"Project Big Picture"

[gw_leics772]

Some good points that the epl should take and do what my boss did to me once. 

Take most of the good ideas, and bollocks to the ones he doesn't like. 

18 teams, money share, but in exchange for big 6 having all the power. **** that! Same voting structure. Its not their choice! 

 

Nb. This is my first reaction, I'm sure there is a lot more devil in the detail that is not so good, but general premise stands imo. Fairer money split. No way let clubs have their own money or we become Scotland and Spain. 

**** the big 6. Even if we join them! 

[gw_leics772]

22 hours ago, urban.spaceman said:

Haven't read it yet, but my gut says it's going to be a cynical plan to make the rich richer and give the poorer clubs even less of a chance to succeed than when we won the league, all in the guise of 'mAkInG tHiNgS fAiReR'.

 

I'll come back to confirm my thoughts after I've read it...

Best tldr summary ever! Good work fella. 

I confirm it having read it (albeit briefly) 

[AndyK]

1 minute ago, gw_leics772 said:

Some good points that the epl should take and do what my boss did to me once. 

Take most of the good ideas, and bollocks to the ones he doesn't like. 

18 teams, money share, but in exchange for big 6 having all the power. **** that! Same voting structure. Its not their choice! 

 

Nb. This is my first reaction, I'm sure there is a lot more devil in the detail that is not so good, but general premise stands imo. Fairer money split. No way let clubs have their own money or we become Scotland and Spain. 

**** the big 6. Even if we join them! 

 

It's very generous of Liverpool and MU to allow Burnley to give up some of their income in exchange for Burnley also giving up any vestige of control, isn't it?

[KIRBYFOX93]

if this happens id probably knock it all on the head and go to watch non league instead. this is nothing more than a dictatorship, the game would be lost.

[twister]

3 minutes ago, KIRBYFOX93 said:

if this happens id probably knock it all on the head and go to watch non league instead. this is nothing more than a dictatorship, the game would be lost.

same here sky and bt can go as well if this goes through

 

i'm done if this goes through

[mozartfox]

14 hours ago, Dan LCFC said:

Rick Parry should be forced to resign also.

Yep just heard him on Talk-shite.  Total Bell-end.

[AndyK]

1 minute ago, twister said:

same here sky and bt can go as well if this goes through

 

i'm done if this goes through

 

Sky and BT are ostensibly against it - 8 matches per club on club-only channels would tear out all the big games from them. Of course, there's always Amazon to replace them.

[Voll Blau]

I've always thought it a bit odd that people seem to want a breakaway Super League to happen. Imagine having your future kids saying "Well, I support Man United in the ESL but Leicester are my English team..." 

[KIRBYFOX93]

it would be a travesty. the yanks need to improve their own game. not try to disrupt ours. 

[CosbehFox]

I find interesting that a lot of the 'good points' are not a result of the proposed structure changes or competitions being removed. 

 

The good points of gifting money to the FA and allowing a percentage of money to the FL can happen anyway. Just it's suddenly they are a possibility now because they have something  in exchange.

 

The more I look at it, the more some of the stuff is pie in the sky. The loanee rules would require FIFA approval. The abolishment of the Community Shield would require the FA giving up one of their money makers at Wembley Stadium - e.g. ticket sales, TV deal. 

[Scotch]

The fact that they have apparently been discussing this since 2017 is undeniable proof that they have now seized the opportunity of the pandemic to pounce. 

 

How horrendous a person must you be to watch on as thousands of people die and even more are fearing for their livelihoods all the while thinking..... "Now is the time to take advantage and exploit these peasants to add a few more zeros to my bank account"??

 

And the absolutely hilarious icing on a cake of sickening greed and inhumanity is that it stems from a club who pride themselves on being some sort of beacon for humility and morals. 

 

It would be laughable if it wasnt so terrifying!

[Frank Large's Black Book]

Proposal for next EPL meeting:

 

"We have no confidence that Manchester utd and Liverpool are acting in the best interest of football and therefore propose that they either be removed or relegated to the EFL."

[Corky]

14 minutes ago, Voll Blau said:

I've always thought it a bit odd that people seem to want a breakaway Super League to happen. Imagine having your future kids saying "Well, I support Man United in the ESL but Leicester are my English team..." 

I don't think any fans seriously want a Super League to happen but we are getting fed up of the top clubs trying to dictate and distort the domestic game.

 

Currently, the game couldn't afford to lose them. Doesn't mean they have the right to run roughshod over it to suit their own needs.

[twister]

13 minutes ago, Frank Large's Black Book said:

Proposal for next EPL meeting:

 

"We have no confidence that Manchester utd and Liverpool are acting in the best interest of football and therefore propose that they either be removed or relegated to the EFL."

Yes and Yes again, even better would be the 14 owners kick out of the meeting the ones involved in this stitch up.

[RowlattsFox]

A case of ok, we might help the finances of the lower leagues clubs but what's in it for us?

 

I don't pretend to understand the ins and out of it but if it requires a vote then surely no-one who might be one the extra clubs relegated will be in favour and championship clubs are unlikely to reduce their chances of getting into the premier league? 

 

 

[Dahnsouff]

This is a tightrope for Sky and BT (No sympathy, just commenting)

[Dahnsouff]

1 minute ago, twister said:

Yes and Yes again, even better would be the 14 owners kick out of the meeting the ones involved in this stitch up.

Be funny for a little while, but lets be clear, the revenue would dive off a cliff

[Muzzy_Larsson]

25 minutes ago, Voll Blau said:

I've always thought it a bit odd that people seem to want a breakaway Super League to happen. Imagine having your future kids saying "Well, I support Man United in the ESL but Leicester are my English team..." 

With the commercialisation of the big leagues that already happens. I have young cousins who along with all their friends who have an English team, a Spanish team, etc, etc which is a nonsense.

[Muzzy_Larsson]

2 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Be funny for a little while, but lets be clear, the revenue would dive off a cliff

This is the reality. If the big six or 9 or whatever you want to brand them disappear the gravy train that is the EPL currently will disappear just as quickly. No broadcaster is going to pay top dollar for the top of the bill being Leicester v Newcastle and I mean that with the greatest of respect. The English league would become something on a par with the dutch league or whatever.

[Frank Large's Black Book]

3 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Be funny for a little while, but lets be clear, the revenue would dive off a cliff

Would it though?

No stupid transfer fees from man U agreed. TV fees reduced on next sale agreed but bigger % for everyone else.

 

 

[twister]

1 minute ago, Frank Large's Black Book said:

Would it though?

No stupid transfer fees from man U agreed. TV fees reduced on next sale agreed but bigger % for everyone else.

 

 

spot on the middle sized clubs would grow, sheffield wendsday have a 40,000 stadium who is it not to say they would not join the  new party, sunderland,newcastle, wolves, some huge games

 

lets not forget over million people watched leeds derby last year.

[Dahnsouff]

1 minute ago, Frank Large's Black Book said:

Would it though?

No stupid transfer fees from man U agreed. TV fees reduced on next sale agreed but bigger % for everyone else.

The major revenues to teams in the EPL are from TV, both domestic and worldwide, but as this is sold as package, all teams benefit in a more or less equal way. However, without the "big 6" forming part of the package, the viewer counts drops massively, both domestically and world wide, and therefore the value of the TV deal for the indignant (Non big 6) must follow suit.

[Corky]

6 minutes ago, Frank Large's Black Book said:

Would it though?

No stupid transfer fees from man U agreed. TV fees reduced on next sale agreed but bigger % for everyone else.

 

 

Yes. The top six are the big attraction and always will be- I've no problem with that. Their revenues and ability to bring in the riches will always be higher than ours and similar clubs to ourselves. What the TV deal has done is allowed everyone to spend more, to attract better players and attempt to reduce the gap.

 

That's what they don't like. Our title win has terrified them. Wolves doing well has concerned them. Look at the comments recently- "No more Leicester City's", "Why are Atalanta allowed to do well?"

 

This season, another team in the top four/ six, preferably two, is badly required.

[ScrumpyJack]

Not having it at all. Football isn’t fair, I’m sure we can all agree on that. This proposal seems like institutional bullying and a consolidation of power amongst the so-called Big Six. The only comparison that springs to mind is the oligarchs grabbing resource mills in Russia following the downfall of the Soviet Union; capitalising on a time of strife for individualistic gain. The smoke and mirror is that it is for the good of the league, but this just develops an Us vs Them narrative.

 

While individually clubs can benefit from outsider investment, this just seems like an internal favouring towards big clubs. As Leeds, Nottingham Forest and WBA have shown previously, success in English football is cyclical, to borrow that twat Piers Morgan’s old Twitter bio “one day you’re the cock of the walk, the next you’re the feather duster.”

 

Pure consolidationism by United and Liverpool. 

[Footballwipe]

Can I just add that the L1 & L2 clubs whoring themselves out to their manuipulative sugardaddies offering this sweet sweet redistribution might not be quite so happy to see their reply in a few years down the line when they're inevitably back in a perilous financial position and looking for another bailout, and they turn around telling them where to go.

 

Short termism thinking this will give them long term security. Plot twist, it won't.