in the first round of a tournament or miss a golf cut. Theyre still playing well in spite of losing. I know more about the standards in golf than snooker and tennis, i am a fan of snooker and tennis but know a bit more intimately about golf and the levels. If top 70 and tied makes the cut one week on PGA Tour for example and cut line was -1, you could get a guy shoot 72, 72 and still miss the cut. The way the course is set up for tournament week, normal SSS for the course may be 75 if playing say 7,200 yards. Add in rough, tournament speed greens, pins cut close to the bunkers and tournament pressure, that may bump up the SSS to 76 or 77. If its 77 (not uncommon, ive seen SSS of 78 in Lytham Trophy etc where this is calculated, obviously for pros there is no handicap calculation) then that guy played to the equivalent of a +5 handicap thursday and friday and STILL missed the cut. Its hard work. Thx for that. I appreciate golfers, but Its the one sport I rarely go out my way to watch.. But enjoyed the info..
Fox1norfolk Posted 23 January 2018 Posted 23 January 2018 Trying to get back on course the theme of the comments in the Premier League, 2017-2018 Season Thread. My concern is that the Premier League is now out of control, its not truly competitive because it basically its not a level playing field. Several of the top 4-5 clubs have unlimited spending power, the mid group of teams including the Foxes have very average funding, but can't compete with the top 4-5, several of the ones below do not have the financial backing to compete with the ones above them. The top 4 can cherry pick the most expensive players and pay them £millions per year. This puts the mid and lower table clubs out of contention and more or less (except for our unique achievement 2 seasons ago) guarantees them a top 4 European place every year, the rest in reality have no chance. A very radical change has to be made to create a level playing field and competitive league. I suggest take a look at premiership rugby league which has a salary cap for every club. A much fairer system producing close competitive games and no guarantees who will win the league each season. Could this work with our league ? 1
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