Strokes Posted 3 May 2021 Share Posted 3 May 2021 9 minutes ago, David Hankey said: Perhaps the moderators ought to put this whole Manure topic in the 'General Football' forum as not only is becoming tedious it is overwhelming all other Premier League 2020/21 news which in many cases is far more worthy of space than the moronic behaviour of some Northern idiots!! Well how about you let us talk where we want and you take your boring posts off to general sport you arrogant ****. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Samilktray Posted 3 May 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 3 May 2021 It’s weird and a little bit “football Twitter” to be anything but in support of United fans and these protests. Time to leave the tribalism at the door and come together to bring about change in our game imo 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 3 May 2021 Share Posted 3 May 2021 3 minutes ago, Strokes said: Well how about you let us talk where we want and you take your boring posts off to general sport you arrogant ****. Bit much mate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hankey Posted 3 May 2021 Share Posted 3 May 2021 After the horrendous scenes we all witnessed at the weekend regarding the mob rule at Old Trafford have the fans lost the plot or is it really all down to the owners and the way they conduct their business? We all have an opinion and can argue until the cows (no pun intended) come home but as I have said before if all Clubs had owners like ours we wouldn't have these sorts of protests. What's your take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NasPb Posted 3 May 2021 Share Posted 3 May 2021 (edited) All I've got to say is that it's no surprise that destruction of property was done given that nothing changed and there are no platformsfor change after years of protests. I don't support said destruction regardless but i understand why they stormed the stadium, just like west ham fans a couple years ago. Football owners need to not only be held accountable but also heavily regulated. It's gone to far. Also against any violence used. Civil disobedience imo can be justified but violence is too far. Edited 3 May 2021 by NasPb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hankey Posted 3 May 2021 Share Posted 3 May 2021 5 minutes ago, Strokes said: Well how about you let us talk where we want and you take your boring posts off to general sport you arrogant ****. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie1999 Posted 3 May 2021 Share Posted 3 May 2021 23 minutes ago, Fox92 said: Quickly followed by 3 back to back titles and a champions league, which coincidentally stopped the protests cos all the protesters fvcked off to fc United Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokes Posted 3 May 2021 Share Posted 3 May 2021 Just now, Dahnsouff said: Bit much mate Probably but why shouldn’t we talk in here? It happened before a premier league match to two premier league teams and effects the league. Just because he fines it tedious he thinks he is in a position to get it moved out of eyesight. I’ve no time for people like that. He isn’t a moderator for good reason, he lacks judgment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Hero Posted 3 May 2021 Share Posted 3 May 2021 1 minute ago, NasPb said: All I've got to say is that it's no surprise that destruction of property was done given that nothing changed and there are no platformsfor change after years of protests. I don't support said destruction regardless but i understand why they stormed the stadium, just like west ham fans a couple years ago. Football owners need to not only be held accountable but also heavily regulated. It's gone to far Is there much condemnation for storming the stadium? Maybe there has been. I think there is likely to be more for the slashing of the policeman's face. Evidently this particular challenge is an omelette, and needs some eggs breaking, but its a real shame when that becomes an excuse for yobs to have a tear up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 3 May 2021 Share Posted 3 May 2021 The fact that this was a localised Man Utd only protest was always going to give the media an out, if it had been coordinated with Liverpool fans it would have had far more impact against the ESL proposals. The media are now just going to right it off as incoherent hooligans, which is wrong. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The People's Hero Posted 3 May 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 3 May 2021 Just now, Strokes said: Probably but why shouldn’t we talk in here? It happened before a premier league match to two premier league teams and effects the league. Just because he fines it tedious he thinks he is in a position to get it moved out of eyesight. I’ve no time for people like that. He isn’t a moderator for good reason, he lacks judgment. I got banned the other day for refusing to overreact to a draw against Southampton where I made many calm and salient points, despite being attacked and abused. It was me who got banned. That suggests to me that the level of the bar in terms of 'judgment' required to be a mod; isn't very high. Probably made someone feel important for about 5 minutes though on their bank holiday weekend; and I'm all about charity. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Hero Posted 3 May 2021 Share Posted 3 May 2021 1 minute ago, Dahnsouff said: The fact that this was a localised Man Utd only protest was always going to give the media an out, if it had been coordinated with Liverpool fans it would have had far more impact against the ESL proposals. The media are now just going to right it off as incoherent hooligans, which is wrong. Bingo. They almost needed it to be squeaky clean. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 3 May 2021 Share Posted 3 May 2021 1 minute ago, Strokes said: Probably but why shouldn’t we talk in here? It happened before a premier league match to two premier league teams and effects the league. Just because he fines it tedious he thinks he is in a position to get it moved out of eyesight. I’ve no time for people like that. He isn’t a moderator for good reason, he lacks judgment. No, it probably does belong here, as it certainly effects this league (was caused by, in part), and I commented recently that a unified protest would have been even more effective in my opinion, so can hardly gripe at the comments location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynamark Posted 3 May 2021 Share Posted 3 May 2021 I dont think anyone has made the point that we really wanted to see the result of this fixture in the light of our remaining games Now its likely to be the cup final weekend before we know the numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Hero Posted 3 May 2021 Share Posted 3 May 2021 Just now, dynamark said: I dont think anyone has made the point that we really wanted to see the result of this fixture in the light of our remaining games Now its likely to be the cup final weekend before we know the numbers. The numbers are entirely irrelevant. We ignore them. We go out in every game and try to get the best possible result. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokes Posted 3 May 2021 Share Posted 3 May 2021 2 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: The fact that this was a localised Man Utd only protest was always going to give the media an out, if it had been coordinated with Liverpool fans it would have had far more impact against the ESL proposals. The media are now just going to right it off as incoherent hooligans, which is wrong. We don’t have to accept the media narrative though, we aren’t living in a cuckhold. We are free to make up our own minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NasPb Posted 3 May 2021 Share Posted 3 May 2021 4 minutes ago, The People's Hero said: Is there much condemnation for storming the stadium? Maybe there has been. I think there is likely to be more for the slashing of the policeman's face. Evidently this particular challenge is an omelette, and needs some eggs breaking, but its a real shame when that becomes an excuse for yobs to have a tear up. Just edited my comment. I think its clear that that is the major issue, but regardless, all this could have been avoided if there were legitimate means to getting or avoiding scum like the Glazers. Still responsable are those that used violence though on either side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie1999 Posted 3 May 2021 Share Posted 3 May 2021 11 minutes ago, Strokes said: German football is still exciting, we’ve had teams dominating the league here before and interest doesn’t wane. Also is that domination in any way the reason BM dominate the domestic league? What evidence is there to support that? In non of my posts have i called for the German model or 50+1 ownership. Just change which involves fans voice being more important than broadcasters and media teams. The last sentence is disgusting, as it’s been displayed to you several times that it’s wrong and you still parrot it. It’s not though, Man Utd fans want the glaziers out so the club can spend more money, that’s their fundamental argument, they earn the most so they can spend the most, it’s not for the greater good of football, they don’t give two shits about us, we will be the ones that will suffer when we’re seen as just some sort of feeder club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Hero Posted 3 May 2021 Share Posted 3 May 2021 Just now, Strokes said: We don’t have to accept the media narrative though, we aren’t living in a cuckhold. We are free to make up our own minds. Agreed; but maybe 10% will think about it as much as most of us will. A lot of others will happily be spoon fed their opinion and discourse on it. That's not a criticism; they will take a decent source (BBC maybe) and just go with that. The more public outrage there is, lobbying the FA, lobbying their local MPs etc; we might get actual GOVERNMENT action and then something can be enshrined in LAW, not just in the FA rules. Anything that dampens that momentum, public or government sympathy for the changes need, is damaging the cause very directly. Like it or not, we need the Government and the people who run football in the country (and perhaps in Europe too) onside to some extent. Demonstration and delaying/postponing games and kick offs will do the trick. Slashing policeman's face is not something that will ever go down well in this country. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 3 May 2021 Share Posted 3 May 2021 2 minutes ago, Strokes said: We don’t have to accept the media narrative though, we aren’t living in a cuckhold. We are free to make up our own minds. It is unified cohesive thought required here, not individual realisation and such cohesive thought is often set by the media (like it or not) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynamark Posted 3 May 2021 Share Posted 3 May 2021 It would have been nice to get our job done before the Cup final and a Man U win would have helped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katieakita Posted 3 May 2021 Share Posted 3 May 2021 Utd are faced with a game back log which seeing that we play them next week helps us. they need to get in 5 league games and a European semi final done by the 23rd and they should be preparing for a Cup final themselves on the 26th so in reality 6 games in 17 days, they have been pretty lucky with injuries so far but this might just come back to haunt them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Hero Posted 3 May 2021 Share Posted 3 May 2021 I think the mods should decide not only the exact course, ebb and flow and subject matter of each thread, but they should also supply me with some pre-approved posts and opinions. That would keep the place lovely and tidy and sanitised and predictable and save me typing them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Hero Posted 3 May 2021 Share Posted 3 May 2021 1 minute ago, katieakita said: Utd are faced with a game back log which seeing that we play them next week helps us. they need to get in 5 league games and a European semi final done by the 23rd and they should be preparing for a Cup final themselves on the 26th so in reality 6 games in 17 days, they have been pretty lucky with injuries so far but this might just come back to haunt them I reckon they might have other home game protests too though. I wouldn't even be that surprised if Liverpool/Man United tried to orchestrate getting some away games affected too. The realisation that you can just prevent the coaches turning up and that a delay is damaging as Sky cover almost every game plays right in to their hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonthefox Posted 3 May 2021 Share Posted 3 May 2021 Manure? Really? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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