England v Nigeria

[RowlattsFox]

Hopefully Vardy not coming on means he’ll start on Thursday,  alongside Kane. If he’s going to play 2 out and out strikers at all it will be against Panama so ideal game to try it against Costa Rica. 

 

I was told Vardy was at a wedding in Preston on Friday night for one of his old Fleetwood teammates, Nathan Pond. Might explain him not featuring yesterday. 

[WigstonWanderer]

How stupid must Sterling be to dive so blatantly with VAR in operation?

 

Walker is being wasted at RCB IMHO.

[davieG]

Went to this foolishly expecting to see a decent amount of some of our players and a half decent game.

 

Idiot!

[Max Wall]

15 hours ago, lee7 said:

That second half performance is exactly why we will not progress far in this World Cup. 

First half was pretty good, we moved the ball fast having one/two touches along with lots of movement. Second half was the total opposite. 

I've seen decades of England teams looking decent until they concede and then going to pieces. It's not a new phenomenon by any means. It's happened countless times before.

Whilst it is a pretty pessimistic view, I believe the game that causes us to exit the World Cup may well be a thrashing.

Whether that thrashing comes against Tunisia, Belgium, Colombia, Poland or Germany, I'm unsure.

[Dave Fishwick]

1 hour ago, davieG said:

Went to this foolishly expecting to see a decent amount of some of our players and a half decent game.

 

Idiot!

same here. Even wore my Leicester shirt! Thought they needed Ndidi

[Dave Fishwick]

Disappointed that Vardy didn't get on in front of Welbeck too

 

I wonder if the no starters and few subs was because of our poor end to the season?

[WigstonWanderer]

11 minutes ago, Dave Fishwick said:

Disappointed that Vardy didn't get on in front of Welbeck too

 

I wonder if the no starters and few subs was because of our poor end to the season?

I seem to remember Southgate present during some pretty poor performances but can’t remember specifics 

[StanSP]

13 minutes ago, Dave Fishwick said:

Disappointed that Vardy didn't get on in front of Welbeck too

 

I wonder if the no starters and few subs was because of our poor end to the season?

Maguire had a knock and hadn't trained for a few days during the week.

Apparently Vardy was allowed to go to Nathan Pond's (Fleetwood) wedding on Friday. Probably got pissed up and was told he wasn't going to play tbh.

[lcfc sheff]

Vardy will start next game,

hes 2nd to Kane no need to panic.

[Jattdogg]

I missed this but sterling was 1 day late for training.  Still starts annndddd southgate has said postgame he might stick with the same lineup for first game. 

 

Guy should be dropped for that dive alone. Embarassing.

[Marutimon]

On 02/06/2018 at 18:23, StanSP said:

Nigerian family so Nigeria fans getting a bit butthurt that he didn't choose them.

It has more to do with the perception by Nigerians that Alli disrespected his parents. They haven't booed other players of Nigerian origin over the years.

 

EDIT: Dele Alli may have also been booed because he didn't play the ball out of play, when two Nigerian players were out after clashing there heads. That lead to a freekick, which lead to a corner, which lead to Cahill's goal.

Edited 3 June 2018 by Marutimon

[TiffToff88]

14 hours ago, Jattdogg said:

I missed this but sterling was 1 day late for training.  Still starts annndddd southgate has said postgame he might stick with the same lineup for first game. 

 

Guy should be dropped for that dive alone. Embarassing.

Agreed. At least when Vardy dives he's much more convincing...

[Jattdogg]

1 hour ago, TiffToff88 said:

Agreed. At least when Vardy dives he's much more convincing...

And thats exactly what i mean

[lildave3]

15 hours ago, Marutimon said:

It has more to do with the perception by Nigerians that Alli disrespected his parents. They haven't booed other players of Nigerian origin over the years.

 

EDIT: Dele Alli may have also been booed because he didn't play the ball out of play, when two Nigerian players were out after clashing there heads. That lead to a freekick, which lead to a corner, which lead to Cahill's goal.

 

He was booed after about 30 seconds, nothing to do with anything he did during the match.

[Marutimon]

1 hour ago, lildave3 said:

He was booed after about 30 seconds, nothing to do with anything he did during the match.

OK, than most likely the booing has to do with this:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/dele-allis-estranged-parents-issue-9918748

 

Playing for England ahead of Nigeria wouldn't be cause enough for the booing, but disrespecting your parents is a big no-no in Nigerian culture.

[RumbleFox]

I must admit since Euro '96 I haven't really seen an England team to stir the emotions.  It has been so frustrating to watch a succession of managers pick the same old tried and failed players over and over again from the big clubs only to see each tournament end in disappointment.  I actually like Southgate, he seems a genuinely decent guy and he has made all the right noises since he jtook over and has certainly blooded some younger/less experienced players but I do have a nagging worry that come the first games we will see a team lacking imagination and risk (Cahill for Maguire for example) and end up limping out of another tournament.  I really hope I am wrong and he sticks to his guns and plays a younger, more exciting team but we'll see.  I want and England team to love again.

 

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Edited 4 June 2018 by RumbleFox

[Nick]

1 hour ago, RumbleFox said:

I must admit since Euro '96 I haven't really seen an England team to stir the emotions.  It has been so frustrating to watch a succession of managers pick the same old tried and failed players over and over again from the big clubs only to see each tournament end in disappointment.  I actually like Southgate, he seems a genuinely decent guy and he has made all the right noises since he jtook over and has certainly blooded some younger/less experienced players but I do have a nagging worry that come the first games we will see a team lacking imagination and risk (Cahill for Maguire for example) and end up limping out of another tournament.  I really hope I am wrong and he sticks to his guns and plays a younger, more exciting team but we'll see.  I want and England team to love again.

 

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To ever find that love gain we need to change the FA blueprint of football being taught through the national sides at all age groups - worst brand of football going producing the worst kind of results.

[Bryn]

11 minutes ago, Swan Lesta said:

To ever find that love gain we need to change the FA blueprint of football being taught through the national sides at all age groups - worst brand of football going producing the worst kind of results.

They did this several years ago and have won two youth world cups in the last year. 

[Nick]

Just now, Bryn said:

They did this several years ago and have won two youth world cups in the last year. 

Well everything's fine then. This dross we've being watching the senior team churn out for the last six tournaments must be the optimum blueprint.

 

[RumbleFox]

51 minutes ago, Swan Lesta said:

To ever find that love gain we need to change the FA blueprint of football being taught through the national sides at all age groups - worst brand of football going producing the worst kind of results.

Yeah we do need a change in culture I think but as Bryn points out hopefully we are moving in the right direction.  More than the culture/training I think we need a change in the power of the big clubs.  Would I be too cynical if I said I believe that England managers are pressurised to pick players from the big clubs so that potential England players (such as Maguire, Vardy, Noble, various other fringe players, etc) are more likely to want to move to those clubs?  Is it a way of keeping the big clubs big and making it harder for "smaller" clubs like us to keep our English players?

 

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[Nick]

4 minutes ago, RumbleFox said:

Yeah we do need a change in culture I think but as Bryn points out hopefully we are moving in the right direction.  More than the culture/training I think we need a change in the power of the big clubs.  Would I be too cynical if I said I believe that England managers are pressurised to pick players from the big clubs so that potential England players (such as Maguire, Vardy, Noble, various other fringe players, etc) are more likely to want to move to those clubs?  Is it a way of keeping the big clubs big and making it harder for "smaller" clubs like us to keep our English players?

 

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I really don’t think we are at all moving in the right direction.

[RumbleFox]

2 minutes ago, Swan Lesta said:

I really don’t think we are at all moving in the right direction.

Fair enough.

[Dan]

I still think we will be forever handicapped by the Premier League. The fact clubs in this country can be given a mega budget year in, year out for solely achieving PL status does nothing but damage to the national team. It's a structure that will hinder the national team and the only way you tackle it is by having more managers like Pochettino, like him or not.

[whoareyaaa]

Some bloke came on Talksport sounded like from up north said what ever we do we should find a way to play Vardy and Kane together regardless, it's blindly obvious but it likely won't be the case and it will be another reason we fail to achieve anything than knockout in the early stages

 

nothing changes.

[Dan]

I still think this obsession with cramming players in at any cost has worked against us to be honest.