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It would seem judging from recent stabbings and shootings we're becoming a place of violence.

 

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Then you have this- WTF

 

Youths armed with weapons fight as 100 people gather in park
Residents are living in fear, dispersal order put in place

 

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Youths and young men fought with metal bars as a crowd of up to 100 people gathered in a park.

The clash happened on Little Bowden Recreation Ground, on the outskirts of Market Harborough, in the early hours of yesterday.

Police said similar gatherings had been happening since the weather had grown warmer, and residents were living in fear because of the crowds' behaviour, which as well as fighting has included taking drugs, drinking alcohol and making excessive noise.

Police have now implemented a dispersal order to try to combat the late-night disorder at the park.

Inspector Siobhan Gorman, of the Harborough police team, outlined the problems as she gave authorisation for the dispersal order, which came into force at 7pm yesterday and lasts until 7am tomorrow.

In the authorisation document, she said: “I am satisfied on reasonable grounds that the use of these powers may be necessary for the purpose of reducing the likelihood of members of the public in the locality being harassed, alarmed or distressed."

She added: "Youths are causing excessive noise, shouting, playing music within the park, fighting, drinking alcohol and drug taking. This causes considerable concern to neighbouring residents.

"Litter is left behind which provides evidence of drinking and drug paraphernalia.

“Smashed glass is often left on the park causing a danger for children and dogs.

 

“Youths and young adults have been seen to carry weapons. The residents who live on the boundary of the park are fearful and distressed by the actions of the youths and the young adults.

“This has been occurring in the good weather and has escalated.

“On June 26, there were approximately one hundred youths on Little Bowden Park. We received numerous calls from the community that serious disorder had taken place involving youths, adults and weapons.

“These reports from local residents were underpinned when discarded weapons were found close to the location where the disorder was reported.

“This caused significant upset and fear in the community due to the numbers of people involved and escalation.

 

“This has caused fears, concerns and reaction to the incident.

“The youths and young adults will congregate in the park from early evening into the early hours of the next day.

“Due to it being dark when officers enter the park, the youths run off in many directions.

“It is impossible to identify individuals present at locations. Local officers have attended the location on various occasions. I have viewed footage from witnesses which captures the scale of the problem.

“A gathering of 100-plus youths have gathered within the location.

“Local officers have had numerous complaints from residents via emails, social media, house-to-house survey and letters from the local MP regarding the anti-social behaviour at the location and the effect is it is having on their well-being."

The order covers the area within Scotland Road, Rectory lane, Kettering Road, the A508 Springfield Street and the A508 Northampton Road.

The order gives police the power to direct a person to leave the area specified if they have reasonable grounds to suspect that their behaviour has caused, or is likely to cause, harassment, alarm or distress to members of the public.

Failure to comply can result in arrest.

 

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/youths-armed-weapons-fight-100-4271476

 

 

 

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Crackers really. No idea where that's come from. Even for Harborough that's a really, really sleepy bit of town.

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There's only much the police can do, particularly how stretched they are with multiple crimes etc now.

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I still rate Leicester as a city as relatively safe city, never really felt any different. Nights out always felt the same type of "lairy" common in loads of cities on a Saturday night if anything, rather than violent.

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Unfortunately it has been brewing up to something like that in that park for a while. Been large groups of youths gathering there for a while getting bigger and bigger in size.

 

I was there Friday day time and there was large groups taking part in anti social behaviour (under age drinking and drug use). Police turned up but didn’t engage with them (at least whilst we were there which was for a couple of hours). When we got back home we saw they had time to take a nice picture to say they were patrolling there, and everything was fine, which was a bit frustrating to see as they certainly didn’t intervene whilst we were there.

 

https://www.facebook.com/185258898173454/posts/3326952520670727/?d=n

 

(I’m not anti police by the way and would normally back them to the hilt, but seeing their inaction on that occasion and then pretend everything okay was disappointing). 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, jonthefox said:

Bring back national front. Disrespectful little oiks.

Nick Griffin is a friend of mine, I think me and you could convince him....

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I don't know about anyone one else's experience but I don't think it's become violent it always has been. certainly saw my share of people being glassed and battered in town. Humberstone gate used to resemble Kabul when creation and zanzibar chucked out at 2. If anything certainly the city centre at night time feels less violent these days.

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1 hour ago, FoxesDeb said:

Isn't that travelling community territory? 

One site either end of town.

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58 minutes ago, Voll Blau said:

One site either end of town.

Harborough has one on every route in! Don’t think they were the trouble causers though, the park isn’t really within walking distance of any. It’s always been local yobs when I’ve seen them.

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23 minutes ago, TheUltimateWinner said:

Harborough has one on every route in! Don’t think they were the trouble causers though, the park isn’t really within walking distance of any. It’s always been local yobs when I’ve seen them.

Not a million miles from Justin Park I guess, but you're right - never somewhere associated with that community. Less so since The Bell was converted into a curry house.

 

Inter-school rivalry now Welland Park and Robert Smyth are competitors rather than aligned?

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Geezers need excitement

If there lives don't provide them they stay incite violence

Common sense, simple common sense

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11 hours ago, jonthefox said:

Bring back national service. Disrespectful little oiks.

I assume you're a very old man considering National Service ended in about 1960? I hope you did, because you're a ridiculous hypocrite otherwise for calling to "bring back national service" when you didn't experience it yourself.

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2 hours ago, foxfanazer said:

Geezers need excitement

If there lives don't provide them they stay incite violence

Common sense, simple common sense

Prophetical from the Streets

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Machetes, knives and baseball bats used in 'violent disorder'
Nine people have been arrested


ByMaia Snow
12:26, 4 JUL 2020UPDATED12:29, 4 JUL 2020
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Nine have been arrested following an incident in Park Road, Blaby (Image: Google)

Two people were injured during an incident involving machetes, knives and baseball bats in a residential street.

Officers from Leicestershire Police were called to Park Road in Blaby at around 8pm yesterday after a report that a number of people were involved in a fight.

Multiple weapons were used in the fight, and two people were found with injuries shortly afterwards in Glen Parva.

The victims sustained minor injuries and were taken to hospital for treatment.

One has since been discharged and the second victim remains in hospital.

Eight men, aged 18, 19, 20, 21, 21, 23, 23 and 24, and a 17 year-old boy, have been arrested on suspicion of affray in connection with the incident and remain in custody.


The force is now appealing for witnesses to come forwards.

Detective sergeant Fraser McIntosh from Hinckley and Blaby Neighbourhood Policing Area (NPA), said: "This incident involved a large number of people and quite rightly would have caused some alarm within the local community.

"We would like to reassure you that we believe this disorder was an isolated and targeted incident.

"Nine people have been arrested in connection with the incident, two vehicles have been seized and a number of properties are being searched. We have recovered some weapons including knives and a baseball bat.

"Despite the inquiries we are doing in the area we would like to speak to anyone who has any information about the motivation and background to the events leading up to the disorder last night.


"Also if you witnessed the incident and haven't yet spoken with officers please get in touch. If anyone recorded the incident on their phones, has been sent footage or was driving by at the time and captured it on their dash cams we would like to speak to you.

"Any information, no matter how insignificant it may seem, could help us move this investigation on."

Anyone with information should contact DS McIntosh at the police on 101.

 

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/local-news/machetes-knives-baseball-bats-used-4293385

 

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Dispersal order given to police after pubs reopening 'kicks off' in Market Harborough town centre
'Absolute disgraces'

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Police in Market Harborough on Saturday night (Image: Leicestershire Police)

Powers to send people away from a town centre were handed to police last night after 'shameful and frightening' scenes.

Officers in Market Harborough were granted a Section 34 order, allowing them to command people to leave the area, after reports of anti-social behaviour.

The powers, which Leicestershire Police reported were in place at around 11pm last night, remain in force until 7am today for the town centre.


Shortly afterwards, Leicestershire Police tweeted: "Officers successfully disperse people in Market Harborough following the authorisation of a Section 34 dispersal order.

"Good work by Team Leicestershire moving people on and keeping people safe."



Insp Siobhán Gorman, Inspector in charge of policing in the town, added there had been "incidents" in the centre of Market Harborough centre, saying: "A dispersal order is in place. People are now starting to leave."

 

Commenting on the police's dispersal order announcement, members of the public branded those responsible for anti-social behaviour "absolute disgraces" and "absolutely outrageous".

One added: "I drove through just as it was kicking off. Shameful and frightening.

"Put us back into lockdown and keep the idiots at home!"

 

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/local-news/dispersal-order-given-police-after-4295204

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With regards to Harborough, I am out and about there often and am unsure where all this “trouble” is coming from.

 

Walked through there at 7.45pm on Saturday night and it was very quiet, not many on the streets, but full of police, probably hearing many could be visiting from Leicester. 
 

On the way home we weren’t allowed to walk through the centre as there was a fight outside the spoons, and there was a young lad gobbing off to the feds. He seemed to have watched too many episodes of police interceptors, but it wasn’t scary or anything, no large groups.

 

Heard there was a fight outside the pub, but with the amount of feds around it wouldn’t have lasted long.

 

Did not see any large groups, felt safe as normal and not sure all this trouble is as bad as it has been made out to be.

 

In Harborough if anything happens it’s big news, and generally dealt with quickly, so I think in both cases it maybe small incidents stepped on quickly and extreme to ensure it doesn’t escalate. 
 

It’s defiantly not a rough town, not group’s of hard lads or anything. There are a few proper druggies, but they stick out like a soar thumb, skinny, poor looking, but these are just a few that you spot and are the exception. There are obviously the recreational users too, but they are everywhere.

 

Two gypo camps, they tend to come out on a Sunday. They keep themselves to themselves, but again you know who they are. There are some unpleasant ones in the mix, including a regular drunk driver, but they don’t congregate as such. 

 

But keep away until the lock down is over, but it’s generally a quiet town and if there was a genuine problem it would be known about.

 

 

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30 minutes ago, Rob1742 said:

With regards to Harborough, I am out and about there often and am unsure where all this “trouble” is coming from.

 

Walked through there at 7.45pm on Saturday night and it was very quiet, not many on the streets, but full of police, probably hearing many could be visiting from Leicester. 
 

On the way home we weren’t allowed to walk through the centre as there was a fight outside the spoons, and there was a young lad gobbing off to the feds. He seemed to have watched too many episodes of police interceptors, but it wasn’t scary or anything, no large groups.

 

Heard there was a fight outside the pub, but with the amount of feds around it wouldn’t have lasted long.

 

Did not see any large groups, felt safe as normal and not sure all this trouble is as bad as it has been made out to be.

 

In Harborough if anything happens it’s big news, and generally dealt with quickly, so I think in both cases it maybe small incidents stepped on quickly and extreme to ensure it doesn’t escalate. 
 

It’s defiantly not a rough town, not group’s of hard lads or anything. There are a few proper druggies, but they stick out like a soar thumb, skinny, poor looking, but these are just a few that you spot and are the exception. There are obviously the recreational users too, but they are everywhere.

 

Two gypo camps, they tend to come out on a Sunday. They keep themselves to themselves, but again you know who they are. There are some unpleasant ones in the mix, including a regular drunk driver, but they don’t congregate as such. 

 

But keep away until the lock down is over, but it’s generally a quiet town and if there was a genuine problem it would be known about.

 

 

 

My brother works at one of the boozers in town and apparently it was quiet by all accounts, with the Freemasons being where it was kicking off. Won't read too much into that being the closest pub to the station mind as apparently they had a huge outdoor bit set up and it's really popular these days anyway.

 

Imagine there was always going to be some trouble given it'll be the same types you see out on Christmas Eve there who would've been desperate to show just how hardcore they can be on their one trip a year out to the pub. Throw in a few Young Farmer type nobheads and there's always potential for a skirmish.

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38 minutes ago, Voll Blau said:

 

My brother works at one of the boozers in town and apparently it was quiet by all accounts, with the Freemasons being where it was kicking off. Won't read too much into that being the closest pub to the station mind as apparently they had a huge outdoor bit set up and it's really popular these days anyway.

 

Imagine there was always going to be some trouble given it'll be the same types you see out on Christmas Eve there who would've been desperate to show just how hardcore they can be on their one trip a year out to the pub. Throw in a few Young Farmer type nobheads and there's always potential for a skirmish.

Opening the boozers on a Saturday was probably a bad move in hindsight ! 
The potential for trouble was always in the air. Particularly in somewhere like MH, when Leicester is locked down. I don’t think it was as bad as it’s been portrayed, just a few idiots. Although l do know a girl was punched and looks pretty bad. 

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From some of my friends who were out in harbs, I heard that those who caused trouble were people from the city (which was always going to happen unfortunately).

 

From the footage I saw inside Sugar Loaf (Wetherspoons) I don't think their social distancing procedures were up to much!

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