FT General Election Poll 2019

[Vlad the Fox]

4 hours ago, urban.spaceman said:

Pretty sure one of these was my dad. 
 

 

Nice to my my X for Jamie Vardy has been counted.  

[lgfualol]

When are these Russian interference reports being released then

[Charl91]

11 minutes ago, simFox said:

Because we will be out the EU by the time they even get a sniff of another referendum, so they won't be voting to stay in the EU which is part of their claimed mandate. Out the rUK out of the EU. That doesn't sound like something worth voting for.

But they'll be able to re-join the EU when they leave.

[turkish14]

4 minutes ago, Charl91 said:

But they'll be able to re-join the EU when they leave.

Agree. Point made better then my explanation 

[Dahnsouff]

7 minutes ago, lgfualol said:

When are these Russian interference reports being released then

Just waiting for Putin to proof read them

[Col city fan]

Crikey! Lots of Labour voters according to the poll

Edited 13 December 2019 by Col city fan

[Strokes]

8 minutes ago, Charl91 said:

But they'll be able to re-join the EU when they leave.

Not with their current budget deficit they won’t.

[Manini]

3 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

Crikey, this forum isn’t representative of the electorate today is it!

This is it though, pretty much nobody is that I speak to either. There must have been a serious vote for the Torys from the over 50s or a lot of “quiet Britons” as the Aussie PM would say. Does anybody know if there’s any data available yet with how different age ranges voted? 

Edited 13 December 2019 by Manini

[Charl91]

1 minute ago, Strokes said:

Not with their current budget deficit they won’t.

Yeah, there's no way the EU aren't letting them in, to "get one over" on Brexit. They will fudge some numbers or find a workaround.

[Dahnsouff]

Just now, Manini said:

This is it though, pretty much nobody is that I speak to. There must have been a serious vote for the Torys from the over 50s or a lot of “quiet Britons” as the Aussie PM would say. Does anybody know if there’s any data available yet with how different age ranges voted? 

Those that voted for the non-victors shout the loudest. No way!! (I also did not vote Tory, this time anyway)

[somebum]

Leicester will always vote Labour; a demographic keen on hand outs.

 

Hopefully this result will power flush the turds Corbyn and Abbott once and for all.

[Strokes]

2 minutes ago, Charl91 said:

Yeah, there's no way the EU aren't letting them in, to "get one over" on Brexit. They will fudge some numbers or find a workaround.

Probably but that just proves what a corrupt bullshit organisation it really is.

Couldnt alter any of its principles to keep us but will alter them to scorn us

 

[The Guvnor]

Interesting victory speech from Boris. He does understand that if he wants to retain the thousands of Labour voters who have put their cross on the ballot paper for the Tories with trembling hands he has to invest heavily with infrastructure in those areas. I genuinely believe he is a one nation Tory and there will be major change around the country. His large majority will also be a massive positive in his pursuit of a decent end game deal with the EU.

One happy Tory and Leave voter here this morning.

 

[simFox]

16 minutes ago, turkish14 said:

Agree. Point made better then my explanation 

Not in a million years. They won't even have a currency. The EU won't want another mouth to feed when they've just lost one of their only net contributors. Got more chance of Sturgeon actually being a man.

Edited 13 December 2019 by simFox

[Charl91]

4 minutes ago, Strokes said:

Probably but that just proves what a corrupt bullshit organisation it really is.

Couldnt alter any of its principles to keep us but will alter them to scorn us

 

Yeah, I don't think the EU is perfect or even necessarily free of corruption, but that's politics. In comparison to the UK government though, it's a paragon of virtue. There's also an argument to say that Scotland was already in the EU but were taken out against their will, which I imagine would hold some weight.

 

In terms of us the EU had already altered some of it's principles - we got the tax rebate, etc. but you can't keep giving freebies every time people ask for them. Not much of a union really if one country keeps demanding special treatment to everyone else.

 

 

[Charl91]

2 minutes ago, simFox said:

Not in a million years. They won't even have a currency. The EU won't want another mouth to feed when they've just lost one of their only net contributors. Got more chance of Sturgeon actually being a man.

They'd have the euro

 

Yeah, I think you're being a bit naive if you think the EU wouldn't want Scotland. They certainly would. 

[Paninistickers]

46 minutes ago, twoleftfeet said:

Labours problems haven't just started under Corbyn they started under Blair and Brown. It was the "that Bigoted Lady" comment off the record by Brown that started to show the working class that labour had lost touch. Rather than listen to the concerns of traditional labour voters, Whether as leader of the party or not these where real concerns  or not.

 

I'm on a WhatsApp group of a suburban Leicester sports team. White working class males with a trade;, brickies, plumbers, civil engineer.....all on a decent wedge and ALL absolutely stonewall hard right Tories. 

 

The 'working class' vote for labour has gone. 

[String fellow]

The last time I woke up this happy, City had just won the PL, thanks to Chelsea. Blue is the colour. And Jo Swinson out is a bonus.

[Strokes]

9 minutes ago, Charl91 said:

Yeah, I don't think the EU is perfect or even necessarily free of corruption, but that's politics. In comparison to the UK government though, it's a paragon of virtue. There's also an argument to say that Scotland was already in the EU but were taken out against their will, which I imagine would hold some weight.

 

In terms of us the EU had already altered some of it's principles - we got the tax rebate, etc. but you can't keep giving freebies every time people ask for them. Not much of a union really if one country keeps demanding special treatment to everyone else.

 

 

It’s still quite risky even if you think the red carpet will be rolled out.

Spain will get a veto and with their internal problems regarding rogue states trying for independence, they might not be in the mood to prove it a successful model.

Edited 13 December 2019 by Strokes

[Sampson]

9 minutes ago, Charl91 said:

They'd have the euro

 

Yeah, I think you're being a bit naive if you think the EU wouldn't want Scotland. They certainly would. 

I think you're being a bit naive if you think the EU would just leg Scotland in.

 

Spain will always veto them to stop Catalonia getting any ideas.

Edited 13 December 2019 by Sampson

[Charl91]

4 minutes ago, Sampson said:

I think you're being a bit naive if you think the EU would just leg Scotland in.

 

Spain will always veto them to stop Catalonia getting any ideas.

No they won't - that myth needs to die.

 

Spain would veto Scotland if they broke away unconstitutionally (because it would set a precedent for Catalonia). Spain have no problem letting in Scotland if they follow all the proper procedures for leaving the UK.

 

We've had all these years of people saying "The EU wants to keep hold of us". Yet if Scotland were to be rejoining, on worse terms then they had previously (or better for the EU), people honestly think the EU will turn them away? 

Edited 13 December 2019 by Charl91

[Dahnsouff]

3 minutes ago, Sampson said:

I think you're being a bit naive if you think the EU would just leg Scotland in.

 

Spain will always veto them to stop Catalonia getting any ideas.

And this link below would further backup your highlighted claim (Despite initially stating they would not oppose it)

 

https://www.politico.eu/article/spain-fires-diplomat-in-scotland-over-eu-membership-letter/

 

[Stoopid]

4 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

I'm on a WhatsApp group of a suburban Leicester sports team. White working class males with a trade;, brickies, plumbers, civil engineer.....all on a decent wedge and ALL absolutely stonewall hard right Tories. 

 

The 'working class' vote for labour has gone. 

Leicester remains a Labour city though. I can't be the only white working-class old git who still votes for them - though sometimes it feels like it...there again I've always taken pleasure in cofounding orthodox opinion. 

[Dahnsouff]

1 minute ago, Stoopid said:

Leicester remains a Labour city though. I can't be the only white working-class old git who still votes for them - though sometimes it feels like it...there again I've always taken pleasure in cofounding orthodox opinion. 

You watch your hip with that, thats a fairly painful freudian slip 

[Strokes]

Just now, Stoopid said:

Leicester remains a Labour city though. I can't be the only white working-class old git who still votes for them - though sometimes it feels like it...there again I've always taken pleasure in cofounding orthodox opinion. 

The city is red but the county is blue. 
I think we should all have a fight. Country bumpkins vs Towny tramps. Let’s have it.