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Harry - LCFC

General Election, June 8th

By Harry - LCFC, in General Chat

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ramboacdc

ramboacdc

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1 hour ago, Webbo said:

 

 

1 hour ago, MattP said:

Westminster voting intention:

CON: 46% (+1)
LAB: 34% (-)
LDEM: 7% (-1)
UKIP: 5% (-)
GRN: 2% (-1)

(via @ICMResearch / 06 - 07 Jun)

gives tory majority between 84 and 94

breadandcheese

breadandcheese

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15 minutes ago, The Guvnor said:

Picked this up from daily politics show David Lammy, Labour , went into this tax proposal in some detail talking about the disparity of wealth from the North and the South and stated this tax would go somewhere towards bridging that gap, It certainly sounded like it was a serious proposal to me.

It is a typical Corbyn policy. Assessing a problem and drawing all the wrong conclusions. As someone else said earlier, the majority of people in the South East are asset rich, cash poor. So I'm not sure where a large proportion would find the money to pay a tax that would unquestionably be far higher than council tax. It blasts open the false statement of only the top 5% of earners paying more.

 

It would also cause house prices to fall. I appreciate that some would celebrate this as house prices in the South east have gone cloud cuckoo. However, the effects of a sudden drop would be negative equity for a lot of buyers, potential foreclosures and problems with the banks' liquidity ratios which would stifle lending as they try to repair their balance sheets to meet the current regulations. Ironically, the only people to benefit in this scenario would be those who have liquidity and can snap up some distressed assets, which would be the very wealthy. Corbyn would end up helping the very wealthy. So really, the unintended consequences of this land value tax would be really quite shit. 

 

lifted*fox

lifted*fox

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Just remember, if you're voting Tory, voting for May, then you're voting for the woman who told an NHS nurse, someone who might look after your sick parents / kids, who hadn't seen a pay rise in 8 years that there 'is no magic money tree' live on TV without the slightest hint of emotion, like it was ****ing nothing. 

 

You're voting for someone who doesn't have a positive ****ing word in her entire party manifesto. It's basically "shit is bad, it's gonna get worse but hey ho, that's the tough times we're living in'. 

 

Vote for that and sleep at night? Right. 

Guest Kopfkino

Guest Kopfkino

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10 minutes ago, daz*dsb said:

Just remember, if you're voting Tory, voting for May, then you're voting for the woman who told an NHS nurse, someone who might look after your sick parents / kids, who hadn't seen a pay rise in 8 years that there 'is no magic money tree' live on TV without the slightest hint of emotion, like it was ****ing nothing. 

 

You're voting for someone who doesn't have a positive ****ing word in her entire party manifesto. It's basically "shit is bad, it's gonna get worse but hey ho, that's the tough times we're living in'. 

 

Vote for that and sleep at night? Right. 

 

Says a lot about the Labour party then doesn't it. Probably aren't going to get anywhere near a leader and party that has had a disastrous campaign and offered up a manifesto that has been greeted with massive negativity across the board.

How will the left and Momentum at night knowing that a it was there for the taking and a moderately competent leader and shadow front bench would have put Labour in a position to stop May. I suppose they'll all be out protesting Saturday, occupying Trafalgar Square and taking to Twitter to dismiss any Conservative voter as stupid and intellectually beneath them. 

 

MPH

MPH

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16 minutes ago, daz*dsb said:

Just remember, if you're voting Tory, voting for May, then you're voting for the woman who told an NHS nurse, someone who might look after your sick parents / kids, who hadn't seen a pay rise in 8 years that there 'is no magic money tree' live on TV without the slightest hint of emotion, like it was ****ing nothing. 

 

You're voting for someone who doesn't have a positive ****ing word in her entire party manifesto. It's basically "shit is bad, it's gonna get worse but hey ho, that's the tough times we're living in'. 

 

Vote for that and sleep at night? Right. 

 

 

I think anyone will say to you that May has the charisma and tact of a bull in a china shop but this country IS in a mess and its  not going to be easy to get out of it....  thats actually being truthful...

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19 minutes ago, daz*dsb said:

Just remember, if you're voting Tory, voting for May, then you're voting for the woman who told an NHS nurse, someone who might look after your sick parents / kids, who hadn't seen a pay rise in 8 years that there 'is no magic money tree' live on TV without the slightest hint of emotion, like it was ****ing nothing. 

 

You're voting for someone who doesn't have a positive ****ing word in her entire party manifesto. It's basically "shit is bad, it's gonna get worse but hey ho, that's the tough times we're living in'. 

 

Vote for that and sleep at night? Right. 

I've voted Tory in my postal vote, I will sleep fine tonight. Yes the country is in a mess, the NHS is overstretched and under funded but see the Tories as the lesser of two evils. The thought of Corbyn in charge scares me. Does voting Tory make me a cvnt... quite possibly but that's a democracy for you.

Legend_in_blue

Legend_in_blue

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There's very little point seeing beyond the blue vote in South Leicestershire.  

 

I don't see the point of the others turning up.  

 

As for people spoiling their vote, again this is pointless.  You may as well go into McDonald's, order a big Mac and then throw it in the bin.

Guest

Guest

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1 hour ago, MPH said:

 

 

 

Survived quite well before the E.U.. what makes you think we'll implode after it?

Well the tories told us we would before the brexit vote

Great Boos Up

Great Boos Up

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16 minutes ago, Legend_in_blue said:

As for people spoiling their vote, again this is pointless.  You may as well go into McDonald's, order a big Mac and then throw it in the bin.

I've done both. Strangely they both gave me a great sense of well being. Only lasts a day though. 

Guest

Guest

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All the polls so far today. 

 

 

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ramboacdc

ramboacdc

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more polls are out

 

Surveymonkey: CON 42%(-2), LAB 38%(nc), LDEM 6%(nc), UKIP 4%(nc).  can fall between tories short 6 or over the line by 18

 

Panelbase: CON 44%(nc), LAB 36%(nc), LDEM 7%(nc), UKIP 5%(nc), GRN 2%(-1) gives conservatives 28 over to 62 over

Guest Dirkster the Fox

Guest Dirkster the Fox

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1 hour ago, daz*dsb said:

Just remember, if you're voting Tory, voting for May, then you're voting for the woman who told an NHS nurse, someone who might look after your sick parents / kids, who hadn't seen a pay rise in 8 years that there 'is no magic money tree' live on TV without the slightest hint of emotion, like it was ****ing nothing. 

 

You're voting for someone who doesn't have a positive ****ing word in her entire party manifesto. It's basically "shit is bad, it's gonna get worse but hey ho, that's the tough times we're living in'. 

 

Vote for that and sleep at night? Right. 

Just remember, if you're voting Labour, voting for Corbyn, then you're voting for the man who is career Marxist campaigner and is hiding his real intentions in a Labour Party cloak.  He hands out free this, extra that without a care for the real cost, ducking Brexit, uncontrolled immigration, lies about his real stance on defense, ooh the irony on Police and worst of all, duping many about the impact of his policies on the economy, just like it was ****ing nothing. 

 

You're voting for someone who gives out unrealistic positive utopia, just like the words in his entire party manifesto. It's basically "Rich are bad, it's gonna get even better when i get middle earners money as well, but hey ho it'll roger the economy and then i'll need to somehow take even more money, but that's the tough times we'll all end up living in'. 

 

Vote for that and sleep at night? Right.

MPH

MPH

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49 minutes ago, toddybad said:

Well the tories told us we would before the brexit vote

 

 

and when exactly did the tories say he would implode after leaving the EU?

LiberalFox

LiberalFox

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2 hours ago, Matt said:

Calm down.

 

I don't get people who go crazy, outrage at either of these parties.

 

They are both shit, they do both scaremonger, they both tell massive lies (All parties do for that matter).

 

However as Sir Shep said where are the centre parties, the middle ground?

 

It's a big one, important one, but at the same time either way nothing will change, I don't get the massive arguements, massive outrage, something I call fake outrage (Forget 'Fake News')

 

I used to get outraged a few years ago, but have since learnt that nothing changes and there is no point in getting wound up, angry or outraged, people want change, I want change but the disillousion I have learnt since...what's the point. :dunno:

It's hard to get more than 2 contenders under FPTP. The Lib Dems are your middle ground. The result does matter.

Guest

Guest

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2 minutes ago, Webbo said:

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which poll is this?

Interesting that Labour and the Tories appear to have split the UKIP vote if this was accurate.

Would also mean the same % margin as last time out - perhaps having an election after 2 years was just pointless? But what would it mean seats wise - I assume an increased majority?

Let's just hope the young get out in force and carry Labour home!

Webbo

Webbo

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1 minute ago, toddybad said:

which poll is this?

Interesting that Labour and the Tories appear to have split the UKIP vote if this was accurate.

Would also mean the same % margin as last time out - perhaps having an election after 2 years was just pointless? But what would it mean seats wise - I assume an increased majority?

Let's just hope the young get out in force and carry Labour home!

Times/yougov

Guest

Guest

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Kantar‘s final poll has topline figures of CON 43%(nc), LAB 38%(+5), LDEM 7%(-4), UKIP 4%(nc). Fieldwork was between Thursday and today and shows a narrowing of the Tory lead to just five points – Kantar have previously tended to show larger leads. Note that there is a very minor methodology change here, Kantar have fixed the share of the 2017 vote coming from 2015 Conservative and Labour voters at 61% – I’m not sure exactly what that means, but it has only a minor effect anyway, increasing the Tory lead by one point. Tables are here.

Guest

Guest

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Just now, Sharpe's Fox said:

Iol yougov bottled it hilarious 

Wonder if they changed their methodology at the last minute or if overnight polling suddenly changed

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