Should we be playing an injured Vardy?

[Kitchandro]

3 hours ago, Col city fan said:

Being a Premiership club and having spent what we've spent on strikers, it is absolutely fookin ridiculous that we should be playing an injured Vardy and ridiculous that anyone thinks we should do.

It reflects the current state of the club...and of the forum.

Yeh the more I think about it the more silly this thread is.

 

A half fit Vardy isn't still the best player have. That's like people saying an off form Mahrez is better than any of our other midfielders. It's nonsense. You have to be at 100% or at least close to it in this league.

 

Vardy is capable of bad games and if he's not fully at it he won't get into the game, it's his 100 mile an hour intensity which makes him the player he is.

 

I'm not yet willing to accept we bought Iheanacho and he can't lead our line. We bought him for the price tag of a top striker, let's give him a chance to be one.

 

 

[Johnthefoxrayner]

3 hours ago, Col city fan said:

Being a Premiership club and having spent what we've spent on strikers, it is absolutely fookin ridiculous that we should be playing an injured Vardy and ridiculous that anyone thinks we should do.

It reflects the current state of the club...and of the forum.

Totally agree with you. 

[Dickov22]

Yes we should. He's our best player and the injury doesn't seem to be hampering him at all. Been on great form so far this season. 

[ZeGuy]

2 hours ago, mozartfox said:

It is more a case of 'bad recruitment' that is going to cost us dearly at the end of the day, not an injury to Vardy.

The recruitement this summer has been just fine, except for the Silva story.  The 4-4-2 is not a long term solution unless you have have a world class DM. Hoofing the ball ain't either.

[nnfox]

17 minutes ago, Kitchandro said:

It was great a couple of years ago because we did it a couple of years ago.

 

We're not doing it now, that's why it isn't working

 

Where's this myth come from that we're playing as we did 2 years ago? We're not, that's the problem.

But we are clearly trying to.  We play exactly the same formation and with as many of that title winning team as possible.  The only difference between that team and the current crop is Maguire in for the injured Huth.  Ndidi in for Kante (who left) and now King/James/Iborra/Silva/Whoever in for Drinkwater (who has also left).  Show me one of our title winning regulars that have been dropped to the bench and replaced by any new signing.  No?  That's because there aren't any.  £27m Slimani - Bench, £25m Iheanacho - Bench, £16m Musa - Bench, £15m Iborra - Bench.  Are people seriously saying that these players are not good enough to play in the Premier League for Leicester City?  Or are we just too scared to try anything different?

[Tuna]

If he's not considered fit for England, we shouldn't be taking the risk.

 

Honestly, we spent nearly 60 million quid on Slim and Nacho, they are more than capable.

 

Obviously we want Vardy to play if possible but we can't afford to aggravate an injury. Give him a fortnight off and he'll be ready for West Brom.

[dynamark]

Isnt this possibly a bit of lets keep our player rather than him spending days with an england squad where he may get a few minutes on pitch.at best .Good for me

We can mange the situation give the treatment and England can get on with what England do.

[Guest Col city fan]

2 hours ago, ZeGuy said:

The recruitement this summer has been just fine, except for the Silva story.  The 4-4-2 is not a long term solution unless you have have a world class DM. Hoofing the ball ain't either.

How do we know if the 'recruitment' has been any good when the new lads hardly ever bloody play?

Iheanacho was bought for good money. If he can't be expected to step up and step in for our regular striker, who's injured, it's a sorry tale!

[ZeGuy]

7 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

How do we know if the 'recruitment' has been any good when the new lads hardly ever bloody play?

Iheanacho was bought for good money. If he can't be expected to step up and step in for our regular striker, who's injured, it's a sorry tale!

If I compare it to the last summer, it's bloody fine. Iborra certainly needs to adapt to the PL but he's no Amartey. Maguire is one of the better signings and I certainly don't want to see the Huth Morgan pair again, Nacho looks promising as long as we don't expect from him to win flicks and keep the ball on the ground. Only Silva's signing went south, which is ironic as he was meant for the most crucial position in our team.

Now if we signed these guys with the intention of shoehorning them in a 4-4-2 system, then the recruitment was bloody crap.

 

[SkidsFox]

If we rest Vardy for this game I wouldn't put it past bloody Southgate to play him in the internationals.

So long as he's sharp I'd play him in the starting 11 against Bournemouth, which is a must-compete type of game. If we go two or three goals up (unlikely I know, but sometimes things CAN go our way), then we can substitute him.

 

[Guest Col city fan]

6 minutes ago, ZeGuy said:

If I compare it to the last summer, it's bloody fine. Iborra certainly needs to adapt to the PL but he's no Amartey. Maguire is one of the better signings and I certainly don't want to see the Huth Morgan pair again, Nacho looks promising as long as we don't expect from him to win flicks and keep the ball on the ground. Only Silva's signing went south, which is ironic as he was meant for the most crucial position in our team.

Now if we signed these guys with the intention of shoehorning them in a 4-4-2 system, then the recruitment was bloody crap.

 

I'm coming more and the more to the conclusion that it's not the signings who are crap, it's the club at the moment.

God knows what we are doing to Wilf Ndidi for instance. I don't want to see Maguire and Kelechi go in the same way.

As much as I like Shakey, I'm wondering if it's time to get shut of Rudkin, Shakey and any of the old guard who are left.

And start over, with some fresh ideas.

I guess we'll see

[Legend_in_blue]

He's the most important player at the club because of how we play.

 

That statement in itself is worrying.

 

We're a one man team.

[ZeGuy]

7 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

I'm coming more and the more to the conclusion that it's not the signings who are crap, it's the club at the moment.

God knows what we are doing to Wilf Ndidi for instance. I don't want to see Maguire and Kelechi go in the same way.

As much as I like Shakey, I'm wondering if it's time to get shut of Rudkin, Shakey and any of the old guard who are left.

And start over, with some fresh ideas.

I guess we'll see

I have no definitive position about Shakey and the old guard for two reasons: the first fixtures and Silva. I don't know if Shakey is just keeping this system because it's the lesser evil and the others really, really don't work or because the players want it. Still some of his line-ups, subs and tactics definitely made me raise an eyebrow. My personal count-down starts from today. I'd give him 5-6 games to see how his plan actually looks like.

[Guest Col city fan]

Just now, ZeGuy said:

I have no definitive position about Shakey and the old guard for two reasons: the first fixtures and Silva. I don't know if Shakey is just keeping this system because it's the less evil and the others really, really don't work and/or because the players want it. Still some of his line-ups, subs and tactics definitely made me raise an eyebrow. My personal count-down starts from today. I'd give him 5-6 games to see how his plan actually looks like.

Yep that's fair. I've said as much before. The season really starts today in terms of us having much clue if we're gonna be ok or not

[Tuna]

23 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

I'm coming more and the more to the conclusion that it's not the signings who are crap, it's the club at the moment.

God knows what we are doing to Wilf Ndidi for instance. I don't want to see Maguire and Kelechi go in the same way.

As much as I like Shakey, I'm wondering if it's time to get shut of Rudkin, Shakey and any of the old guard who are left.

And start over, with some fresh ideas.

I guess we'll see

I think the club is definitely in need of a total rebranding as a football club, and that only really happens with a change of manager, approach and philosophy. Silva would have been the ideal appointment for us in the summer.

 

The players are all here, everything we need to be successful - particularly with Silva in the mix - but It's things like the structure of the football club , IE Rudkin, even Shakespeare that is holding us back IMO.

 

Should we sack Shakespeare, you just know we'll probably go after Guus Hiddink again - look at the recent history - we've gone for Sven, Ranieri and at least twice Guus Hiddink, even Roy ****ing Hodgson - all managers who fit the same profile "safe", experienced, unlikely to cause any trouble. With Rudkin at the forefront of the recruitment process, I can't see how we can be successful. Even Ranieri, we seemed to just stumble upon him after spending 2 weeks fawning over an uniterested Guus Hiddink. 

 

 

[Captain...]

He plays this game, it is a vital game we need to win. Then we rest him up and spend the next 2 weeks working on a formation built around Nacho. A formation that works without him (but can also work with him when he's back).

[Gin-fox]

I don't want vards getting hurt but I really don't see us having an attacking outlet without him...

[foxy boxing]

What they are saying is even a injured or unfit Vardy is better than Slimani or Musa! and is absolutely vital to the team

[Gin-fox]

4 minutes ago, foxy boxing said:

What they are saying is even a injured or unfit Vardy is better than Slimani or Musa! and is absolutely vital to the team

Yes. To all this

[Guest Col city fan]

26 minutes ago, Gin-fox said:

I don't want vards getting hurt but I really don't see us having an attacking outlet without him...

So what the fook have we spent over 60 million quid on?

This is laughable...

[lgfualol]

Thank god he didn't leave. We still try to play like Kante is here, so it would be the same with Vardy

[Gin-fox]

11 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

So what the fook have we spent over 60 million quid on?

This is laughable...

Idk!!! Ask Shakespeare coz he is in the starting 11

 

[Clever Fox]

6 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

So what the fook have we spent over 60 million quid on?

This is laughable...

Quite right it is laughable. We have 55 millions pounds worth of Strikers on the Bench and were playing an injured players. The evidence shows that players who take injections to get through games end up doing more harm than good.I've seen players rightly refuse injections in the past for that very reason.

Are we seriously saying that Slimani or Kelechi couldn't lead the line against Bournemouth and do a good job.

 

These are the type of decisions where Shakey shows his lack of experience.

[Guest Col city fan]

9 minutes ago, Clever Fox said:

Quite right it is laughable. We have 55 millions pounds worth of Strikers on the Bench and were playing an injured players. The evidence shows that players who take injections to get through games end up doing more harm than good.I've seen players rightly refuse injections in the past for that very reason.

Are we seriously saying that Slimani or Kelechi couldn't lead the line against Bournemouth and do a good job.

 

These are the type of decisions where Shakey shows his lack of experience.

It's bloody barmy. If Vardy isn't fully fit why play him? Why have a squad?

It's not like we'd be resting Phil Gee for Bobby Davison..

These are Slimani at 30 mill and Iheanacho at 25!

 

 

[volpeazzurro]

Fielding an injured Vardy despite having ample other strikers to allow him to recover, playing King again in a 442 instead of Iborra or a midfield 3, all screams of Shakespeare clinging on to his managerial future like a drowning man. If Vardy, pumped up with painkillers pulls up with an aggravated injury then Shakespeare personally needs to be held responsible and sacked on the spot. At the very least Vardy should be on the bench and see how we get on.

 

Even without Vardy , Shakespeare with all the talent he has available to him should be able to play a team and formation capable of beating Bournemouth without any disrespect to them. How excited were we to be in the running for Iheanacho! Surely he can't still be unfit? Iborra, a treble cup winning midfielder from Seville who is having to change what he probably does best in a 3 to accommodate Shakespeares obsession,  why buy him, why not buy the player you need to fit in?  Ndidi has regressed under Shakespeare. All in all its a mess even if we scrape a win.