Safe standing - time to act

[SemperEadem]

48 minutes ago, Mint23 said:

Sorry if this is a silly question but does safe standing have any effect on seating/standing capacity?  If we were to make the whole of the KP safe standing would it still hold 32,000?

Not with the style id wager they would rather go for which is literally a bar in-front of the existing seats. 
As others have said I don’t think we will ever see it. The decision makers at the club are not interested in it.

[Foxmeister]

50 minutes ago, Mint23 said:

Sorry if this is a silly question but does safe standing have any effect on seating/standing capacity?  If we were to make the whole of the KP safe standing would it still hold 32,000?

Hypothetically I would expect the capacity to increase but it would require major changes to the rows.

[SickoDicko]

 

[SemperEadem]

 

[purpleronnie]

On 06/01/2024 at 10:10, SemperEadem said:

Not with the style id wager they would rather go for which is literally a bar in-front of the existing seats. 
As others have said I don’t think we will ever see it. The decision makers at the club are not interested in it.

Unless the SGSA get involved, they might then, or they might just clampdown on standing instead.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

2 hours ago, SickoDicko said:

 

11/20 current prem teams either with it or having announced plans for it.

 

SGSA really starting to flex their muscle now after the legislation change. No doubt LCFC will be under pressure from them too.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

48 minutes ago, purpleronnie said:

Unless the SGSA get involved, they might then, or they might just clampdown on standing instead.

The former.

Edited 15 January 2024 by Sol thewall Bamba

[RonnieTodger]

We’ll be the first club to have fans sitting in a safe standing area

[GlennyFox55]

41 minutes ago, RonnieTodger said:

We’ll be the first club to have fans sitting in a safe standing area

Thankfully Liverpool and Chelsea beat us to that. 

[SemperEadem]

2 hours ago, SemperEadem said:

 

Its moving closer.

I do wonder though without UFS pushing it with them if they would bother.

[purpleronnie]

4 hours ago, RonnieTodger said:

We’ll be the first club to have fans sitting in a safe standing area

We'll get the smallest safe standing section around if it did ever happen at the KP.

 

[SemperEadem]

1 hour ago, purpleronnie said:

We'll get the smallest safe standing section around if it did ever happen at the KP.

 

If my memory is correct pretty sure the club denied that roadshow a spot outside the ground so had to take it up near Morrisons. 

[Lako42]

11 hours ago, SemperEadem said:

If my memory is correct pretty sure the club denied that roadshow a spot outside the ground so had to take it up near Morrisons. 

Correct, seems like about 15 years ago 

[leicesterseddon]

I’d estimate currently we only have around 1K people standing consistently in front of seats - around 4% of our 29K home end.
 

Probably one of the lowest % among decent-sized clubs in England, from my experience at other grounds.

 

Even in an expanded 37K home end, around 4% standing would be an area less than 1.5k.

Of course, the number of people wanting to stand would increase if the club allowed it in a proper area.

 

But you’d need an overall standing rate of around 12% to fill a stand behind one of the goals - would we do that? 

[Lako42]

The singing section (front to back) is rammed full of standers. 15%of the people there actually sing. 

 

I've lost all interest in safe standing tbh. 

Edited 16 January 2024 by Lako42

[GlennyFox55]

Just now, leicesterseddon said:

I’d estimate currently we only have around 1K people standing consistently in front of seats - around 4% of our 29K home end.
 

Probably one of the lowest % among decent-sized clubs in England, from my experience at other grounds.

 

Even in an expanded 37K home end, around 4% standing would be an area less than 1.5k.

Of course, the number of people wanting to stand would increase if the club allowed it in a proper area.

 

But you’d need an overall standing rate of around 12% to fill a stand behind one of the goals - would we do that? 

There’s 650 in the singing section that stand I believe plus more scattered across the back rows of the rest of the kop.

 

There must be around 800/900 that stand in L1/K1/J3 plus a healthy number that stand in P block most games now.

 

I’d say it’s around 2k in total just a bit scattered about. 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

17 minutes ago, leicesterseddon said:

I’d estimate currently we only have around 1K people standing consistently in front of seats - around 4% of our 29K home end.
 

Probably one of the lowest % among decent-sized clubs in England, from my experience at other grounds.

 

Even in an expanded 37K home end, around 4% standing would be an area less than 1.5k.

Of course, the number of people wanting to stand would increase if the club allowed it in a proper area.

 

But you’d need an overall standing rate of around 12% to fill a stand behind one of the goals - would we do that? 

Not happening.

[Stadt]

It's monkey see, monkey do with standing - people just go with the crowd, what percentage of an away end want to sit but stand, 10, 20%?

 

Plus our ground has very little segmentation to it, there's lots of current sitters who'd prefer to stand but it's just not possible where they are. For whatever reason they just haven't moved to a standing area, open up an area as a designated standing area and people would move into it, that'd involve some proactivity from the club though.

Edited 16 January 2024 by Stadt

[GlennyFox55]

 

[purpleronnie]

1 minute ago, GlennyFox55 said:

 

I like this idea more, creating one large home end, with safe standing, if this happened I do believe it would make a difference.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

1 hour ago, GlennyFox55 said:

 

Well that's come out of nowhere.

[lee7]

2 hours ago, GlennyFox55 said:

 

Interesting to read that Russell Martin and the team support the changes. 

I think if any manager was ever going to have an impact on our atmosphere then Enzo is the guy. 

He regularly states that they need the fans support. 

 

[purpleronnie]

2 minutes ago, lee7 said:

Interesting to read that Russell Martin and the team support the changes. 

I think if any manager was ever going to have an impact on our atmosphere then Enzo is the guy. 

He regularly states that they need the fans support. 

 

Players and managers always will support these ideas but it has to start with the fans pushing for change and the club listening and willing to act upon those wishes.

[Tommy G]

19 hours ago, purpleronnie said:

We'll get the smallest safe standing section around if it did ever happen at the KP.

 

Should be big enough to accomodate the entirety of UFS no?

 

Tongue in cheek before anyone head falls off!

 

 

[bmt]

5 hours ago, leicesterseddon said:

I’d estimate currently we only have around 1K people standing consistently in front of seats - around 4% of our 29K home end.
 

Probably one of the lowest % among decent-sized clubs in England, from my experience at other grounds.

 

Even in an expanded 37K home end, around 4% standing would be an area less than 1.5k.

Of course, the number of people wanting to stand would increase if the club allowed it in a proper area.

 

But you’d need an overall standing rate of around 12% to fill a stand behind one of the goals - would we do that? 

Think this is a bit of a vicious cycle thing. Both places I've had a season ticket I would have liked to stand but we are just too far away from the persistent standers to do it without blocking the old boys behind us