Covid Vaccine

[Collymore]

I'm interested to see the results

[howlinmadmurfdoc]

Yes, my wife has chronic asthma and if I bought COVID home to her there’s a high risk she would be seriously ill or worse. To me it’s probably worth any risk.

[leicsmac]

I'm going to go ahead and assume that the folks over at Oxford and AstraZeneca know what they're doing.

If they don't and I got sick or worse as a result of a bodged vaccine of course I'd be hugely pissed off, but then knowing what went wrong as a result of my case (among others, no doubt) would help countless other people down the line when they do get it right as a result of figuring out the cockups.

 

So yes, either way, whether they get it right first time or they can use what they've found out from me to get it right the next time and help other people, I would be in.

[StanSP]

Yes but I'm happy to wait until it's widely available after those in a priority category have had access to it. 

[Strokes]

No, not until it’s been out for a while and any potential risks have all come to the fore.

 

[Trav Le Bleu]

35 minutes ago, Strokes said:

No, not until it’s been out for a while and any potential risks have all come to the fore.

 

So that's a yes then?

 

There's no timeframe in the question.

[Strokes]

9 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

So that's a yes then?

 

There's no timeframe in the question.

It’s not a yes, as there is no definite in my answer. 

[Fox92]

No. Wouldn't trust anything like that, not until at least it's been proved to be okay (as above).

[Jimothy]

By being released its been proven to be ok, thats what the tests are for.

[Guest Kopfkino]

Many of us will be right at the back of the queue so any problems will have come to the fore before we can get it.

 

Will have to wait for the results of the trial but I don't see there being much risk with it. I have faith in the knowledge-holders and processes to assess safety and efficacy.

 

Might cause a few unpleasant side effects for a couple of days but if that's the price to return to normality then its worth it.

[whoareyaaa]

No my body should be able to deal with it.

[RowlattsFox]

I wouldn't seek it out but would have it if it came to it. I've never had the flu jab despite being available to me every year through work because I'm too lazy to go out of my way to book it 

 

 

[StanSP]

I worry that as soon as one (or a few) deaths occur after the vaccine it'll just bring out the anti-vaxxers and oxygen-wasters, being totally counter-productive to the efforts to eradicate it. I really hope the vaccine is successful. 

[Finnegan]

... jesus ****ing christ what's wrong with people 

[Collymore]

So with a sample size of about 50 so far we're  looking at between 70 to 75% of people

would be happy to have it. I'll keep an eye on those numbers mind...

 

Does anyone know what percentage of a population need to get the vaccine for it to work? I'd imagine the more people vaccinated, the quicker it would go away, but surely even if only half of the population got vaccinated would that not halve the R rate?

 

Going forward, as long as that falls below 1 it should sort itself out eventually? 

 

Or is the maths not that simple?

 

 

[Collymore]

7 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

... jesus ****ing christ what's wrong with people 

What's  the weather like in Angrytown this morning? 

[Bellend Sebastian]

Innocent question that I cannot be arsed to Google because it will throw up a lot of bollocks - have vaccinations ever actually caused any real problems?

[Trav Le Bleu]

12 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

... jesus ****ing christ what's wrong with people 

They don't play enough isometric RPGs and thus don't know how bad it could really get.

Edited 25 October 2020 by Trav Le Bleu

[howlinmadmurfdoc]

15 minutes ago, Collymore said:

So with a sample size of about 50 so far we're  looking at between 70 to 75% of people

would be happy to have it. I'll keep an eye on those numbers mind...

 

Does anyone know what percentage of a population need to get the vaccine for it to work? I'd imagine the more people vaccinated, the quicker it would go away, but surely even if only half of the population got vaccinated would that not halve the R rate?

 

Going forward, as long as that falls below 1 it should sort itself out eventually? 

 

Or is the maths not that simple?

 

 

The numbers banded about at the start when herd immunity was mentioned was 60% so I would assume a vaccine would be similar numbers. 

Edited 25 October 2020 by howlinmadmurfdoc

[UniFox21]

13 minutes ago, Bellend Sebastian said:

Innocent question that I cannot be arsed to Google because it will throw up a lot of bollocks - have vaccinations ever actually caused any real problems?

Generally no, any adverse side effects are usually picked up during testing and trial phases. Those that do usually just gain mild symptoms due to the immune response. 

 

There was a "study" by Andrew Wakefield where he chose and picked specific twins to "prove" the MMR vaccine caused autism. Which is where some of the anti-vaxx comes from. That study was retracted by every publishing body and i believe he's been stripped of any ability to practise medicine and his degrees nulled.

[Finnegan]

36 minutes ago, Collymore said:

What's  the weather like in Angrytown this morning? 

 

Raining morons. 

[Bellend Sebastian]

9 minutes ago, UniFox21 said:

Generally no, any adverse side effects are usually picked up during testing and trial phases. Those that do usually just gain mild symptoms due to the immune response. 

 

There was a "study" by Andrew Wakefield where he chose and picked specific twins to "prove" the MMR vaccine caused autism. Which is where some of the anti-vaxx comes from. That study was retracted by every publishing body and i believe he's been stripped of any ability to practise medicine and his degrees nulled.

Oh yes. Coming from a family where the Daily Mail was omnipresent, I know all about his "research".

 

Unfortunately, he still finds it easy to get an audience, in the US especially

[Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot]

I wouldn't take a covid vaccine. 

[UniFox21]

Just now, Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot said:

I wouldn't take a covid vaccine. 

Why? 

[Guest Fktf]

1 hour ago, StanSP said:

I worry that as soon as one (or a few) deaths occur after the vaccine it'll just bring out the anti-vaxxers and oxygen-wasters, being totally counter-productive to the efforts to eradicate it. I really hope the vaccine is successful. 

It seems even the mere (and incorrect) thought of this is enough to put some people off. No vaccine that causes deaths is ever going to released for mass use. What the hell do people think all the testing is for, if it isn't to find out a) is it safe, and b) does it work?