That Vardy dive

[VLC86]

Struggling to see how people are even defending Vardy to be honest, much like people applauding Maddison walking off after being sent off for the same.

 

Valery’s was nowhere near as bad considering Chilwell actually made a mess of the challenge.

[Bert]

27 minutes ago, Costock_Fox said:

Struggling to see how people are even defending Vardy to be honest, much like people applauding Maddison walking off after being sent off for the same.

 

Valery’s was nowhere near as bad considering Chilwell actually made a mess of the challenge.

Valery’s was just as bad. A dive is a dive. They all take the same punishment and are just as embarrassing. There’s no grading for these type of things. 

[VLC86]

1 minute ago, Bert said:

Valery’s was just as bad. A dive is a dive. They all take the same punishment and are just as embarrassing. There’s no grading for these type of things. 

What I’m trying to say is Valery probably had enough contact to actually send him down and had that been Vardy and anticipated then we would have probably been screaming for it.

[Bert]

1 minute ago, Costock_Fox said:

What I’m trying to say is Valery probably had enough contact to actually send him down and had that been Vardy and anticipated then we would have probably been screaming for it.

Disagree. Just because there’s contact doesn’t give you the right to fling yourself to the floor like Valery did. Football is a contact sport. 

[The Doctor]

35 minutes ago, Costock_Fox said:

Struggling to see how people are even defending Vardy to be honest, much like people applauding Maddison walking off after being sent off for the same.

 

Valery’s was nowhere near as bad considering Chilwell actually made a mess of the challenge.

Valery's was the single most blatant dive you've ever seen. At least full speed it looked like Vardy might have been tripped.

[VLC86]

6 minutes ago, Bert said:

Disagree. Just because there’s contact doesn’t give you the right to fling yourself to the floor like Valery did. Football is a contact sport. 

I agree with that and don’t think I have said anywhere to suggest otherwise have I? My point is, Vardy is rightly being singled out because he tried to cheat and had Valery been more savvy, like Vardy, then we couldn’t have argued had a pen been given.

 

Another thought on that, review all penalties given for challenges on Vardy and let me know what percentage don’t fit into what you have described. That’s why he has been singled out.

[VLC86]

1 minute ago, The Doctor said:

Valery's was the single most blatant dive you've ever seen. At least full speed it looked like Vardy might have been tripped.

At least in full speed it looked like Vardy had been tripped, justified then forget all of the above.

[The Doctor]

Just now, Costock_Fox said:

At least in full speed it looked like Vardy had been tripped, justified then forget all of the above.

Eh no. I wasn't trying to justify it. At the game, thought it was a penalty, seeing the highlights I'm baffled as to why he dives when he's through on goal. But, anyone saying Valery's wasnt as bad when it was far more blatant needs to give their head a wobble

[ealingfox]

Was a stonewall penalty tbh.

[Bert]

9 minutes ago, Costock_Fox said:

I agree with that and don’t think I have said anywhere to suggest otherwise have I? My point is, Vardy is rightly being singled out because he tried to cheat and had Valery been more savvy, like Vardy, then we couldn’t have argued had a pen been given.

 

Another thought on that, review all penalties given for challenges on Vardy and let me know what percentage don’t fit into what you have described. That’s why he has been singled out.

I’ve not even said anything about Vardy? Don’t think anyone’s disputed that it wasn’t anything other than a dive either?

 

I picked you up on the Valery point saying no dive is any worse than any other, they’re all in the same bracket. If anything the way Valery went down was a lot more unnatural than Vardy. You said Valery’s was nowhere near as bad as Vardy? Just because of a bit of contact doesn’t make it any better or worse or however you might see it. A dive is a dive. 

[VLC86]

15 minutes ago, Bert said:

I’ve not even said anything about Vardy? Don’t think anyone’s disputed that it wasn’t anything other than a dive either?

 

I picked you up on the Valery point saying no dive is any worse than any other, they’re all in the same bracket. If anything the way Valery went down was a lot more unnatural than Vardy. You said Valery’s was nowhere near as bad as Vardy? Just because of a bit of contact doesn’t make it any better or worse or however you might see it. A dive is a dive. 

Referring to that last sentance, To be fair though in modern day football I’m not sure that’s true.

[Farrington fox]

It was a shocker a player like him should have known better, Should have neen booked. 

[Parafox]

4 hours ago, David Hankey said:

Every Club in the Premiership has at least one player who dives, some Clubs more than one. They'll all cheating, it's the same with not taking free-kicks from the correct place, placing to ball well outside the 'd' at corners and taking throw-ins 3/5 yards or more up the pitch from where the ball went out. I don't condone any of it and perhaps a few more yellow cards for these instances might pull a few of these miscreants up.

Old school 

 

If a thrower need a 5 yard run up, he should move 5 yards further back. If a player decides that the whole of the ball is not outside the corner quadrant (and it's always extremely marginal), the lino should move the ball back into it. Refs who allow a player to take a free kick in there own half from anywhere within 5 metres of where the offence took place should be considered to be allowing cheating. Goalkeepers should be made to take a goal-kick from the side of the goal where the ball went out, not anywhere they choose. 

 

Also, all players should be made to wear the same boots with 12 moulded studs so they cant gain an advantage by having them handmade to fit perfectly. Shin-pads should have whalebone inserts and not have Velcro fastenings but be held on by sellotape. Goalkeepers should be made to wear gloves made of fuzzy-felt with table-tennis bat style pimple strips on the fingers and be made to have to squeeze the water out of them during a break in play in a wet game. 

 

The footballs should be made of leather with a pigskin bladder that needs re-inflating at half time and that will leave an imprint on your thigh/face upon impact and that soak up so much moisture, that a free kick or a volley breaks your ankle.

 

For the record, I hate cheating. 

[Dahnsouff]

I know what will clamp down in this frankly naughty behaviour.

 

 

crap, I meant

 

[woddyuk]

3 hours ago, TheUltimateWinner said:

Both Vardy and Valery should have been carded simple as.

Agreed,, though watching Valery back on Chilwell thought that deserved a straight red. 

[Bob Weasel Fox]

3 hours ago, Fox92 said:

It's a dive. It's a booking. Deserves all the stick he gets.

 

Why would you dive instead of going for goal. Shameful.

I agree

 

howevet it’s the inconsistency of pundits that ****s me off

 

if you slate Vardy for that then please let’s slate all the big 6 club players who do it lots as well Salah is a prime example but then he is the golden boy who can do no wrong 

[Fox92]

5 minutes ago, woddyuk said:

Agreed,, though watching Valery back on Chilwell thought that deserved a straight red. 

I thought it deserved a red at the time/during the game. Could see how he'd gone in from where I sit in the Kop.

[PoshhFox]

Diving is shite but people love to rip into Vardy. Richarlison is the worst in the prem for antics like this

[Fox92]

2 hours ago, The Doctor said:

Eh no. I wasn't trying to justify it. At the game, thought it was a penalty, seeing the highlights I'm baffled as to why he dives when he's through on goal. But, anyone saying Valery's wasnt as bad when it was far more blatant needs to give their head a wobble

Not for me. I sit behind that end and didn't even appeal, you could see straight away it was a dive (both of them were).

[TheUltimateWinner]

10 minutes ago, woddyuk said:

Agreed,, though watching Valery back on Chilwell thought that deserved a straight red. 

He should have been sent off several times before he finally went

 

1) That challenge (Red)

2) The two challenges early on for Chilwell (yellow a piece)

3) The dive (Yellow)

4) His reaction to Chilwell (Yellow) 

5) Being named after an Amy Winehouse song (Straight red) 

[David Hankey]

15 hours ago, Parafox said:

Old school 

 

If a thrower need a 5 yard run up, he should move 5 yards further back. If a player decides that the whole of the ball is not outside the corner quadrant (and it's always extremely marginal), the lino should move the ball back into it. Refs who allow a player to take a free kick in there own half from anywhere within 5 metres of where the offence took place should be considered to be allowing cheating. Goalkeepers should be made to take a goal-kick from the side of the goal where the ball went out, not anywhere they choose. 

 

Also, all players should be made to wear the same boots with 12 moulded studs so they cant gain an advantage by having them handmade to fit perfectly. Shin-pads should have whalebone inserts and not have Velcro fastenings but be held on by sellotape. Goalkeepers should be made to wear gloves made of fuzzy-felt with table-tennis bat style pimple strips on the fingers and be made to have to squeeze the water out of them during a break in play in a wet game. 

 

The footballs should be made of leather with a pigskin bladder that needs re-inflating at half time and that will leave an imprint on your thigh/face upon impact and that soak up so much moisture, that a free kick or a volley breaks your ankle.

 

For the record, I hate cheating. 

And after that long and protracted submission what's your point?

[coolhandfox]

Salah dives all the time, Kane has his moment to but as they are both media darlings it's overlooked.

 

Not that it makes Vardy innocent, but the media should be balanced.

[PhillippaT]

On 13/01/2019 at 15:16, Jonezy said:

Vardy do has a dive in him and really has made an art out of the trailing leg hitting the defender. But why he is singled out by a former Spurs player, who has Alli and Son diving all the time, is really weird. Especially as a Southampton player did an even worse attempt at diving in the very same game.

 

When I saw the Vardy situation on a stream, I actually just thought he fell over his own feet, as he was laughing afterwards and shaking his head. But I am a biased tool.

That's what the commentators on my stream thought too...

[Corky]

Jermaine Jenas is totally against diving but seemed ok with the "dark arts" which he was encouraging on MOTD2 last night.

[Westlife]

Pundits still have an issue with us winning the league. Jenas is a shite pundit, is ex-Florist and hates that fact that we beat Spurs to the title more than most. Kane, Salah, Zaha are amongst many a guilty party this season.

 

I've no problem with the occasional con, but when it's overly theatrical they must know that the cameras pick it up.