Training starting confirmed

[Hales]

7 minutes ago, Lambert09 said:

Oh me too. When I was a kid I used to get excited when the website would upload the first training pictures and would look through them all to see the players. Im back at that level. We are all craving a picture of Fuchs flicking someones ears 

I'm totally at that level - they need to post some training pictures! 🤪😁  I'd take anything right now 🤣

[jamesmilner]

4 hours ago, Hales said:

I think it takes a day to 2 for results so I presume they're testing today for resumption of training next week? 

The LCFC "Doc" is no fool trust me , he's the right man for the job !!

[jammie82uk]

10 hours ago, jamesmilner said:

There's a tent where all tests will take place that has been erected at the training ground . Players back first obviously .  All other staff still not back to protect the players . 

Monday 1st team plus some U23's will resume training at Belvoir Drive . 

Well its a start , please do not think this means football will return , the FA still are very wary of this still . 

Where has this been confirmed? 

[Guest]

On 15/05/2020 at 10:31, Abrasive fox said:

You can buy an antibody test for 50 quid on the Internet.

Domestos is cheaper.

[sdb]

1 hour ago, FIF said:

Domestos is cheaper.

Or shining a torch up your bum 

[st albans fox]

40 minutes ago, sdb said:

Or shining a torch up your bum 

You’d be surprised how enlightening an experience that was .........

[Trav Le Bleu]

On 15/05/2020 at 10:10, StanSP said:

Didn't know tests were in short supply? Thought the capacity was there... 

Hi Mr Hancock

[Trav Le Bleu]

On 15/05/2020 at 14:38, Lambert09 said:

Oh me too. When I was a kid I used to get excited when the website would upload the first training pictures and would look through them all to see the players. Im back at that level. We are all craving a picture of Fuchs flicking someones ears with a two metre stick.

Fixed

[Super_horns]

Suppose teams will have different ideas and safety issues?

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/i/web/status/1261976533729755139

[Hales]

A few team have been seen being tested at their training grounds ready to resume training tuesday. Results apparently back in 48 hours.

[Pliskin]

On 15/05/2020 at 09:26, Cujek said:

How have they got a tent for testing when tests are in such short supply?

 

Oh yeah money...

You can buy tests direct from the companies who make them. I know of people who have purchased some. The government have to purchase them like anyone else, so unfortunately the NHS haven’t got an endless supply to be tested and the companies making them will sell than as normal. Any money invested into the companies are a bonus, as it means more tests can be produced. The PL buying a load of kits will only benefit the NHS and emergency services as more will be produced. 
 

Edit: there’s isn’t a lot of companies producing them either, which means supply is somewhat limited. 

[Leeds Fox]

1 hour ago, Pliskin said:

You can buy tests direct from the companies who make them. I know of people who have purchased some. The government have to purchase them like anyone else, so unfortunately the NHS haven’t got an endless supply to be tested and the companies making them will sell than as normal. Any money invested into the companies are a bonus, as it means more tests can be produced. The PL buying a load of kits will only benefit the NHS and emergency services as more will be produced. 
 

Edit: there’s isn’t a lot of companies producing them either, which means supply is somewhat limited. 

I wouldn’t have bothered replying to such a post. We all know money can buy things that’re on sale. 
 

Ridiculous comment from @Cujek.
 

If spending tens of thousands on tests (which are available to buy) saves a company £70m then they’d be daft not to at least give it a go. 
 

Like you say @Pliskin, it’ll mean the testing company thrives and produces many more. People are moaning for the sake of it now. Money talks, it isn’t a recent thing. 

[Pliskin]

11 minutes ago, Leeds Fox said:

I wouldn’t have bothered replying to such a post. We all know money can buy things that’re on sale. 
 

Ridiculous comment from @Cujek.
 

If spending tens of thousands on tests (which are available to buy) saves a company £70m then they’d be daft not to at least give it a go. 
 

Like you say @Pliskin, it’ll mean the testing company thrives and produces many more. People are moaning for the sake of it now. Money talks, it isn’t a recent thing. 

Spot on. These companies need heavy investment from affluent areas to thrive. Could you imagine a huge cash injection from the PL into on of these businesses could well fund the NHS’s testing kits. It’s now they need the money from these wealthy sporting bodies to invest into the companies producing, its not like we’ve been fighting it for years, it’s a new illness, so naturally there will be a short supply until these companies can get themselves off the ground producing specific testing kits, huge investment from football for example will absolutely help that. 

[sacreblueits442]

..without being a scaremonger, how do we know these kits are reliable!!!!

  The government needs to approve the roll out and to adjudge the specifications meet the accepted criteria. The possibility of "False Negatives" being reported, is an open invitation to take us back to the start of this infection and the subsequent fall out that followed.

  There are rumours of misdiagnosis within the hospital's, with swab test not being done correctly and if they can't get it right there then, I do not know, where do we go from here?

[Leeds Fox]

23 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

..without being a scaremonger, how do we know these kits are reliable!!!!

  The government needs to approve the roll out and to adjudge the specifications meet the accepted criteria. The possibility of "False Negatives" being reported, is an open invitation to take us back to the start of this infection and the subsequent fall out that followed.

  There are rumours of misdiagnosis within the hospital's, with swab test not being done correctly and if they can't get it right there then, I do not know, where do we go from here?

When the clubs doctors are involved, you’d like to think each player will provide multiple samples (and tests) to negate the inaccuracies of the tests. It isn’t going to be done on a whim. They’ll source the best in the business, the 82% accuracy is a £50 test bought online. They’ll be getting the best tests going, not the cheap option. We’re talking about the best in the business here, the club’s Snr Dr will be liaising with a specialist in the field of CV related illnesses, as all clubs will be. 

[Pliskin]

9 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said:

..without being a scaremonger, how do we know these kits are reliable!!!!

  The government needs to approve the roll out and to adjudge the specifications meet the accepted criteria. The possibility of "False Negatives" being reported, is an open invitation to take us back to the start of this infection and the subsequent fall out that followed.

  There are rumours of misdiagnosis within the hospital's, with swab test not being done correctly and if they can't get it right there then, I do not know, where do we go from here?

It’s like anything new, a large amount of it is trial and error. We can only rely on the data we currently have, and any new data if relevant will then be factored into future tests. I imagine they will function similar to that of a road side drug swipe. It will be looking to pair with a certain characteristic of the coronavirus, thus indicating a potential carrier. Unfortunately they are primitive, with the time scale needed to mass produce them, the tests will naturally be inconsistent and throw up some mistakes, it’s something that won’t be ironed out for some time, however, it is better than having no ability to test so in short it’s better than nothing. 

[UniFox21]

11 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said:

..without being a scaremonger, how do we know these kits are reliable!!!!

  The government needs to approve the roll out and to adjudge the specifications meet the accepted criteria. The possibility of "False Negatives" being reported, is an open invitation to take us back to the start of this infection and the subsequent fall out that followed.

  There are rumours of misdiagnosis within the hospital's, with swab test not being done correctly and if they can't get it right there then, I do not know, where do we go from here?

Because they'll have been validated several times, approved by governing bodies and regulators before being used. Professional clubs aren't just going to buy any kit, they'll want the best available. 

 

Regarding false negatives, every single medical test you have done has that risk. The tests are chosen based upon having a lower risk of false negatives. This is also why you'd potentially have multiple tests done. 

 

Also the NHS is incredibly busy, whereas a football club with a fixed number of staff members will be easier to manage so mistakes are less likely. 

[sacreblueits442]

2 hours ago, Pliskin said:

It’s like anything new, a large amount of it is trial and error. We can only rely on the data we currently have, and any new data if relevant will then be factored into future tests. I imagine they will function similar to that of a road side drug swipe. It will be looking to pair with a certain characteristic of the coronavirus, thus indicating a potential carrier. Unfortunately they are primitive, with the time scale needed to mass produce them, the tests will naturally be inconsistent and throw up some mistakes, it’s something that won’t be ironed out for some time, however, it is better than having no ability to test so in short it’s better than nothing. 

...in that case you might as well play Rock Paper, Scissors....!!!

  People will be going about their business unaware that they are carrying the virus due to "False negative" readings.

 At this very moment the trust in this government is not something that allows me any comfort in their ability to manage this and at present people flying in to the country are still not being tested or quarantined and that level of incompetence still prevails.

[lcfc matt]

they resumed training on saturday in pairs.it was great to see them back and I assume they will gradually ease them back into things.but as I say over the past few days they have literally been two on then the next two start there session so hopefully they will get into some sort of routine now.

[Hales]

2 minutes ago, lcfc matt said:

they resumed training on saturday in pairs.it was great to see them back and I assume they will gradually ease them back into things.but as I say over the past few days they have literally been two on then the next two start there session so hopefully they will get into some sort of routine now.

I feel ridiculously excited to read they are back training! 😂 

[Pliskin]

55 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...in that case you might as well play Rock Paper, Scissors....!!!

  People will be going about their business unaware that they are carrying the virus due to "False negative" readings.

 At this very moment the trust in this government is not something that allows me any comfort in their ability to manage this and at present people flying in to the country are still not being tested or quarantined and that level of incompetence still prevails.

I don’t think there’s a single test out there that isn’t wholly 100% accurate 100% of the time... but when I say inconsistent results, you’re talking 1 negative test in about 100,0000. It happens with any test like it, for example I knew of someone who took a pregnancy test and it came back as they were preggers, few weeks later with no natural signs they did it again and it came back negative. So there is evidence in most tests that they are not 100% accurate 100% of the time. I think the fail rate in these tests is pretty low, as the characteristics they will be testing for will be easy to identify, so by saying the results may be inconsistent is comparable to that of a fleas testicle extremely minute in the grand scheme of things. 
 

I do think our handling of people coming into the country has been poor, as correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think we’ve actually as a nation restricted travel, the flight companies themselves have chosen the ground? But they seem desperate to get footy back (probably as there’s is a economic benefit, particularly when it comes to money becoming available for testing kits), Germany have showcased how it can be done, but of it should be done is a still a question that remains to be answered. Government criticism will be a constant at the moment, more so than usual, whereas I think some things could have been done better (but isn’t everyone a closet politician when they’re under the scope), this is a unique situation we’re in, and in all honesty I don’t think anyone really knows what to do, it’s very much a roll with it situation. 

[StanSP]

Clubs have agreed to stage 1 of the return to training protocols, whatever that means! 

[dsr-burnley]

On 15/05/2020 at 09:54, Spudulike said:

But if a player wants to train they could be sending him out whilst having the virus (even if not symptomatic) as the test result won't be instantly available. They may have strict rules on distancing etc but still a risk. 

 

The anti-body tests are instant but there's no scientific confirmation of immunity. 

To be fair, the risk of coronavirus to a player's wife and (especially) his children is less than the normal winter risk of flu.  At least according to the death statisitics.  And they manage without flu tests and social distancing.

 

The big danger is to older people.  Obviously if players feel that training and playing football is more dangerous than their lifestyle of the last couple of months, which basically means they have totally isolated and not gone to any shops etc., then they have the option of either isolating from their families, or not playing.

 

Kyle Walker, one assumes, is happy to play!

[jamesmilner]

I was a day out sorry ! 

[StriderHiryu]

https://www.premierleague.com/news/1670160?sf234079910=1

 

Premier League Shareholders today voted unanimously to return to small-group training from tomorrow afternoon, the first step towards restarting the Premier League, when safe to do so. 

Step One of the Return to Training Protocol enables squads to train while maintaining social distancing. Contact training is not yet permitted. 

This first stage has been agreed in consultation with players, managers, Premier League club doctors, independent experts and the Government. 

Strict medical protocols of the highest standard will ensure everyone returns to training in the safest environment possible. 

The health and wellbeing of all participants is the Premier League’s priority, and the safe return to training is a step-by-step process.

Full consultation will now continue with players, managers, clubs, the PFA and LMA as protocols for full-contact training are developed.