cityfanlee23 Posted 15 December 2018 Posted 15 December 2018 Personally I can't wait for us to sack puel just so we can get on the back of the next manager when we are not challenging the top 4 in 10 games.
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 15 December 2018 Posted 15 December 2018 1 minute ago, The Doctor said: Watching a 480p stream tells you nothing about what's going on, nor does it show you everything at the game. Even when the performance is the exact opposite of what he's asking? Ok. Have it your way. Hes a great tactician, he’s inspiring and totally getting the best out of a squad of shit players.
StriderHiryu Posted 15 December 2018 Posted 15 December 2018 - The midfield two slow the game down too much and often give the ball away stupidly. - The forwards are too static and thus don’t drag defenders out of position / create space. - Interchange between the front 4 is non existent. No one-twos or combination play. This is probably our biggest weakness. - Maddison falls over trying to buy a foul instead of dictating and directing the play. This is a bit harsh but we play a system with an out and out ten and it’s a crucial position because it’s the primary source of creativity. - Passing between the team is too slow and rarely do we look to break the lines. From an attacking point of view probably the only thing we do well is creating overloads for our full backs. The solution? Either buy more players to play this style, persevere with the crop we have now and endure painfully poor performances for the rest of the season or change our style. It will be interesting to see what happens.
Suzie the Fox Posted 15 December 2018 Posted 15 December 2018 31 minutes ago, Otis said: In you opinion, as per the title? Our biggest problem imo is midfield. As the saying goes the best form of defence is offence and with x2 DM's on the pitch we are not able to do that and lack the creative push. With that in mind you would expect us to concede a less goals, yet today that worked against us as both our DM's, basically gifted them the goal that won the game.
Otis Posted 15 December 2018 Author Posted 15 December 2018 1 minute ago, cityfanlee23 said: Amazes me that people can't see this. Everyone just assumes "oh we are playing shit that must be how puel is telling them to play" In reality watch him on the sideline and he is literally screaming them forward at times. Quite.. I doubt he's telling Nacho to stand offside, KS to kick the ball out with every other goal kick or nobody get in on the end of crosses in the box. The players must take some responsibility.
SheppyFox Posted 15 December 2018 Posted 15 December 2018 Not trying, like they always do when they want a manager change.
LCCFox96 Posted 15 December 2018 Posted 15 December 2018 1 minute ago, NotTheMarketLeader said: Ok. Have it your way. Hes a great tactician, he’s inspiring and totally getting the best out of a squad of shit players. Nobody is saying that either though are they? We have a manager with a very long term focussed plan with a squad of player around which that can't be implemented. Puel has made a lot of mistakes over his time here and the players have struggled to adapt. We're at a bit of a crossroads and there is a mismatch. The manager isn't telling the players to misplace basic passes and to not move forwards and the players aren't going out to not try.
The Doctor Posted 15 December 2018 Posted 15 December 2018 6 minutes ago, NotTheMarketLeader said: Ok. Have it your way. Hes a great tactician, he’s inspiring and totally getting the best out of a squad of shit players. Except that's obviously not what I'm saying. He's mediocre, he's not dreadful and we as a club should know that having sat through Taylor, Holloway, Levein, Sousa, Worthington and Kelly in the last 18 years. Could we do better? Maybe, if we looked like getting someone like Nagelsmann I'd bin him off. Are we likely to do better? Look at our past recruitment? No. Do our problems run deeper than the manager? Yes. It's been the same problem since the title win, across 3 managers now.
Keiriel Posted 15 December 2018 Posted 15 December 2018 There's very little off the ball movement in the final third and players seem hesitant to attempt risky plays, often passing the ball back instead. Most of our attacks are down the wing with our outlets being Chilwell, Gray, Albrighton, and Ricardo. The problem is, Chilwell can't beat the first man, Gray tries to do everything himself and fails to release the ball quickly enough for teammates, then there's Albrighton's only skill which is lumping the ball into row Z. I have no complaints about Ricardo; his defensive side has improved a lot in such a short space of time, plus his attacking qualities are apparent. Despite this, our main area of concern lies in midfield. Mendy and Ndidi, on paper, should prove to be adequate cover for our backline. That hasn't shown to be the case, though. We've conceded silly goals due to one or both of them not closing down opposition outside of the box. When we're attacking, Ndidi has proven to be a huge liability; far too many times he's skied the ball into the next county or passed backwards when several better options were available. Mendy tends not to play risky passes, but he's been otherwise solid since coming in, bar the odd lapse of concentration.
Jakemoore Posted 15 December 2018 Posted 15 December 2018 33 minutes ago, Beechey said: Letting Ndidi pass the ball back to the centre backs every chance he gets. Yeah but that comes from the fact that there’s no movement ahead of him so he has to go backwards to retain possession. We’re so slow and ponderous. It’s just incredibly boring.
lgfualol Posted 15 December 2018 Posted 15 December 2018 10 minutes ago, cityfanlee23 said: Personally I can't wait for us to sack puel just so we can get on the back of the next manager when we are not challenging the top 4 in 10 games. You just know we will start well everyone will praise the lord and say how shit Puel was, then results will drop as usual and it will all repeat.
Stinkenzo Posted 15 December 2018 Posted 15 December 2018 19 minutes ago, Blue'nWhiteFox said: I assume the players simply follow their orders of how to play. Then the right question is to ask: What are the Manager doing wrong? I doubt the manager asks them to have a couple of shots per game, concede the first goal before you start to play etc. Works both ways
hackenbacker Posted 15 December 2018 Posted 15 December 2018 getting on the team bus to come to the game
Blue'nWhiteFox Posted 15 December 2018 Posted 15 December 2018 1 minute ago, Walkers said: I doubt the manager asks them to have a couple of shots per game, concede the first goal before you start to play etc. Works both ways The manager instruct them how to organize the play, the number of shots per game is only related to the number of chances they get in the game.
Stinkenzo Posted 15 December 2018 Posted 15 December 2018 2 minutes ago, Blue'nWhiteFox said: The manager instruct them how to organize the play, the number of shots per game is only related to the number of chances they get in the game. So he asks them not to create much?
Blue'nWhiteFox Posted 15 December 2018 Posted 15 December 2018 Just now, Walkers said: So he asks them not to create much? Ha ha... What do you think..?
Parafox Posted 15 December 2018 Posted 15 December 2018 1 hour ago, The Doctor said: Playing too slowly and ponderously. Which means not listening to the manager, given he's as angry on the sidelines as we are in the stands. But why are they being slow and ponderous? If Puel can't make them listen or understand his instructions, who's fault is that? Maybe his "anger" on the sidelines is just for show? Maybe they're thinking in French. Urrurr, intenstiteee, clariteeee. Slow anyone down, that.
cityfanlee23 Posted 15 December 2018 Posted 15 December 2018 1 hour ago, lgfualol said: You just know we will start well everyone will praise the lord and say how shit Puel was, then results will drop as usual and it will all repeat. Exactly this.
cityfanlee23 Posted 15 December 2018 Posted 15 December 2018 1 hour ago, Otis said: Quite.. I doubt he's telling Nacho to stand offside, KS to kick the ball out with every other goal kick or nobody get in on the end of crosses in the box. The players must take some responsibility. Yep, I had a heated debate with someone the other day who claimed the reason we start games slow is because Puel doesn't "inspire them" as if grown adults need their manager to get them fired up for a game they will earn hundreds of thousands from! They seem to forget that we were a 2nd half team under Pearson, for the most part under Ranieri we improved in the second half and also under Shakey. But no, it's Puel being boring that causes the players not to wake up and organise themselves early doors.
Fox92 Posted 15 December 2018 Posted 15 December 2018 Absolutely no fight or passion. Doesn't even look like they're bothered about trying.
Corky Posted 15 December 2018 Posted 15 December 2018 3 minutes ago, Fox92 said: Absolutely no fight or passion. Doesn't even look like they're bothered about trying. Hmm, sounds familiar. Hope we're not heading into January-February 2017 territory.
Fox92 Posted 15 December 2018 Posted 15 December 2018 Just now, Corky said: Hmm, sounds familiar. Hope we're not heading into January-February 2017 territory. Dunno if I'm being harsh but it seems to me there's a lack of effort.
steveherbe Posted 15 December 2018 Posted 15 December 2018 What are the players doing wrong? Fkin turning up most of them, stealing a living from the club I've supported for 60+ years, and am getting close to walking away from, as I'm bored rigid watching Puel-ball, and seeing little effort from overpaid mercenaries. Does that answer the OP's question?
vanity Posted 15 December 2018 Posted 15 December 2018 Well, today James Maddison sat around with his finger up his backside watching while we allowed a goal: https://streamja.com/3BG6. Best thing imaginable to pull him at the half, he was dreadful. We have to play 90 minutes to consistently beat inferior competition. Problem is, we just about never play 90 minutes.
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