unrest in the squad

[DatfoxesKid23]

the players have given up simple

if they are downing tools on purpose to get rod od puel I'll go to belvoir drive and sort them out myself

Edited 10 April 2018 by DatfoxesKid23

[sacreblueits442]

6 hours ago, Nigel Graham Pearson said:

I really doubt Mahrez is one of the upset players. He doesn’t seem to be a part of the central clique (if it is a clique). Further, he’s been much better under Puel, and is too talented to have an affinity for the ol’ sit back, hoof and run like mad approach. 

......he is also not producing!!

 He appears to be going through the motions. He has taken to roving about the pitch going deeper and deeper. I think it is time Puel drop him and play Diabate on the right in Mahrez's position. We are six points behind Burnley and I can not see them dropping many points to the end of the season, we seem to have no appetite for getting 7th so we might as well change it up to the end of season.

[foxinsocks]

Facts

We are not creating chances and this pisses us all off

The days of posession football are over.

Puel shows poor leadership by not setting out his vision and being honest in interviews to reassure everyone that he is prioritising the right issues to sort.

 

Where is he taking us and do we want to go there? 

 

i think the owners will let him go in june

 

Edited 10 April 2018 by foxinsocks

[Guest Col city fan]

9 hours ago, Kitchandro said:

I did tell you this would happen. It's a theme with this squad. The tactics have been consistently terrible since May 2016 and the only thing that has made the difference between good and poor form has been whether the players are up for it or not.

 

It's the same reason we did well in the Champions League, have generally raised our game against the bigger sides, and also why we have had improved results under the last 2 managers before tailing off again.

 

I don't really have any sympathy with Puel on this occassion. Everyone should be pissed off with the sort of football we're playing.

 

But it just proves that we are too quick to paper over the cracks without actually analysing the way we are playing. The players were always going to stop believing in this pedestrian style, just like they did with Ranieri and Shakespeare when they failed to stick to the way we need to be playing, the only way of playing that has actually brought us any success.

I’ve taken a number of years to perfect the art of being a ‘know-it-all’ and here you are trying to steal my mantle with your ‘I did tell you’ scenario!

 

[AjcW]

I’m certainly not going to be negative towards Puel yet as he needs time to buy his own players.

 

However you can see player power is working it’s magic again for sure, you only have to look at the fact Morgan is back In the team despite Dragovic being faultless to see that. 

 

I know Kasper is a lot of people’s favourite but to be honest he’s done my head in since Claudio’s demise, mistake after mistake followed by arrogant interview after arrogant interview. He should like at people like Cech who come out and admit their mistakes and are generally a little bit more humble! 

 

As a poster in the thread said early on, the players are going to be questioned sooner rather than later and that’s when managers start looking at us and thinking ‘I don’t want to work there’ 

[RumbleFox]

39 minutes ago, foxinsocks said:

Facts

We are not creating chances and this pisses us all off

The days of posession football are over.

Puel shows poor leadership by not setting out his vision and being honest in interviews to reassure everyone that he is prioritising the right issues to sort.

 

Where is he taking us and do we want to go there? 

 

i think the owners will let him go in june

 

[AlloverthefloorYesNdidi]

Really sick of hearing about unrest. F**k the lot of them if there is any truth in it.  Although, tis only rumour, so pinch of salt

 

They have failed in all kinds of systems and starting line ups  no reason to get upset at any managerial decision

 

Need to back the manager until there is a real problem.   There isnt yet.  We have never looked as hopeless as we were under Ranieri's second season (although in his defence that would be a tough season for anyone), and Shakespeare brought nothing to the table.

I think people are forgetting just how bad we've been post title, pre-Puel

 

Newcastle at the weekend really felt like it killed the season for me.  Need to beat Burnley; draw or lose and thats final nail in the coffin.

 

Absolutely have to give Puel the reins for the summer and onwards, give him a proper chance

 

Edited 10 April 2018 by AlloverthefloorYesNdidi

[foxinsocks]

7 minutes ago, AlloverthefloorYesNdidi said:

....

 

Absolutely have to give Puel the reins for the summer and onwards, give him a proper chance

 

Think of his work todate as a probationary period 

If you were his employer then has he set a direction with a verve that takes us to a new level?.  Do you give him the keys to the war chest?

Yes we are better than post premiership.... but where are we going.

I like peul...but he is unwhelming 

[AlloverthefloorYesNdidi]

2 minutes ago, foxinsocks said:

Think of his work todate as a probationary period 

If you were his employer then has he set a direction with a verve that takes us to a new level?.  Do you give him the keys to the war chest?

Yes we are better than post premiership.... but where are we going.

I like peul...but he is unwhelming 

Tbf, the performance at the weekend really did raise some question marks for me and I have been closer to understanding people who want to get rid of him after that

 

But, we have seen some positive things with Puel and I think given the right players and a good reshuffle it would be interesting to see where he could take us.  Imagine if we get a few apt transfers done and start playing some of the good football we've played under him on a consistent basis.

 

Also i'm reluctant to want to sack someone again so soon.  Cant just keep sacking people, I just dont believe it will do us any good in the long run, and he's not exactly crashing and burning here

 

If we did get someone else in they'd have to be f***ing good to justify sacking Puel.  Would anyone that good come?  We struggled last summer didnt we?  And how good would we have to be in the first half of the season to stop the knives coming out again?

[ZeGuy]

6 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said:

......he is also not producing!!

 He appears to be going through the motions. He has taken to roving about the pitch going deeper and deeper. I think it is time Puel drop him and play Diabate on the right in Mahrez's position. We are six points behind Burnley and I can not see them dropping many points to the end of the season, we seem to have no appetite for getting 7th so we might as well change it up to the end of season.

You'd drop your best player just because he had two bad games? Lol, by this logic drop the whole team then and play the U21.

[Monsell1976]

6 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said:

......he is also not producing!!

 He appears to be going through the motions. He has taken to roving about the pitch going deeper and deeper. I think it is time Puel drop him and play Diabate on the right in Mahrez's position. We are six points behind Burnley and I can not see them dropping many points to the end of the season, we seem to have no appetite for getting 7th so we might as well change it up to the end of season.

Not saying he’s playing great, but it’s hard to do it on your own when your team mates are going through the motions.

 

 To say he’s not producing is a little unfair, him and vardy have produced when we have been crap, West Brom, Bournemouth just to name a couple.

 

 I wouldn’t drop mahrez for anyone we currently have, not good enough.

 If you want to look at players not producing look at Okazaki, albrighton, Morgan to name a few, shall we should drop them

[brucey]

Mahrez was in excellent form pre and post strike, it was international duty that ruined his form.

[Matt]

1 hour ago, AjcW said:

I’m certainly not going to be negative towards Puel yet as he needs time to buy his own players.

 

However you can see player power is working it’s magic again for sure, you only have to look at the fact Morgan is back In the team despite Dragovic being faultless to see that. 

 

I know Kasper is a lot of people’s favourite but to be honest he’s done my head in since Claudio’s demise, mistake after mistake followed by arrogant interview after arrogant interview. He should like at people like Cech who come out and admit their mistakes and are generally a little bit more humble! 

 

As a poster in the thread said early on, the players are going to be questioned sooner rather than later and that’s when managers start looking at us and thinking ‘I don’t want to work there’ 

You can not argue against any of that, however if it’s the case shouldn’t we be questioning Puel? Why hasn’t he had the bollocks to stand up to Morgan? Kasper - ok there’s no real alternative.

 

But all I can say is why doesn’t Puel grow some bollocks, tell some home truths and bring some discipline. 

 

You could argue he’d “lose the players” well I don’t think he’s doing a very good job of winning players (or fans) over as it is so what has he got to lose.

 

You can argue player power is winning but he’s letting them win.

 

You have to question that, him and his authority.

Edited 10 April 2018 by Matt

[Guest]

24 minutes ago, ZeGuy said:

You'd drop your best player just because he had two bad games? Lol, by this logic drop the whole team then and play the U21.

 

He isn't our best player.

 

He has had many more than 2 poor games this season and if he had 2 good games last season that was it.

 

He wants to leave and his play is showing he just isn't intetrested in doing the work a footballer needs to do on the pitch. Sure, if he's passed the ball and he can be bothered he'll run at the defence until he loses it - though recently the pass back / sideways has been his go to play. Why play a player who doesn't want to be here and won't be here after the next few games. Time for Diabaté to get some experience so he learns a little before next season when he takes over. Your need to keep playing (and defending) a player who no longer cares is confusing.

[foxinsocks]

1 hour ago, AlloverthefloorYesNdidi said:

Tbf, the performance at the weekend really did raise some question marks for me and I have been closer to understanding people who want to get rid of him after that

 

But, we have seen some positive things with Puel and I think given the right players and a good reshuffle it would be interesting to see where he could take us.  Imagine if we get a few apt transfers done and start playing some of the good football we've played under him on a consistent basis.

 

Also i'm reluctant to want to sack someone again so soon.  Cant just keep sacking people, I just dont believe it will do us any good in the long run, and he's not exactly crashing and burning here

 

If we did get someone else in they'd have to be f***ing good to justify sacking Puel.  Would anyone that good come?  We struggled last summer didnt we?  And how good would we have to be in the first half of the season to stop the knives coming out again?

I too am uncomfortable with sacking so soon.  But we had to hire him at a time when there was littke choice.  Il

If your wife left and you had to immediately chose a replacement from the women available there and then you might not have time to find the right one and entice her awayfrom her current husband...  this metaphor has gone too far but you know what i mean.

 

That said it would be surprising if he is our forever lover.    marry in haste...

 

If he has not got the right vision and leadership. .. the sign up to match.com asap 

[jayfox26]

I can see it from both sides really. If this is true then questions have got to be asked of the players as this is the same thing that happened with Claudio. The player power (probably from the old guard) is something that may need addressing but at the same time, I'm not sure id be happy playing under Puel either. It's easy to say just get on with your job which you are getting paid a shit load for, but for most players it's not just about the money it's about reputation and international chances etc. We have been playing some horrible football recently and I can see why the players wouldn't be happy with it. Vardy and Mahrez like quick attacking football, Puel likes slow sideways and backwards football. Fortunately our internationals shouldn't have any issues going to the world cup like Vardy and Maguire as let's be honest, we don't have a lot of options but my point is, if as a player you know you're not playing to 100% of your ability and you believe this is happening due to the tactics being used by the manager, then I can see why players would be unhappy. But at the same time, the loyalty to the title winning players needs to be a thing of the past. Morgan should never have replaced Drago when he returned from injury. While some of the title winning season can still play a big part next season (Vardy, Albrighton, kasper if he sorts his head out and maybe a couple of others) there are still a few that need moving on in order for us to progress. Is Puel the man to overhaul our squad and bring in the right players to replace them? I'm not sure. Is there anybody out there that would come to us that is the right man for the job? Possibly but I can't think of any off the top of my head 

[AlloverthefloorYesNdidi]

49 minutes ago, foxinsocks said:

I too am uncomfortable with sacking so soon.  But we had to hire him at a time when there was littke choice.  Il

If your wife left and you had to immediately chose a replacement from the women available there and then you might not have time to find the right one and entice her awayfrom her current husband...  this metaphor has gone too far but you know what i mean.

 

That said it would be surprising if he is our forever lover.    marry in haste...

 

If he has not got the right vision and leadership. .. the sign up to match.com asap 

Here I think i'm supposed to make a joke along the lines of, Rudkin already uses match.com for transfers.  Then this emoticon - 

 

Text book FT

[brucey]

1 hour ago, foxinsocks said:

I too am uncomfortable with sacking so soon.  But we had to hire him at a time when there was littke choice.  Il

If your wife left and you had to immediately chose a replacement from the women available there and then you might not have time to find the right one and entice her awayfrom her current husband...  this metaphor has gone too far but you know what i mean.

 

That said it would be surprising if he is our forever lover.    marry in haste...

 

If he has not got the right vision and leadership. .. the sign up to match.com asap 

But our first wife didn't leave us. We cruelly divorced her after just a few months of marriage because when we went through a slightly difficult period, we were upset that it wasn't as nice as on our honeymoon. The kids were upset but tried to get along with the new wife, initially it worked but they're starting to hate her now. Meanwhile your ex wife found a new husband, but he is just as bad and wants to divorce her too. You look at your rebellious kids and wonder, maybe you divorced her too soon? But your pride would be hurt if you tried to make up with her, so you try to find someone new. But the good ones are all taken. So what do you do? 

[Donut]

4 minutes ago, brucey said:

But our first wife didn't leave us. We cruelly divorced her after just a few months of marriage because when we went through a slightly difficult period, we were upset that it wasn't as nice as on our honeymoon. The kids were upset but tried to get along with the new wife, initially it worked but they're starting to hate her now. Meanwhile your ex wife found a new husband, but he is just as bad and wants to divorce her too. You look at your rebellious kids and wonder, maybe you divorced her too soon? But your pride would be hurt if you tried to make up with her, so you try to find someone new. But the good ones are all taken. So what do you do? 

You give Puel the time he needs.

[AlloverthefloorYesNdidi]

9 minutes ago, brucey said:

But our first wife didn't leave us. We cruelly divorced her after just a few months of marriage because when we went through a slightly difficult period, we were upset that it wasn't as nice as on our honeymoon. The kids were upset but tried to get along with the new wife, initially it worked but they're starting to hate her now. Meanwhile your ex wife found a new husband, but he is just as bad and wants to divorce her too. You look at your rebellious kids and wonder, maybe you divorced her too soon? But your pride would be hurt if you tried to make up with her, so you try to find someone new. But the good ones are all taken. So what do you do? 

Cant we just do a Musa and have multiple wives?

[EnglishOxide]

Give Puel time and the summer.

 

Hopefully as August comes we've got Ben Arfa, Thorgan Hazard and a few more quality signings to compliment our squad and play how Puel wants us to.

 

Mahrez, King, James and Huth can be moved on.

 

Fuchs, Simpson, Morgan, Okazaki and maybe Schmeichel will be relegated to backup options.

[Nick]

11 minutes ago, EnglishOxide said:

Give Puel time and the summer.

 

Hopefully as August comes we've got Ben Arfa, Thorgan Hazard and a few more quality signings to compliment our squad and play how Puel wants us to.

 

Mahrez, King, James and Huth can be moved on.

 

Fuchs, Simpson, Morgan, Okazaki and maybe Schmeichel will be relegated to backup options.

Schmeichel won’t be our back up or 2nd Keeper probably ever. He will move long before he plays second fiddle to anybody. He’s far more likely to be our Captain though I do wonder if that will go to Harry next season.

[foxinsocks]

28 minutes ago, brucey said:

But our first wife didn't leave us. We cruelly divorced her after just a few months of marriage because when we went through a slightly difficult period, we were upset that it wasn't as nice as on our honeymoon. The kids were upset but tried to get along with the new wife, initially it worked but they're starting to hate her now. Meanwhile your ex wife found a new husband, but he is just as bad and wants to divorce her too. You look at your rebellious kids and wonder, maybe you divorced her too soon? But your pride would be hurt if you tried to make up with her, so you try to find someone new. But the good ones are all taken. So what do you do? 

But we only went with our first wife coz many of our friends on ft liked his sister (nigella) and clamoured for us to marry.  This was too hasty and the friends on ft called for us to dump her when the difficult patch came along.

So we've all made so many mistakes. .. but i dont want to turn the clock back.  

It shows how following the advice of fickle friends can be a problem.  We should all make up our own minds and not live our lives for others.  Divorce rates are sky high coz no one puts up with ant sh1t and we all have big expectations and want a partner who will take us to heaven.

What to do...dont stay in a loveless marriage with a wife we cant respect. .. get out there and sleep with the wives of others

We dont have to stick with the last girl at the disco

Edited 10 April 2018 by foxinsocks

[Lovejoy]

3 hours ago, foxinsocks said:

Think of his work todate as a probationary period 

If you were his employer then has he set a direction with a verve that takes us to a new level?.  Do you give him the keys to the war chest?

Yes we are better than post premiership.... but where are we going.

I like peul...but he is unwhelming 

I know a lot of people hate the "European way", but this is why teams employ a Director of Football and scouting department. If we do things properly, Puel will have final say on signings but won't be the man bringing them in.

 

The club and Puel need to be pulling in the same direction in terms of where we go. If there is a clear blueprint, it should also make it easier to dispense of Puel if needs be early next season and bring in a replacement.

[EnglishOxide]

9 minutes ago, Swan Lesta said:

Schmeichel won’t be our back up or 2nd Keeper probably ever. He will move long before he plays second fiddle to anybody. He’s far more likely to be our Captain though I do wonder if that will go to Harry next season.

 

He will do as he's told if Puel thinks he's got an improvement. I can't see him being number 1 at any club above our position after the below par season he has had with us so it's either accept competition or lower your level.