Premier League, 2017-2018 Season Thread

[Wymsey]

Swansea have Arsenal at home next.

Wouldn't be surprised if they are up fitbit after tonight and give it a real go.

 

[Jimothy]

3 hours ago, Wymeswold fox said:

So Sanchez' wages will be about £2m per month, whilst nurses in hospitals etc get significantly less for doing a complex and mentally stressful job etc?

Due to Sky, TV rights etc, this type of thing will only get worse and at some point the balloon will burst surely.

As needlessly huge as a Sanchez's wages are, what a private company choose to pay an employee is entirely up to them as long as they can sustain paying it. Yeah nurses should probably be paid more, but that's government decision, not Man Utd's. And Sanchez getting a massive wage packet doesn't stop a nurse getting any more money, in fact his monthly tax probably pays a few nurses wages for a year.

[the fox]

[pazzerfox]

Liverpool wouldn't have scored had they been playing until thursday!  How is that possible...against Swansea City!!!!  Football is a strange game.

[simFox]

1 hour ago, Phube said:

 

But millions of people don’t pay to watch nurses (etc.) do their job...

But if they sold tickets...

[Spudulike]

23 minutes ago, Cadno'r Cymoedd said:

It wouldn't surprise me if the three promoted sides eventually suffer the drop. 

 

We need to get the 3 more wins soon I think we need to be totally sure of not getting sucked into anything stupid. Going to get messy down there. Ever the optimist, me! 

Weird how the bottom half has got so bunched up. Normally at least one is cut adrift by now (as we were in 2014/15).

 

I'm trying to work out if this means it will take more or less than the standard 40 pts needed for survival given with how it's panning out

[Donut]

22 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

Weird how the bottom half has got so bunched up. Normally at least one is cut adrift by now (as we were in 2014/15).

 

I'm trying to work out if this means it will take more or less than the standard 40 pts needed for survival given with how it's panning out

Id say less, as theyll all stop each other getting points and generally keep each other embroiled in the battle.

 

Plus, there isnt a Derby, or a Villa in there that are more weeks than not fodder that everyone beats.

[ajthefox]

38 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

Weird how the bottom half has got so bunched up. Normally at least one is cut adrift by now (as we were in 2014/15).

 

I'm trying to work out if this means it will take more or less than the standard 40 pts needed for survival given with how it's panning out

Watford in 10th are 6 points off 8th place Burnley with a GD that is 9 worse. 

They are also 6 points off bottom place Swansea with a GD that is 9 better.

 

Bonkers.

[surrifox]

36 minutes ago, Donut said:

Id say less, as theyll all stop each other getting points and generally keep each other embroiled in the battle.

 

Plus, there isnt a Derby, or a Villa in there that are more weeks than not fodder that everyone beats.

I agree - should be less .

Clubs are happy to bin underperforming managers to get the dead cat bounce effect to gain points - the promoted sides hold off longer and are more loyal so that could be fatal in the short term . Ultimately though it's likely that 37 should be around the cut off - i.e. One win for us - I think we will be good enough to get that 

[Aus Fox]

4 hours ago, fuchsntf said:

Enjoyable earthy," its what its all about" PL game of football.

 

if this carries on...42pts for safety 14-15 teams still in the mix..????

makes you think. Leicester aint got any easy points acoming...brill.!!

Can't see more than 3 teams claiming more than16 points from the last 14 games.

One or two will implode shortly and lose 8/9 of the remaining games and only pick up a couple of draws.

This season you can't afford to go on a bad run. I fancy Huddersfield to go on a poor run and be relegated the other two spots are anyone's. would like to see Stoke and WBA drop.

[WigstonWanderer]

7 hours ago, Phube said:

 

But millions of people don’t pay to watch nurses (etc.) do their job...

I might.

 

 

[reynard]

12 hours ago, Wymeswold fox said:

So Sanchez' wages will be about £2m per month, whilst nurses in hospitals etc get significantly less for doing a complex and mentally stressful job etc?

Due to Sky, TV rights etc, this type of thing will only get worse and at some point the balloon will burst surely.

I actually think this is the deal that tips the balance between the crazy and the offensive. I understand all the millions watch argument but, if true, then his wages are truly repellent. Also the agent's supposed cut of 15million is offensive and is money that could/should go elsewhere in the game.

I don't blame the players but all clubs should take some responsibility now.

He will pay a lot of tax but really the government should be taxing this sort of wage at 95% on say anything over 250k per week. I'm sure they would still have enough to manage.

[Leeds Fox]

3 minutes ago, reynard said:

I actually think this is the deal that tips the balance between the crazy and the offensive. I understand all the millions watch argument but, if true, then his wages are truly repellent. Also the agent's supposed cut of 15million is offensive and is money that could/should go elsewhere in the game.

I don't blame the players but all clubs should take some responsibility now.

He will pay a lot of tax but really the government should be taxing this sort of wage at 95% on say anything over 250k per week. I'm sure they would still have enough to manage.

 

If they did that, it’d effectively cap the wage. Not doing this and taking the cut they currently take and wages rising as they are, the government will be better off. 

[The Doctor]

9 hours ago, fuchsntf said:

Enjoyable earthy," its what its all about" PL game of football.

 

if this carries on...42pts for safety 14-15 teams still in the mix..????

makes you think. Leicester aint got any easy points acoming...brill.!!

Definitely not 14-15 teams still in the mix, that'd include us and arsenal. Anyone in the bottom half can go though

[reynard]

1 minute ago, Leeds Fox said:

 

If they did that, it’d effectively cap the wage. Not doing this and taking the cut they currently take and wages rising as they are, the government will be better off. 

I know but I would like to see the wages capped and the agent's fees taxed at that sort of rate as well. I do realise I'm living in cloud cuckoo land but the sort of wages these players receive is frankly obscene.

[Leeds Fox]

35 minutes ago, reynard said:

I know but I would like to see the wages capped and the agent's fees taxed at that sort of rate as well. I do realise I'm living in cloud cuckoo land but the sort of wages these players receive is frankly obscene.

 

Fair enough Reynard, I wasn’t disagreeing with you, just saying the ‘taxman’ would be losing out so can’t see the government doing anything about it.

[fuchsntf]

1 hour ago, The Doctor said:

Definitely not 14-15 teams still in the mix, that'd include us and arsenal. Anyone in the bottom half can go though

I was using Poetic license...just to make it exciting...

Plus I really dont expect Everton (Even after we beat them) nor Burnley, to drop out the top 10.

Burnley are basically like we were in our title season, on the money full concentrated, and are

Playing imo, consistently good football, and hard to beat. This top 7 is not yet confirmed...

[Guest]

12 hours ago, simFox said:

But if they sold tickets...

I'm sure if it was put on the internet they'd be a lot of people watching - there are some weird people out there.

[ScouseFox]

1 hour ago, fuchsntf said:

I was using Poetic license...just to make it exciting...

Plus I really dont expect Everton (Even after we beat them) nor Burnley, to drop out the top 10.

Burnley are basically like we were in our title season, on the money full concentrated, and are

Playing imo, consistently good football, and hard to beat. This top 7 is not yet confirmed...

 

they’ve lost 4 games in a row, 5 out of their last 7 and not won for 9 games. wouldn’t exactly call them hard to beat. or anything like us. 

[Koke]

Burnley have scored 19 goals in 24 games, that's the third lowest in the league. Granted they've only conceded 21. We have scored 36, a whopping 17 goals more than Burnley. This is why we will finish above them. Besides the fact that we are a better team than them, we also don't rely on 0-0s and 1-0s. 

Edited 23 January 2018 by Koke

[winteriscoming]

Liverpool are now being refered to as robin hood - steal from the rich give to the poor 

[Guest]

Just now, winteriscoming said:

Liverpool are now being refered to as robin hood - steal from the rich give to the poor 

nah

 

Robin Hood as in No Fuching good.

[BenTheFox]

I don't know what others make of this opinion, but I think Wolves's current squad would comfortably stay in the premier league this season. 

[Donut]

51 minutes ago, BenTheFox said:

I don't know what others make of this opinion, but I think Wolves's current squad would comfortably stay in the premier league this season. 

In theory, yes, as its full of players that wouldn't be available for a club like wolves if they didn't have the link with the super agent.

 

Ruben Neves for example in a normal scenario would not be playing in the championship. Nor Diogo Jota.

[Gerard]

5 hours ago, reynard said:

I actually think this is the deal that tips the balance between the crazy and the offensive. I understand all the millions watch argument but, if true, then his wages are truly repellent. Also the agent's supposed cut of 15million is offensive and is money that could/should go elsewhere in the game.

I don't blame the players but all clubs should take some responsibility now.

He will pay a lot of tax but really the government should be taxing this sort of wage at 95% on say anything over 250k per week. I'm sure they would still have enough to manage.

 

I disagree. No matter how much football gets in revenue the vast majority leaves the game through wages as it's such a competitive industry. People take offence to how much footballers earn but no one really cares that some actors, boxers, golfers, etc earn more. 

 

As long as the likes of Sanchez are paying their fair amount of tax and not finding loopholes to not pay it through off shore accounts then I'm absolutely fine with it. PL football is good for our economy.