StanSP Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 40 minutes ago, Wortho said: Floyd isn't exactly MLK or S Wonder is he. If you want to his herald his life it's up to you. I think he's a drug taking thug who robbed people with a gun. But he didn't deserve to die nonetheless. I imagine you don't have an ounce of sympathy for seeing someone die from having the life literally sucked out of them by a police officer then? Even if he was a criminal, what happened to letting the legal system sort his punishment out? 1
Nuneatonfox in Manchester Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 3 minutes ago, Carl the Llama said: What has socialism got to do with it? Who convinced you there's a socialist plot to remove your rights by extending the same privileges you currently enjoy to all races? Do you ever use the nhs? My eyes convinced me when I read their original manifesto and their go fund me page. BLM mentions numerous perceived marginalised groups - not just in terms of race. It clearly has parallels with left wing politics. The ‘racists’ on here have all said that they would fully support ‘No to Racism’. Racist for not being racist - heads gone. I have used the nhs previously yes. I pay my tax and NI, why shouldn’t I? 1
Wortho Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 6 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said: Evidence please. And let's make it better than Fox News or some such... I have seen Floyd's criminal record. So do you support BLM being on players shirts? I don't think an organisation, who desecrated the Cenotaph and Churchill's statue should not associated with my club. But it's all about opinions.
HighPeakFox Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 1 minute ago, Wortho said: I have seen Floyd's criminal record. So do you support BLM being on players shirts? I don't think an organisation, who desecrated the Cenotaph and Churchill's statue should not associated with my club. But it's all about opinions. The organisation did not do that. Lone berks did that, and it would not surprise me if the group has been infiltrated by various groups to try and discredit it anyway.
FoxInTheBirstallBox Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 I'm sure I share the same sentiment as many on here, where I absolutly agree that the oppression of black people has to stop. Racism in all forms needs ending. But the BLM campaign is far too controversial (defunding police, legalised drugs, closing prisons ect) There would have be no harm in the prem coming up with their own slogan with the same message of highlighting racism to black people which everyone would have backed, so it's without the politics of it all.
Wortho Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 2 minutes ago, StanSP said: I imagine you don't have an ounce of sympathy for seeing someone die from having the life literally sucked out of them by a police officer then? Even if he was a criminal, what happened to letting the legal system sort his punishment out? Well you imagine wrong. I said he didn't deserve to die didn't I? This will all come out in court and it might turn out that the policeman was doing what he was trained to do, when restraining a suspect.
Carl the Llama Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 9 minutes ago, Nuneatonfox in Manchester said: My eyes convinced me when I read their original manifesto and their go fund me page. BLM mentions numerous perceived marginalised groups - not just in terms of race. It clearly has parallels with left wing politics. The ‘racists’ on here have all said that they would fully support ‘No to Racism’. Racist for not being racist - heads gone. I have used the nhs previously yes. I pay my tax and NI, why shouldn’t I? Because socialism is evil and manipulative?
StanSP Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 1 minute ago, FoxInTheBirstallBox said: There would have be no harm in the prem coming up with their own slogan with the same message of highlighting racism to black people which everyone would have backed, so it's without the politics of it all. To be fair, they have. As mentioned previously, having Black Lives Matter on players shirts came from a campaign led by Deeney & Morgan... 2
StanSP Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 Just now, Wortho said: Well you imagine wrong. I said he didn't deserve to die didn't I? This will all come out in court and it might turn out that the policeman was doing what he was trained to do, when restraining a suspect. If that's the training, for someone to push their knee on someone's neck, for nearly nine minutes, waiting for them to die, when already cuffed, surrounded by 3 other officers, then there's something seriously wrong. That's a massive cop-out to just rely on 'training'. Absolutely pathetic excuse for the death of a citizen at the hands of a policeman. 1
Wortho Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 6 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said: The organisation did not do that. Lone berks did that, and it would not surprise me if the group has been infiltrated by various groups to try and discredit it anyway. Nevertheless BLM should not be on our or any players shirts. It is a political movement and would normally be banned. Would you like EDL or NF on Vardy's shirt?
StanSP Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 1 minute ago, Wortho said: Nevertheless BLM should not be on our or any players shirts. It is a political movement and would normally be banned. Would you like EDL or NF on Vardy's shirt? EDL or NF hardly give out the same message as wanting equality and justice for all though, do they 1
Wortho Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 2 minutes ago, StanSP said: If that's the training, for someone to push their knee on someone's neck, for nearly nine minutes, waiting for them to die, when already cuffed, surrounded by 3 other officers, then there's something seriously wrong. That's a massive cop-out to just rely on 'training'. Absolutely pathetic excuse for the death of a citizen at the hands of a policeman. I'm not agreeing with it but his defence might be that that was how he was trained.
HighPeakFox Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 2 minutes ago, Wortho said: Nevertheless BLM should not be on our or any players shirts. It is a political movement and would normally be banned. Would you like EDL or NF on Vardy's shirt? This has already been dealt with in this thread. It ISN'T political, it is social. And equating the EDL to the struggle for equality is revolting. That is what is known as 'false syllogism'. 2 1
jonathan_ross Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 Well I’ll be boycotting games next season if the support for the organisation continues. 4
Popular Post StanSP Posted 13 June 2020 Popular Post Posted 13 June 2020 1 minute ago, jonathan_ross said: Well I’ll be boycotting games next season if the support for the organisation continues. You won't be missed 6
Samilktray Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 1 minute ago, jonathan_ross said: Well I’ll be boycotting games next season if the support for the organisation continues. I don’t think anyone will give a shit mate 3
urban.spaceman Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 Well this guy is furious. Still hasn't changed his surname though. 1
UniFox21 Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 4 minutes ago, jonathan_ross said: Well I’ll be boycotting games next season if the support for the organisation continues. This is amazing, boycotting games because players/the league want to bring attention and show their support against racism and equality. You can't make this sh1t up. You won't be missed. 3
Popular Post Samilktray Posted 13 June 2020 Popular Post Posted 13 June 2020 1 minute ago, UniFox21 said: This is amazing, boycotting games because players/the league want to bring attention and show their support against racism and equality. You can't make this sh1t up. You won't be missed. It’s genuinely mental that people are contemplating boycotting football games over an anti racism/pro equality movement. Bin the lot of them, weirdos 12
HankMarvin Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 14 minutes ago, StanSP said: If that's the training, for someone to push their knee on someone's neck, for nearly nine minutes, waiting for them to die, when already cuffed, surrounded by 3 other officers, then there's something seriously wrong. That's a massive cop-out to just rely on 'training'. Absolutely pathetic excuse for the death of a citizen at the hands of a policeman. He isn’t the first to die at the hands of a policeman though is he. Will players and the Premier League be taking action in future for every death at the hands of the police.
turtmcfly Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 52 minutes ago, Wortho said: Floyd isn't exactly MLK or S Wonder is he. If you want to his herald his life it's up to you. I think he's a drug taking thug who robbed people with a gun. But he didn't deserve to die nonetheless. I really just wanted to point out that BLM don't want to refund the police. I'm sure you're already aware he was murdered by a policeman.
Samilktray Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 1 minute ago, HankMarvin said: He isn’t the first to die at the hands of a policeman though is he. Will players and the Premier League be taking action in future for every death at the hands of the police. The BLM movement is far bigger than just George Floyd, his murder was the simply the catalyst for this. Can’t believe people are struggling with this, either that or you’re just being pedantic. 3
Carl the Llama Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 14 minutes ago, jonathan_ross said: Well I’ll be boycotting games next season if the support for the organisation continues. We can only hope you're a man of your word. 1
jonathan_ross Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Samilktray said: I don’t think anyone will give a shit mate well maybe if you’d served your country, seen your friends be killed in service and now your football team is sporting the same BLM slogan put on the cenotaph you’d be a little upset too. Sorry you don’t like my decision. Edited 13 June 2020 by jonathan_ross 1 1
yorkie1999 Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 6 minutes ago, StanSP said: If that's the training, for someone to push their knee on someone's neck, for nearly nine minutes, waiting for them to die, when already cuffed, surrounded by 3 other officers, then there's something seriously wrong. That's a massive cop-out to just rely on 'training'. Absolutely pathetic excuse for the death of a citizen at the hands of a policeman. Thing is, how this comes across is that Derrick Chauvin is representative of all policemen and therefore there's a major problem between the police force and the black community in America, but because they knew each other from working together and had a dislike for each other it becomes personal, so Floyd wasn't murdered at the hands of a policeman as such, he was murdered by someone who was taking advantage of the fact he was a policeman.
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