MPH Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 13 minutes ago, st albans fox said: pulis makes Evans captain - would be awkward for your captain to hand in a transfer request or alternatively for you to sell him a few weeks after appointing him. Suspect Evans wants more money to stay there and this is pulis' clever way of forcing the club to accede and keep his man there. such a development, in my mind, makes it far less likely that Jonny Evans will end the window in blue. With huth injured, I am a bit worried. Not convinced we ever look tight without Huth's organisation Pulis seems to have an uncanny ability to make himself look a right tit when it comes to players leaving...
st albans fox Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 15 minutes ago, MPH said: Pulis seems to have an uncanny ability to make himself look a right tit when it comes to players leaving... I thought this looked like a way of moving the responsibility to the board if it came to that. Match our wage offer and he will stay. Pulis has certainly raised the stakes. Not sure he could afford to walk out though after his palace court case loss.
sphericalfox Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 44 minutes ago, st albans fox said: pulis makes Evans captain - would be awkward for your captain to hand in a transfer request or alternatively for you to sell him a few weeks after appointing him. Suspect Evans wants more money to stay there and this is pulis' clever way of forcing the club to accede and keep his man there. such a development, in my mind, makes it far less likely that Jonny Evans will end the window in blue. With huth injured, I am a bit worried. Not convinced we ever look tight without Huth's organisation Chris Brunt I think was the their vice-captain last year, Fletcher being the captain. As Fletcher has left (Evans' pal), it might be difficult for him to want to step into this role anyways. Evans is a top pro, but he's not entirely happy with WBA. We have a good chance of picking him up if the offer is sufficient. WBA might be even considering it, but they won't be selling him unless they have a replacement lined up.
st albans fox Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 Just now, sphericalfox said: Chris Brunt I think was the their vice-captain last year, Fletcher being the captain. As Fletcher has left (Evans' pal), it might be difficult for him to want to step into this role anyways. Evans is a top pro, but he's not entirely happy with WBA. We have a good chance of picking him up if the offer is sufficient. WBA might be even considering it, but they won't be selling him unless they have a replacement lined up. So he should refuse the captaincy but he won't because he will link it to a bigger contract and he can't be 100% certain that a move to us would conclude. Imagine us making kasper captain tomorrow and then selling him to yanited in a couple weeks - how would that make us look?? On the other hand - their captain has left so if they don't make him captain (or vice captain) it looks a bit odd as he is clearly the next in line with brunt. On reflection, tricky .......
MPH Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 2 hours ago, sphericalfox said: Chris Brunt I think was the their vice-captain last year, Fletcher being the captain. As Fletcher has left (Evans' pal), it might be difficult for him to want to step into this role anyways. Evans is a top pro, but he's not entirely happy with WBA. We have a good chance of picking him up if the offer is sufficient. WBA might be even considering it, but they won't be selling him unless they have a replacement lined up. Huth and 8 million?
MPH Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 Don't get me wrong, want to keep Huth but maguire Huth Morgan Evans... don't think we can keep all four happy....
STUHILL Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 Just now, MPH said: Don't get me wrong, want to keep Huth but maguire Huth Morgan Evans... don't think we can keep all four happy.... Think it would be Morgan/Evans (with Huth injured) starting the season and then Maguire/Evans for most of the season, with Huth/Morgan playing when required and moving on next summer. Be great to keep all our players happy, but if we want a squad full of quality, then just not possible to give everyone enough minutes. Prefer that though, than having replacements who aren't as good but comfortable with less minutes.
weller54 Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 4 minutes ago, MPH said: Don't get me wrong, want to keep Huth but maguire Huth Morgan Evans... don't think we can keep all four happy.... Musa could give some advice on how to keep 'all four ' happy?
AmarteyAndChill Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 5 minutes ago, MPH said: Don't get me wrong, want to keep Huth but maguire Huth Morgan Evans... don't think we can keep all four happy.... 1.Evans 2.Maguire 3.Huth 4.Morgan would be how I rank those from best to worse.
AmarteyAndChill Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 1 minute ago, STUHILL said: Think it would be Morgan/Evans (with Huth injured) starting the season and then Maguire/Evans for most of the season, with Huth/Morgan playing when required and moving on next summer. Be great to keep all our players happy, but if we want a squad full of quality, then just not possible to give everyone enough minutes. Prefer that though, than having replacements who aren't as good but comfortable with less minutes. I'd be shocked if Maguire wasn't one of our CBs vs Arsenal.
sphericalfox Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 5 minutes ago, AmarteyAndChill said: 1.Evans 2.Maguire 3.Huth 4.Morgan would be how I rank those from best to worse. Where's Benny & St. Ledger in that list?
STUHILL Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 Just now, AmarteyAndChill said: I'd be shocked if Maguire wasn't one of our CBs vs Arsenal. I'd prefer Evans and Maguire starting. I just think that Shakey will start Capt. Morgan for the first game no matter what. Morgan/Maguire seems most likely I guess with Huth out. Although can't imagine Evans coming and sitting on the bench for first few games if we do sign him. We also have Benny who did well when he came in. If we do sign another top CB, surely he will go.
MPH Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 7 minutes ago, STUHILL said: Think it would be Morgan/Evans (with Huth injured) starting the season and then Maguire/Evans for most of the season, with Huth/Morgan playing when required and moving on next summer. Be great to keep all our players happy, but if we want a squad full of quality, then just not possible to give everyone enough minutes. Prefer that though, than having replacements who aren't as good but comfortable with less minutes. It's a tough one for sure...
MPH Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 7 minutes ago, AmarteyAndChill said: 1.Evans 2.Maguire 3.Huth 4.Morgan would be how I rank those from best to worse. Not it saying I disagree with you, but I'd be surprised if they tossed aside the captain that way...
MPH Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 1 minute ago, STUHILL said: I'd prefer Evans and Maguire starting. I just think that Shakey will start Capt. Morgan for the first game no matter what. Morgan/Maguire seems most likely I guess with Huth out. Although can't imagine Evans coming and sitting on the bench for first few games if we do sign him. We also have Benny who did well when he came in. If we do sign another top CB, surely he will go. It it makes you wonder if we would 'reluctantly' accept Newcastles offer for Morgan...
AmarteyAndChill Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 Just now, MPH said: Not it saying I disagree with you, but I'd be surprised if they tossed aside the captain that way... I'd be suprised if he started considering Evans and Maguire are better than him... We didn't miss him to badly at the end of last season and he was awful from September - March..
MPH Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 2 minutes ago, AmarteyAndChill said: I'd be suprised if he started considering Evans and Maguire are better than him... We didn't miss him to badly at the end of last season and he was awful from September - March.. Who wasnt though? He plays better when those around him do as well... plus he didn't have Kante protecting him hd to get used to it, Huth was the same.
STUHILL Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 2 minutes ago, MPH said: It it makes you wonder if we would 'reluctantly' accept Newcastles offer for Morgan... I rate Huth higher than Morgan and so if we do sign Evans or Smalling or Zouma etc, then I would start Maguire with one of them and then have Huth as 3rd choice ahead of Morgan, and not sure Morgan would be happy with such a minimal role, whereas Benny may be ok as 4th choice again. So yes, absolutely I would entertain the idea of selling Morgan... Harsh but sensible I think!
UPinCarolina Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 At this rate, the only way Morgan goes is if Huth recovers quickly and we buy another CB. I can see us not buying another CB and instead bidding for RB cover.
gurru991 Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 1 hour ago, STUHILL said: I rate Huth higher than Morgan and so if we do sign Evans or Smalling or Zouma etc, then I would start Maguire with one of them and then have Huth as 3rd choice ahead of Morgan, and not sure Morgan would be happy with such a minimal role, whereas Benny may be ok as 4th choice again. So yes, absolutely I would entertain the idea of selling Morgan... Harsh but sensible I think! Football at the end of the day is a business !! I can see Morgan moving back to the championship and doing very well there. Benny really isn't Prem league quality & his decision making is suspect, would be ok for a game or two but not long term.
DannyN83 Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 I was confident that this one would happen, but if they've gave him the captaincy they must be pretty certain he is staying.
VLC86 Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 21 minutes ago, gurru991 said: Football at the end of the day is a business !! I can see Morgan moving back to the championship and doing very well there. Benny really isn't Prem league quality & his decision making is suspect, would be ok for a game or two but not long term. Morgan moving back to the championship? The same guy that was an absolute rock the season before last and we were praying was fit for the champions league quarter finals. Get a grip.
foxes21 Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 Whatever CB we sign, Morgan and Huth will still be the best partnership at the club.
st albans fox Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 9 minutes ago, foxes21 said: Whatever CB we sign, Morgan and Huth will still be the best partnership at the club. Given that maguire hasn't had any time to build anything that's hardly a shock statement however, if it's still true come December I suspect we will be having a very tough season
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