A little bit disenchanted

[Izzy]

3 hours ago, David Lowe said:

The problem for some clubs such as Stoke/West Brom is that once you have stopped up for so many years, there is very little to get excited about. Only 2 teams can win the cups and I fear this may usually be members of the top 7 in years to come. However I don't think Leicester should have reached this stage yet having only been back up for 3 seasons. The problem really is once you have won the league, there is nowhere to go. At least last season we had the excitement of the Championships League. This season we might get a perfectly good mid-table finish but that is all unless we do have a cup run. The problem with stability is that the yo yo existence is actually more exciting.

I think this applies exactly the same for our older more seasoned pro's who won the PL.

 

They've climbed Everest and achieved the impossible. Nothing else will ever be as good again for them - they lived the dream, so now what?

 

Some of them have also represented their country dozens of times and also got to the 1/4 of the CL. They're financially made for life and people wonder why some of them don't look hungry or motivated anymore? I get the whole 'professional pride' bit but I don't believe for one minute they 'want it' as bad second time around. 

 

And I reckon the only player who genuinely believes he can win the PL again is Mahrez - and he's the one who'd asked to leave. The rest are on a right cushy little number and probably know they'll never win it again.

 

We won the league with a group of misfits who all had a point to prove. Well now they've all proved their point so it's time to give youth a chance and find players who also have that point to prove.

 

I'd be starting the season playing Gray, Chillwell and Lawrence if I was Shakey...

Edited 31 July 2017 by Izzy Muzzett

[GaelicFox]

4 minutes ago, Izzy Muzzett said:

I think this applies exactly the same for our older more seasoned pro's who won the PL.

 

They've climbed Everest and achieved the impossible. Nothing else will ever be as good again for them - they lived the dream, so now what?

 

Some of them have also represented their country dozens of times and also got to the 1/4 of the CL. They're financially made for life and people wonder why some of them don't look hungry or motivated anymore? I get the whole 'professional pride' bit but I don't believe for one minute they 'want it' as bad second time around. 

 

And I reckon the only player who genuinely believes he can win the PL again is Mahrez - and he's the one who'd asked to leave. The rest are on a right cushy little number and probably know they'll never win it again.

 

We won the league with a group of misfits who all had a point to prove. Well now they've all proved their point so it's time to give youth a chance and find players who also have that point to prove.

 

I'd be starting the season playing Gray, Chillwell and Lawrence if I was Shakey...

THIS 

THIS

THIS 

 

 

class of 96 comes to mind 

 

[Smudge]

5 minutes ago, Izzy Muzzett said:

I think this applies exactly the same for our older more seasoned pro's who won the PL.

 

They've climbed Everest and achieved the impossible. Nothing else will ever be as good again for them - they lived the dream, so now what?

 

Some of them have also represented their country dozens of times and also got to the 1/4 of the CL. They're financially made for life and people wonder why some of them don't look hungry or motivated anymore? I get the whole 'professional pride' bit but I don't believe for one minute they 'want it' as bad second time around. 

 

And I reckon the only player who genuinely believes he can win the PL again is Mahrez - and he's the one who'd asked to leave. The rest are on a right cushy little number and probably know they'll never win it again.

 

We won the league with a group of misfits who all had a point to prove. Well now they've all proved their point so it's time to give youth a chance and find players who also have that point to prove.

 

I'd be starting with Gray, Chillwell and Lawrence if I was Shakey...

Which says a lot about our squad when none of them are proven Premiership players

[CosbehFox]

By the way forgot wanting million pound signings, Id rather seen an extension to the ground. Giving younger generations a chance to watch their local team play and stop a money generating scheme in memberships 

[GaelicFox]

1 minute ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

By the way forgot wanting million pound signings, Id rather seen an extension to the ground. Giving younger generations a chance to watch their local team play and stop a money generating scheme in memberships 

And the 10% discount for STH retained !!!

[Gerard]

I can fully empathise with the OP's feelings. It's like being the average looking guy who had a holiday romance with a supermodel and now you're back home knowing you've reached the heights and every other girl won't live up to her.

 

I too have a slight hangover from Leicester winning the title. It's always been a dream for me to see Leicester win the title or Champions League but one I never thought I'd live to see. The fact that we reached the heights that we'll probably never live to see again and now everything else seems a little underwhelming. It's hard to get up and feel euphoric about qualifying for the Europa League when you've previously dined at the top table.

 

There is a Chinese curse. "May all your wishes come true".

[Smudge]

1 minute ago, Gerard said:

I can fully empathise with the OP's feelings. It's like being the average looking guy who had a holiday romance with a supermodel and now you're back home knowing you've reached the heights and every other girl won't live up to her.

 

I too have a slight hangover from Leicester winning the title. It's always been a dream for me to see Leicester win the title or Champions League but one I never thought I'd live to see. The fact that we reached the heights that we'll probably never live to see again and now everything else seems a little underwhelming. It's hard to get up and feel euphoric about qualifying for the Europa League when you've previously dined at the top table.

 

There is a Chinese curse. "May all your wishes come true".

I think it's more like all the good looking guys were ill at the time and now they've recovered.

[m4DD0gg]

No two ways about it we are going backwards now.

[VLC86]

6 hours ago, StriderHiryu said:

• Deeney Day
• Promotion from the Championship with over 100 points.
• The greatest escape in the history of the Premier league in a season we saw one of Europe's most decorated players wear our shirt and tonked Manchester United 5-3 in a PL classic.
• We won the flipping Premier League by 10 points!
• We got further than any other English team in the Champions League and made the top 8 including a truly special night against Sevilla at the KP.

 

Supporting this club in recent times is a higher high and more addictive than any drug out there. Losing it's appeal? It's never been stronger for me!

 

Plenty of issues to sort out, but what a time to be a Leicester fan!

 

This has probably been posted on the previous 5 pages I haven't read but where do we go from there? It won't ever get better and I would give near enough anything to live it all again.

 

Spurs, Man City, Sunderland, United, Everton, Bruges away, Sevilla home and away. Honestly it will never get better than them.

Edited 31 July 2017 by Costock_Fox

[Clever Fox]

14 minutes ago, m4DD0gg said:

No two ways about it we are going backwards now.

You can't be serious surely, It's called evolution, Football never stands still.

You're probably like the rest of us suffering PTW. (Post title Winners.)

When the kick off comes in a fortnight I'm sure you will be all right.

Edited 31 July 2017 by Clever Fox

[Ted Maul]

There is a part of me which feels a bit bored with the Premier League- it just doesn't feel like football used to. On the other hand, we've achieved more as a club in the last 2 years than we did in the previous 130, and it has been incredible.

 

In a weird way, I'm kind of looking forward to making a return to the second tier, as I'm sure the novelty of being in the top flight will wear off even more. I'd just love for us to win a trophy or two first.

[Voll Blau]

1 hour ago, joachim1965 said:

Anyone who is disenchanted with our football club after just winning the league, quite frankly has no right to support it , just go and support Man Utd instead if you can't stand the reallity of LCFC. Unbelievable....

Good of you to read all the posts about why people feel this way before assuming they're all just mardy cvnts because we didn't win every week this season...

[bovril]

Inevitable really after 15/16. It's like spending a week in the Caribbean with a Victoria's Secret model then coming back to your stay at home fishwife in Swindon.

[DatfoxesKid23]

take some depression meds people and bedsides its football anything can happen we of all people know that

[joachim1965]

1 hour ago, Voll Blau said:

Good of you to read all the posts about why people feel this way before assuming they're all just mardy cvnts because we didn't win every week this season...

I did read the posts and find it incredible that people are moaning. I never in my wildest dreams thought we would ever win the league. Then we made it to the last eight of the champions league. I am happy and content with that as no one can ever take that away. If we never win another thing in my lifetime I will not be disappointed but each to their own.

[Fox92]

26 minutes ago, Ted Maul said:

There is a part of me which feels a bit bored with the Premier League- it just doesn't feel like football used to. On the other hand, we've achieved more as a club in the last 2 years than we did in the previous 130, and it has been incredible.

 

In a weird way, I'm kind of looking forward to making a return to the second tier, as I'm sure the novelty of being in the top flight will wear off even more. I'd just love for us to win a trophy or two first.

This is what I don't get... Why would you want the club to play in a lower division?

 

Have you seen the state of the football in the Championship.

 

The money and branding of the Premier League pisses me off but I wouldn't want us to not be playing in it. It's the highest level we can get.

Edited 31 July 2017 by Fox92

[SystonFox]

6 hours ago, AKCJ said:

My body yearns for more nights like this one.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39248930

 

 

 

I cannot believe I witnessed this with my own eyes and ears. What a time.

[Vestan Pance]

With hindsight lots of things have been done wrong since 2015/16. We've been hoping to cling to some of the magic, but last season it became ever clear we needed a new direction and new enthusiasm, although again we seem to be clinging on to the past success and failing to replace players to move things forward. For me that's where my slight disenchantment comes from. 

[Dan]

I'm not a fan of this image we're trying to portray of ourselves to be honest. It's been going on since the Championship but it's gotten worse. The clappers need to go. Atmosphere isn't even all that anymore and I'd argue for all they've had their uses (though not my cup of tea), they actually prevent atmosphere as well. How often does a song get going before it turns into incessant clapping noise before it's had a chance to spread? It sounds garbage.

 

Yet I think we're stuck with them for the foreseeable future, and even if they went they'd be back for any game deemed big.

 

Previously alluded to in the thread our away support really is awful. I genuinely have never known our away ends to be so consistently quiet.

 

As for the footballing side - I worry we've gone a bit to pot unfortunately. I think our direction has been missing ever since Pearson left. It sounds mental given what happened in 2015/16 but the majority of that squad had been put together by the time he went and our transfer policy ever since has been very questionable. Walsh eventually followed and then you ended up with that shambles last summer.

 

I always felt when it was Pearson, Walsh & Shakespeare that we had a steady ship. It wasn't perfect but we rarely made a bad signing, we never had any notable issues in the dressing room and you felt things were always gradually on the up - the last point crucial. Pearson was like the director of football and manager at the same time. Rudkin never has been one in my eyes - he's there because we needed someone to step in. Look into what Les Reed does at Southampton - that's someone who has turned them into a club who will be safe at this level, with a view to pushing for Europe for years to come. Probably as similar to us as anyone in terms of size of club. They replenish superbly every time they're hit. We just don't and I think a lot of that is on Rudkin.

 

I'd love to be proven wrong but even during 2015/16, I look in hindsight at the most incredible year we'll ever have, and think that fundamentally the wheels were falling off, it just didn't kick in during that year - and thank god.

[Ted Maul]

38 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

This is what I don't get... Why would you want the club to play in a lower division?

 

Have you seen the state of the football in the Championship.

 

The money and branding of the Premier League pisses me off but I wouldn't want us to not be playing in it. It's the highest level we can get.

It's not so much wanting the club to play in a lower division- it's more the grounds we haven't visited for a while, the less sterile atmosphere.

 

For now, I'm enjoying being in the top flight and watching my club prosper. Relegation is fairly inevitable for clubs our size though, and it will happen at some point- hopefully it's later rather than sooner, but there are things I prefer about the championship.

[Guest Col city fan]

16 minutes ago, Dan LCFC said:

I'm not a fan of this image we're trying to portray of ourselves to be honest. It's been going on since the Championship but it's gotten worse. The clappers need to go. Atmosphere isn't even all that anymore and I'd argue for all they've had their uses (though not my cup of tea), they actually prevent atmosphere as well. How often does a song get going before it turns into incessant clapping noise before it's had a chance to spread? It sounds garbage.

 

Yet I think we're stuck with them for the foreseeable future, and even if they went they'd be back for any game deemed big.

 

Previously alluded to in the thread our away support really is awful. I genuinely have never known our away ends to be so consistently quiet.

 

As for the footballing side - I worry we've gone a bit to pot unfortunately. I think our direction has been missing ever since Pearson left. It sounds mental given what happened in 2015/16 but the majority of that squad had been put together by the time he went and our transfer policy ever since has been very questionable. Walsh eventually followed and then you ended up with that shambles last summer.

 

I always felt when it was Pearson, Walsh & Shakespeare that we had a steady ship. It wasn't perfect but we rarely made a bad signing, we never had any notable issues in the dressing room and you felt things were always gradually on the up - the last point crucial. Pearson was like the director of football and manager at the same time. Rudkin never has been one in my eyes - he's there because we needed someone to step in. Look into what Les Reed does at Southampton - that's someone who has turned them into a club who will be safe at this level, with a view to pushing for Europe for years to come. Probably as similar to us as anyone in terms of size of club. They replenish superbly every time they're hit. We just don't and I think a lot of that is on Rudkin.

 

I'd love to be proven wrong but even during 2015/16, I look in hindsight at the most incredible year we'll ever have, and think that fundamentally the wheels were falling off, it just didn't kick in during that year - and thank god.

Great post this one, it really is. I tell you something that's stuck in my mind. During the great escape season, under Pearson, even though I genuinely thought we were going down (just based on points really), there was always that little glimmer of hope in us all, basically because we weren't playing that badly.

Compare this to last season under Ranners..even when we weren't even in the bottom three (let alone bottom!) and I just kinda knew we were going down. There was nothing left. We had no game plan, we had a rubbish team..I thought we were doomed.

Mad thing to say possibly, seeing as we won the league, but I think it'll take some time to actually undo the bad Ranieri did. Again, I think, like we had to when Sven basically just about wrecked the club. I remember that so well due to so many people on here believing Sven was the answer. Even right up until he got sacked.

i know it's a strange thing to say, but I honestly believe Ranieri was taking us to a whole new world of low, having been in a whole new world of high.

Edited 31 July 2017 by Col city fan

[Fox92]

12 minutes ago, Dan LCFC said:

I'm not a fan of this image we're trying to portray of ourselves to be honest. It's been going on since the Championship but it's gotten worse. The clappers need to go. Atmosphere isn't even all that anymore and I'd argue for all they've had their uses (though not my cup of tea), they actually prevent atmosphere as well. How often does a song get going before it turns into incessant clapping noise before it's had a chance to spread? It sounds garbage.

 

Yet I think we're stuck with them for the foreseeable future, and even if they went they'd be back for any game deemed big.

 

Previously alluded to in the thread our away support really is awful. I genuinely have never known our away ends to be so consistently quiet.

 

As for the footballing side - I worry we've gone a bit to pot unfortunately. I think our direction has been missing ever since Pearson left. It sounds mental given what happened in 2015/16 but the majority of that squad had been put together by the time he went and our transfer policy ever since has been very questionable. Walsh eventually followed and then you ended up with that shambles last summer.

 

I always felt when it was Pearson, Walsh & Shakespeare that we had a steady ship. It wasn't perfect but we rarely made a bad signing, we never had any notable issues in the dressing room and you felt things were always gradually on the up - the last point crucial. Pearson was like the director of football and manager at the same time. Rudkin never has been one in my eyes - he's there because we needed someone to step in. Look into what Les Reed does at Southampton - that's someone who has turned them into a club who will be safe at this level, with a view to pushing for Europe for years to come. Probably as similar to us as anyone in terms of size of club. They replenish superbly every time they're hit. We just don't and I think a lot of that is on Rudkin.

 

I'd love to be proven wrong but even during 2015/16, I look in hindsight at the most incredible year we'll ever have, and think that fundamentally the wheels were falling off, it just didn't kick in during that year - and thank god.

Yeah, probably agree with all that.

 

We needed a Pearson-type this summer, in terms of rebuilding again.

[Dan]

4 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

Great post this one, it really is. I tell you something that's stuck in my mind. During the great escape season, under Pearson, even though I genuinely thought we were going down (just based on points really), there was always that little glimmer of hope in us all, basically because we weren't playing that badly.

Compare this to last season under Ranners..even when we weren't even in the bottom three (let alone bottom!) and I just kinda knew we were going down. There was nothing left. We had no game plan, we had a rubbish team..I thought we were doomed.

Mad thing to say possibly, seeing as we won the league, but I think it'll take some time to actually undo the bad Ranieri did. Again, I think, like we had to when Sven basically just about wrecked the club.

i know it's a strange thing to say, but I honestly believe Ranieri was taking us to a whole new world of low, having been in a whole new world of high.

The great escape was so frustrating, after spending so long sticking up for Pearson and feeling that his blueprint was going to yield success, it got that bit harder and harder to defend us that year. We were crap on occasion but we were so unlucky at times too and it wasn't just our fans saying it.

 

We got Fuchs, Okazaki and Huth signed up straight away that summer and I felt so positive about us going forward, Kante came too although we very nearly lost him. I know it's part of the fairytale if you call it that but Ranieri not wanting Kante I find interesting, and his lack of desire to replace him tells me that maybe he never truly understood how important he was.

 

I backed the Shakespeare appointment because I thought he was the closest thing to getting back on those tracks we were on before it all went belly up last summer, although I also respect that at the same time, it could go wrong again simply because it isn't the same structure.

 

I'll get shot down by some for this but if I got offered the Pearson, Shakespeare and Walsh trio back I'd take it in a heartbeat, despite everything.

[m4DD0gg]

1 hour ago, Clever Fox said:

You can't be serious surely, It's called evolution, Football never stands still.

You're probably like the rest of us suffering PTW. (Post title Winners.)

When the kick off comes in a fortnight I'm sure you will be all right.

Yes i believe i do have a bit of PTW and i am gagging for the start of the season. The only negative aspect of winning the league is we have not capitalised on it the way we should have done and is an opportunity missed for me.

[Guest Col city fan]

5 minutes ago, Dan LCFC said:

The great escape was so frustrating, after spending so long sticking up for Pearson and feeling that his blueprint was going to yield success, it got that bit harder and harder to defend us that year. We were crap on occasion but we were so unlucky at times too and it wasn't just our fans saying it.

 

We got Fuchs, Okazaki and Huth signed up straight away that summer and I felt so positive about us going forward, Kante came too although we very nearly lost him. I know it's part of the fairytale if you call it that but Ranieri not wanting Kante I find interesting, and his lack of desire to replace him tells me that maybe he never truly understood how important he was.

 

I backed the Shakespeare appointment because I thought he was the closest thing to getting back on those tracks we were on before it all went belly up last summer, although I also respect that at the same time, it could go wrong again simply because it isn't the same structure.

 

I'll get shot down by some for this but if I got offered the Pearson, Shakespeare and Walsh trio back I'd take it in a heartbeat, despite everything.

So would I now. Make no mistake